64 episodes

A conversation between two ex-evangelicals (Jeff Elkins and Leigh Erdman) about life after the evangelical church. Together, they examine artifacts from their evangelical past (including books, movies, music, and things they did as pastors) and talk about how they are and have moved forward with the goal of finding hope, peace, and joy in life after the evangelical church.

Just Came For The Tacos Jeff Elkins and Leigh Erdman

    • Religion & Spirituality
    • 4.5 • 13 Ratings

A conversation between two ex-evangelicals (Jeff Elkins and Leigh Erdman) about life after the evangelical church. Together, they examine artifacts from their evangelical past (including books, movies, music, and things they did as pastors) and talk about how they are and have moved forward with the goal of finding hope, peace, and joy in life after the evangelical church.

    Capitalism, the Church, and Kara Swisher's Burn Book

    Capitalism, the Church, and Kara Swisher's Burn Book

    A discussion about the Kara Swisher's new memoir Burn Book inspires a deep conversation between Jeff and his friend Cory about Capitalism and the American Church. 

    • 57 min
    What's the Deal With...?

    What's the Deal With...?

    In this episode, Jeff and Leigh cover four semi-connected topics that have been on Jeff's mind.
    Teenagers using tech and the "Anxious Generation" Why do sex scandals keep happening in the church?  How narcissism ties to the idea of "mission" and "calling" The good things that come out of the "church" and why we can't just have those.   

    • 1 hr 1 min
    Deconstruction Stories: Jen, Darcy, and Rachelle

    Deconstruction Stories: Jen, Darcy, and Rachelle

    In this episode, Leigh sits down with friends from childhood to discuss how they each deconstructed their evangelical upbringing in different ways. 

    • 1 hr 18 min
    The Book of Clarence and Other Jesus Movies

    The Book of Clarence and Other Jesus Movies

    In this episode, Jeff and Leigh reflect on movies about Jesus and how those movies impacted them. They take a deep dive into the Book of Clarence and ask the question, "Why do evangelicals obsess over some things and reject others?" 

    • 45 min
    Finding Life in through Poetry with Edward Doyle-Gillespie

    Finding Life in through Poetry with Edward Doyle-Gillespie

    Warning: this episode contains conversation about suicide and violence. If you are thinking about hurting yourself, please call 988 now. Help is available. You can speak with someone today.
    In this episode, poet-teacher-police officer Edward Doyle-Gillespie teaches Jeff about poetry. Jeff and Ed talk about why Ed was drawn to poetry, how to experience poetry, and what is behind the words. 
     

    • 52 min
    Wild at Heart: Looking at the Book with Fresh Eyes

    Wild at Heart: Looking at the Book with Fresh Eyes

    In this episode, Jeff and Leigh take a deep dive into the book Wild at Heart by John Eldridge. They review it's core arguments, discuss it's impact on both of them in the past, and reflect on how their understanding of it has evolved. 

    • 1 hr 12 min

Customer Reviews

4.5 out of 5
13 Ratings

13 Ratings

JJJBUGJUNE ,

relatable, honest & thoughtful conversations!

I really enjoy your podcast! I think the topics you discuss are so insightful as you think through the issues together. As I work through my own deconstruction, listening has felt like meeting for coffee with friends on the same wavelength as me. I love your knowledge & curiosity as well as your authenticity & gentle spirit. Thank you!

jjdeeds ,

Conversations that need to happen.

I’m enjoying listening to Jeff and Leigh’s conversations about the Evangelical Church and how it’s strayed away from Jesus.

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