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Join VeggieTales and What's in the Bible? creator Phil Vischer and co-host Skye Jethani (author, speaker, pastor) for a fast-paced and often funny conversation about pop culture, media, theology, and the fun, fun, fun of living a thoughtful Christian life in an increasingly post-Christian culture.

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Join VeggieTales and What's in the Bible? creator Phil Vischer and co-host Skye Jethani (author, speaker, pastor) for a fast-paced and often funny conversation about pop culture, media, theology, and the fun, fun, fun of living a thoughtful Christian life in an increasingly post-Christian culture.

    Episode 493: Fundy Fashion & Native American Christianity with Matthew Milliner

    Episode 493: Fundy Fashion & Native American Christianity with Matthew Milliner

    A new study finds evangelicals see most thing in society in categories of good and evil while nonbelievers see more nuance. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss the implications. Bob Jones University has a fashion design department. What could possibly go wrong? Pretty much everything when a student discovered his androgynous Jesus coat was a fundamentalist fashion faux pas. Then, art historian Matthew Milliner talks about his new book “The Everlasting People: G.K. Chesterton and the First Nations.” Milliner explains the arrogance and injustice of progressivism, and the surprising story of Christianity among indigenous North Americans that rarely gets told. Plus, 100 monkeys on a truck and drunks on a plane.
    News Segment
    0:00 - Intro
    3:29 - Animal News
    https://apnews.com/article/oddities-pennsylvania-monkeys-animals-52100c02527985f7dde4674724bb3332
    8:16 - News of the Butt
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/22/us/covid-flight-passenger-violent.html
    16:34 - Fundamentalist fashion faux pas
    https://baptistnews.com/article/how-a-students-fashion-design-project-upset-the-created-order-at-bob-jones-university/#.Ye7fBS1h1B0
    39:50 - Can society be split into good and evil?
    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/12/21/christians-religiously-unaffiliated-differ-on-whether-most-things-in-society-can-be-divided-into-good-evil/https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/03/the-yuck-factor/580465/
    Sponsor
    51:40 - This episode is sponsored by Abide: http://abide.co/holypost
    Interview with Matthew Milliner
    “The Everlasting People: G.K. Chesterton and the First Nations” - https://amzn.to/3tY6PYx
    52:44 - Interview Start/Intro
    54:45 - Why this book?
    1:01:27 - Chesterton’s worldview
    1:08:00 - Progressivism then and now
    1:15:08 - Christianity in native cultures
    1:22:18 - Indigenous symbols
    1:30:29 - EndOther resources mentioned:
    “Orthodoxy” by G.K. Chesterton - https://amzn.to/3G1TYGY“Dream Catchers” by Philip Jenkins - https://amzn.to/3FZJJDm
    “One Church, Many Tribes” by Richard Twiss - https://amzn.to/3AuRksc
    “Mixed Blessings” edited by Tolly Bradford & Chelsea Horton - https://amzn.to/35oZgjq
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    • 1 hr 31 min
    Episode 492: After School Satan Clubs, MLK Day, & Disturbing Bible Stories with Esau McCaulley & David T. Lamb

    Episode 492: After School Satan Clubs, MLK Day, & Disturbing Bible Stories with Esau McCaulley & David T. Lamb

    To commemorate MLK Day, Phil asks Esau McCaulley if we’re making progress on race or if we’ve gone backwards in the last few years. His answer might surprise you. Skye then interviews Old Testament professor, David T. Lamb, about the updated version of his book, “God Behaving Badly: Is the God of the Old Testament Angry, Sexist and Racist?” Lamb argues that if read correctly, we’d discover the Old Testament is surprisingly progressive rather than barbaric. Also this week, controversy erupts as after school Satan clubs sponsored by The Satanic Temple pop up in elementary schools with Good News clubs. And, a country music star withdraws his support from a Christian school that teaches racism is a reality. Plus, scientists discover sea slugs have an interesting party trick.
     
    News Segment
    0:00 - Start
    2:41 - News of the Butt
    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/this-sea-slug-can-chop-off-its-head-and-grow-an-entire-new-body-twice1/

    14:25 - After School Satan Club
    https://www.ourquadcities.com/news/local-news/debate-continues-over-satanic-club-set-to-meet-thursday-at-qc-elementary-school/

    22:19 - John Rich angry about school materials discussing racism
    https://www.nashvillescene.com/news/pithinthewind/john-rich-is-angry-about-lipscomb-academys-dean-of-intercultural-development/article_d0e7797a-9a3c-5f86-8e8c-fba6dba38951.html
    Interview with Esau McCaulley
    Website: https://esaumccaulley.com
    “Reading While Black: African American Biblical Interpretation as an Exercise in Hope” - https://amzn.to/3FA3H7m

    35:05 - Interview Start
    36:14 - Reflecting on the last 18 months
    41:51 - Where the white evangelical church is now
    51:04 - Being part of the solution

    Sponsor
    1:00:16 - Faithful Counseling
    Thanks to Faithful Counseling for sponsoring this episode: faithfulcounseling.com/holypost

    Announcement
    1:01:29 - Livestream with Josh Packard: https://www.patreon.com/holypost

    Interview with David T. Lamb
    Website: https://davidtlamb.com/
    “God Behaving Badly: Is the God of the Old Testament Angry, Sexist and Racist?” (Expanded Edition) - https://amzn.to/3GH5s49

    1:02:52 - Intro/Interview start
    1:04:37 - Understanding the Old Testament as progressive
    1:15:49 - The issue of collective justice
    BONUS INTERVIEW (Polygamy in the Old Testament): https://www.patreon.com/posts/61346792/

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    • 1 hr 25 min
    Episode 491: American Democracy & American Inerrancy with Michael F. Bird

    Episode 491: American Democracy & American Inerrancy with Michael F. Bird

    Last week, the country commemorated the one-year anniversary of the January 6th attack on the Capitol. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn examine what’s changed, and what hasn’t, since the attack and what impact it’s had on both Christians and our culture. They also respond to Samuel Perry’s article about the way Christian Nationalism threatens democracy. Then, Skye talks to Australian theologian Michael Bird about the doctrine of biblical inerrancy. While Christians throughout the world affirm the Bible’s inerrancy, Bird says American Evangelicals uniquely see the doctrine as “the one ring to rule them all.” He documents many cases where inerrancy isn’t used to defend the Bible, but a particular interpretation of the Bible. Also this week—goldfish chauffeurs and the Japanese invent a finger-nibbling robot to “free all humanity.”
    News Segment
    0:00 - Intro
    3:05 - Scientists teach goldfish how to drive
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2022/01/07/goldfish-drive/9131026002/
    9:13 - Finger-nibbling robots
    https://www.ubergizmo.com/2022/01/yakai-engineering-amagami-ham-ham/
    12:48 - Anniversary of January 6th Capitol attacks
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/06/opinion/jan-6-christian-nationalism.html
    https://religionnews.com/2022/01/05/violence-isnt-the-only-way-christian-nationalism-endangers-democracy/
    Interview with Michael F. Bird
    “Saving Inerrancy from the Americans?” article - https://michaelfbird.substack.com/p/saving-inerrancy-from-the-americans
    “Seven Things I Wish People Knew About the Bible” book - https://amzn.to/33pYLV6
    47:40 - Intro/Interview Start
    50:44 - Inerrancy vs. infallibility
    57:21 - American evangelicalism and inerrancy
    1:07:46 - Global church and inerrancy
    1:11:26 - Authorities of scripture, interpretation, and historic church doctrine
    1:20:42 - Perspectives from the global church on other issues
    1:27:21 - Interview End
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    • 1 hr 27 min
    Episode 490: Lessons from the Global Church with Christine Caine

    Episode 490: Lessons from the Global Church with Christine Caine

    Phil experienced a Twitter typhoon last week when he suggested “love your country” is not a Biblical command. The Holy Post crew unpacks the reactions and asks what separates godly and ungodly patriotism. Then, Skye talks to Christine Caine, founder of The A21 Campaign, about her experience of American evangelicalism as an Australian Pentecostal. With decades of experience in ministry around the world, and working against human trafficking in 14 countries, Caine says she was shocked by what she found in the American church, and advocates for more listening and cooperation with Christians in other traditions and cultures. Also this week, a Japanese professor invents a TV you can taste, and a town in the UK is terrorized by a bloodthirsty squirrel.
    News Segment:
    0:00 - Intro and updates
    4:29 - Squirrel rampage
    https://nypost.com/2021/12/29/squirrel-from-hell-injures-18-during-48-hour-biting-spree/
    8:36 - Lickable TV
    https://www.reuters.com/technology/lick-it-up-japan-professor-creates-tele-taste-tv-screen-2021-12-23/
    15:16 - ERLC clarification
    17:38 - Critiquing our own team and purpose of the Holy Post
    27:59 - Phil’s Twitter discussions on love of country
    46:10 Sponsors

    Thanks to the sponsors of this week’s episode:

    Faithful Counseling: faithfulcounseling.com/holypost

    Abide: abide.co/holypost
    Interview with Christine Caine:
    A21 organization: https://www.a21.org48:36 - Interview Start
    49:49 - Experience in Pentecostal church
    55:28 - Church celebrity culture
    1:05:02 - Healthy skepticism
    1:09:12 - Cross-tradition interaction & the global church
    1:25:17 - Ending

    • 1 hr 25 min
    French Friday: Jeremiads & Drones

    French Friday: Jeremiads & Drones

    In a recent editorial, Kevin DeYoung took aim at Christian commentators, including David French, for criticizing the social and political hypocrisies within white evangelicalism. DeYoung says these necessary corrections are better left to pastors rather than “professional writers, academics, and full-time commentators.” David and Skye respond to DeYoung’s editorial by explaining the good, and bad, reasons so few pastors are speaking prophetically in America today. Then, they turn their attention to the remarkable NY Times report about the U.S. military underreporting civilian casualties from drone attacks in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria. French explains why legally the terrorists, not the U.S. military, carry responsibility for these deaths, which leads to a wider discussion about the ethics of war in general, the way drones may change Americans’ view of war in the future, and whether the invasion of Iraq was justifiable to begin with.
    0:00 - Intro
    2:40 - Kevin DeYoung editorial on Christian commentators https://wng.org/opinions/deyoung-on-white-evangelicalism-1639659990
    29:54 - Drone attacks, civilian casualties, and ethics of war https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/12/18/us/airstrikes-pentagon-records-civilian-deaths.html

    • 1 hr 6 min
    Episode 489: The Evangelical Empire Strikes Back & Barna Briefs with David Kinnaman

    Episode 489: The Evangelical Empire Strikes Back & Barna Briefs with David Kinnaman

    After the mess that was 2020, we had such high hopes for 2021. Were our expectations met? Phil and Skye look back on the year when the evangelical empire dug in its heels. Those opposed to #MeToo and Black Lives Matter responded by labeling empathy a sin. Voices advocating for women and people of color within the SBC left the denomination. The Salvation Army reversed course on racial sensitivity, and female scholars faced a backlash for exposing Christian nationalism and patriarchy. Will 2022 be any different, or will the sorting of the entire culture into Red and Blue tribes continue? And how wide will the rift between classical and cultural evangelicals get?
    Then, the president of Barna Group, David Kinnaman, joins Skye to launch a new reoccurring segment—Barna Briefs. Kinnaman reveals brand new data about the state of the church and how the pandemic has revealed wide discontent among churchgoers with their congregations. He also says popular church structures are clearly insufficient for forming mature disciples and new church models are desperately needed. Kinnaman also reveals an alarming number of pastors are ready to leave ministry. Is there a silver lining to all of the troubling data?
    News Segment:
    0:00 - Intro
    4:34 - Looking back and looking ahead
    https://www.holypost.com/post/438-the-year-that-unveiled-evangelicalism-with-john-fea
    9:10 - Stories from 2021: The “sin of empathy” conversation
    Holy Post episode 472 - https://youtu.be/D_NHhmdss5w?t=2000

    12:28 - Was 2021 “The Empire Strikes Back”?
    15:47 - Russell Moore and the ERLC
    Painting Phil references - https://www.metrotimes.com/the-scene/archives/2021/12/12/detroit-artist-jonathan-harris-strikes-a-nerve-around-the-world-with-critical-race-theory-painting26:02 - Salvation Army and “wokeness”
    32:18 - Books from this year
    “Jesus and John Wayne” by Kristin Kobes Du Mez - https://amzn.to/3mHdVMx
    “The Making of Biblical Womanhood” by Beth Allison Barr - https://amzn.to/3ECopmL
    42:01 - The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill podcast
    https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/podcasts/rise-and-fall-of-mars-hill/
    “Church Refugees” by Josh Packard - https://amzn.to/3pzky5m
    “A Church Called Tov ” by Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer - https://amzn.to/3z4DJr7
    53:06 - Looking toward 2022
    Movie Phil references - “Don’t Look Up” (2021)
    Barna Brief with David Kinnaman:

    Free download for Holy Post listeners: https://www.barna.com/holypost/
    1:02:37 - Interview Start
    1:04:12 - Project intro: State of the Church
    https://www.barna.com/stateofthechurch/
    1:05:31 - Digital church and effects of the pandemic
    1:17:06 - Growing crisis among pastors
    1:22:53 - Mental and emotional impact of pandemic
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    • 1 hr 28 min

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2.7K Ratings

Al32flav ,

A holy refresher with an intelligent and hopeful twist.

You tackle difficult topics with scripture intelligence and thoughtfulness. I appreciate it so much. If I could find a church like this that would be extremely helpful. A place where we can discuss the tension of this life and sometimes disagree, all while put our pride to the side long enough to meet in the middle. Jesus is where you are and I appreciate it.

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Great work!

This podcast is incredible. Keep it up!

AmericanInSpain ,

Much appreciated!

I’ve listened since the first episode! In recent months I’ve loved having Skye and Phil joined by a few different people instead of only Christian.

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