It's a Process Jennifer Sullivan

For the season 2 premiere of It’s a Process, I talk to artist Whitney Hubbs! We talk about the release of her new book Say So, her 2020 solo show Animal, Hole, Selfie, and her performative process. We also talk about influences, working with vulnerability, relationships to the audience and vanity, having fun in the studio, Polanski’s Bitter Moon, sorting and editing, the intimacy of making a book, the transformations of midlife, grappling with mortality, sexuality, and failure, having a trusted support system of friends, thinking about death, new work,  the role of the studio, letting things happen, making autobiographical work, and growing up in LA in the presence of Hollywood.

Zuriel Waters is a painter who lives and works in Brooklyn, NY. We talk about his current solo show Bug City at Left Field Gallery in Los Osos, CA. We also talk about going from all face to all feelers, jazz as a metaphor, figures without a ground, painting as problem solving, giving himself a deadline, escaping narrative, creating a progression, playing the saxophone, sewing paintings, from the practical to the aesthetic, learning to love Murray and Mondrian, holding yourself accountable, painting for mistakes, choosing colors that are inevitable, doodling as a starting point, utopia as an end game, and making things that you can live with.

Susumu Kamijo is a painter who lives and works in Brooklyn, NY. He currently has a solo show on view in Tokyo, Japan at Maki Gallery titled Beyond The Hills, and is also in a group show at Venus over Manhattan in NYC. We discuss his moving to the US at age 16, why talking to writers is better than painters, how poodles entered the work and how they have changed, mixing opposites, the poodle as an entranceway to his world, the intensity of De Kooning, feeling like your work is dorky, the absurdity of choosing to paint poodles, feeling the capacity to encompass the fucked up part of you, performing comedy in the past as a challenge, painting as an expression of the subconscious, letting unexpected things happen, finding joy in the studio, using meditation but trying not to be cringe about it, the earlier years, the importance of friends in his development, having faith that he would be able to make it as an artist, finding inspiration in other peoples death, his mentor relationship with Denzil Hurley, and a story about Susumu’s MFA experience.

Clinton King is a painter living and working in Brooklyn, NY. We talk about his recent solo show Free Radical at Allouche Benias Gallery in Greece, and a residency at Fores Project in London over a bottle of rosé. Other topics include Jungian analysis, alchemy, working with shadow, introversion vs extroversion, abstraction as a universal and a way to communicate the unknowable, having breakthroughs, Clinton’s hypnotic meme video, connection and response, art as a living thing, dreaming of the new work, the vastness of the unconscious, putting obstacles in your own way, aging, death, and chain reactions, the balance of opposites, making an art out of transitions, working with liminal space, live tarot card readings!!, and why Stanley Kubrick’s 2001 is the best movie of all time.

Cheryl Donegan is an artist who lives and works in NYC. We talk about work/life balance, taking it to the next level, the pain of transitions, the relationship between painting and video, the ongoing influence of indirect methods of childhood picture making, mediated and temporary, finding your native experiences and attractions, asking questions about painting through video, Alice Neel and morbidity, how does painting let the digital into it’s body, intervening on the ready made, Home Depot materials, the desire for control vs letting go, being an artist’s artist, indulging in formative memories, starting from scratch and moving towards beauty, what people do when they get over themselves, art and aging, Yoko Ono, Gena Rowlands, being too much, Raster Stars, Bresson’s Mouchette as the original punk, little book of martyrs, tracksuits, junkspace and irrational geometry, colorforms, step by step breakdown of her recent painting process, Cezanne and Zola, how painting seduces the digital, artists books as a way of thinking through motifs, and learning to paint with emotions.

Amanda Friedman is an artist living in Brooklyn, NY. We met for the first in person interview at her studio and talked about current and recent work, and her solo show Everyday Drawings and Pyramids at Grifter. We also talk about her studio check in forms, “tending the garden”, everyday drawings, the slippage of mark making, going towards color and beauty, making plays (which are also paintings), Helen Rides and beat poet Helen Adams, the last live performance of her play, witchy women and desire, singing, make your own art world as a way to avoid cynicism, working for the Rosemary Mayer estate, cult figures and counter culture, how different kinds of work and found objects leads into other work, light castles and bones, transformation, ceramics, glove paintings, making things that hold themselves, art as a mirror, figuring out what the art is, Paul Thek, Andrei Rublev, using rules as an anchor point, Leonora Carrington, and paintings as keepers of secrets.