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It’s one thing to fight against a heresy, but what about the people caught in its grasp? Caleb Campbell’s new book, “Disarming Leviathan,” argues Christian Nationalism is an idolatrous, anti-Christian movement, but that we ought to take a gentle, loving, and missional posture toward our friends and neighbors following it. Also this week, Ronald Reagan often said America was a shinning “city upon a hill.” Derwin Gray joins Skye and Kaitlyn to discuss the phrase, its original context in the Sermon on the Mount, and how Puritan colonists used it very differently than modern politicians. Plus, what’s behind all of the hot A.I. images of Jesus?
 
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0:00 - Intro
 
1:18 - Show Starts
 
3:18 - Theme Song
 
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5:52 - Responding to Feedback on Debate Coverage
 
12:26 - Shining City on a Hill
 
19:42 - Guiding People Away from Idolatry
 
30:36 - Perfect Love Casts Out Fear
 
34:41 - Hot A.I. Jesus
 
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51:49 - Interview
 
53:57 - Why did Campbell write about Christian Nationalism?
 
1:15:15 - Practical Advice
 
1:23:53 - What About Flipping Tables?
 
1:33:14 - End Credits
 
Links Mentioned in the News Segment:
Is America a City on a Hill or a Nation on the Precipice?
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/02/opinion/american-exceptionalism-reagan-biden-trump.html
 
Hot AI Jesus is Huge on Facebook
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2024/06/hot-jesus-ai/678814/
 
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Disarming Leviathan: Loving Your Christian Nationalist Neighbor by Caleb Campbell: https://www.ivpress.com/disarming-leviathan
 
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In this special episode, Kaitlyn and Skye are joined by the co-hosts of the Church Politics podcast, Justin Giboney and Chris Butler, to discuss the fallout from last week’s presidential debate. Will President Biden drop out? What does the Supreme Court’s ruling about presidential immunity mean for a possible second Trump term? And why have both political parties nominated candidates who are demonstrably incapable of fulfilling the presidential oath of office? It’s a wide-ranging conversation about the broken state of American politics and where Christians can find hope.



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1:08 - Intro
 
2:26 - Theme Song
 
2:47 - Show starts
 
4:35 - Recapping the Presidential Debate
 
10:00 - Fallout from Biden’s Debate Performance
 
22:00 - Our Broken Political System
 
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42:41 - Predictions for the rest of the election season
 
1:05:10 - Trump Immunity Case Ruling
 
1:19:00 - End Credits
 
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As the Supreme Court releases a slate of new rulings the justices appear to be sending a message: "Congress, do your job!" David French explains to Skye Jethani why congressional leaders are increasingly reluctant to take votes or pass laws, how this is making the presidency dangerously powerful, and why the courts are saying it's unconstitutional and harmful to democracy. Then, David tells why his former denomination canceled him—with some members even calling him a "heretic"—despite his full agreement with all of their doctrine and positions. Why are so many churches being driven by fear and non-essential beliefs?
 
0:00 - Theme Song
 
0:17 - Episode Starts
 
1:17 - Garland V. Cargill
 
5:34 - Trump Changing Statutes
 
9:20 - Obama Changing Statutes
 
13:50 - Congress Refusing to Pass Laws
 
20:33 - Why Congress Doesn’t Want to Pass Laws
 
29:51 - How Low-Information Voters Feed Into This Ecosystem
 
32:06 - The Right Thing to Do vs Appeasing the Mobs
 
42:05 - When Every Issue is Considered a Fundamental
 
49:16 - When Every Issue is a Foreground Decision
 
58:16 - What a Partisan Fears
 
1:01:20 - Capitulation is Not Peace, the Center Does Not Hold
 
1:07:23 - End Credits
 
Other resources:
 
Advisory Opinions on Recent Supreme Court Decisions: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/living-anachronism/id1490993194?i=1000659362706
 
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Louisiana has passed a law requiring the Ten Commandments be posted in every public school classroom. Supporters say it’s about respecting history, law, and the country’s religious heritage. Critics argue it’s completely unconstitutional. What’s really behind the new law? John Dickson says secularism in Australia is ten years ahead of the U.S., and there are valuable lessons the American church can learn from his country about how to thrive in a post-Christian society. Also this week—after two more megachurch pastor scandals we have to ask what’s wrong with our ministry culture. And whales display a dirty new defense against predators.
 
0.00- Intro
 
1:41- Show Starts
 
2:34 - Theme Song
 
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5:08 - News of the Butt
 
10:30 - Tony Evans and Robert Morris Step Down from Senior Pastor Roles
 
25:25 - 10 Commandments Must Be Displayed in Louisiana Classrooms
 
46:50 - Lisa Vischer Update
 
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54:35 - Interview
 
1:31:23 - End Credits
 
Links Mentioned in the News Segment:
 
Sperm Whale Poop Cloud
https://www.discoverwildlife.com/animal-facts/marine-animals/sperm-whales-defensive-defecation-on-orcas
Louisiana’s Ten Commandments Mandate
https://religionnews.com/2024/06/21/louisiana-mandates-the-ten-commandments/?utm_medium=social
David French on the Ten Commandments
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/18/opinion/ten-commandments-classroom-louisiana.html
 
Other resources:
The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory: American Evangelicals in an Age of Extremism by Tim Alberta: https://a.co/d/0cE3A6CW
 
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Remember when churches were seeker-sensitive? The goal was to grow by welcoming newcomers, skeptics, and non-believers. But now it seems some evangelical churches and denominations are more worried about ideological purity than outreach. Sociologist, political scientists, and pastor Ryan Burge is back to talk about the self-defeating trend toward subtraction rather than addition in the church. Also this week, the Southern Baptists decide not to ban all women pastors…yet. Megan Basham claims evangelical leaders aren’t selling out to conservative constituents, but to gain the approval of liberal elites. Death cafes open in L.A., and the Swiss are making tiny computers from brain cells. What could possibly go wrong?
 
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1:18 - Show Starts
 
3:14 - Theme Song
 
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5:58 - Democracy Betrays News of the Butt
 
6:38 - What Could Possibly Go Wrong with Swiss Brain-Computers
 
13:02 - SBC Law Amendment Denied Ratification
 
20:33 - Baptist Church Conservative Resurgence
 
25:03 - Being a Cultural War Symbol Rather Than a Person
 
30:20 - Shepherds for Sale and How Everyone Has Economic Benefit
 
36:37 - The Temptation to Look Down on Others
 
41:55 - Modern Death Cafes in Los Angeles 
 
44:28 - Sleeping in a Room with a Casket
 
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52:40 - Interview
 
59:56 - American Behavior Changing Faster Than Their Beliefs
 
1:05:43 - The Disappearance of The Christian Left
 
1:09:22 - Strict Churches vs Moderate Churches
 
1:22:10 - The Nicene Creed, Doctrine, and Dogma
 
1:31:53 - End Credits
 
Links Mentioned in the News Segment:
 
Swiss Startup Connects 16 Human Mini-Brains to Create Low Energy ‘Biocomputer’:
https://www.sciencealert.com/swiss-startup-connects-16-human-mini-brains-to-create-low-energy-biocomputer
 
SBC Law Amendment Vote:
https://www.newyorker.com/news/on-religion/an-unexpected-turn-in-the-evangelical-culture-wars
 
Modern Death Cafes in LA:
https://www.latimes.com/lifestyle/story/2024-06-12/death-cafes-los-angeles-grieving-discussion-group
 
Other resources:
 
Cafeteria Catholicism: https://www.graphsaboutreligion.com/p/cafeteria-catholicism
Americans Dropping Out of Everything:
https://www.graphsaboutreligion.com/p/dropping-out-of-everything
Most Americans are Still Christians:
https://www.graphsaboutreligion.com/p/most-americans-are-still-christians
 
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After working for the Department of Homeland Security, and more than twenty years as a counterterrorism expert, Elizabeth Neumann says the greatest threat to the U.S. is no longer international Islamic terrorism but domestic Christian extremists. She discusses her new book, “Kingdom of Rage,” with Skye and how conspiracy theories and violent political ideologies have infiltrated American evangelicalism. Also this week, the Southern Baptists debate which is the greater threat to the faith—the Nicene Creed or female pastors. And new data says drinking and smoking has plummeted among teenagers. Should we thank churches or smartphones?
 
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0:00 - Intro
 
1:22 - Show Starts
 
4:15 - Theme Song
 
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6:49 - Why Phil Was Expelled from Bible School (It’s Less Scandalous Than You Think!)
 
9:42 - The Annual SBC Meeting and Women Preaching, the Law Amendment
 
13:48 - Conservative SBC and Why Churches Split 
 
19:26 - Motivations Behind Doctrine Changes matter
 
31:38 - Drinking, Smoking, and Chewing Tobacco Uncommon Amongst Gen Z
 
37:18 - Drinking’s Down, Depression’s Up
 
42:07 - The Church Community Stands Out in an Age of Loneliness
 
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48:51 - Interview
 
54:04 - From Focusing on International Threats to Domestic Threats
 
58:13 - The Mainstreaming of Replacement Theory
 
1:04:54 - How Neumann Avoided Radicalization
 
1:09:40 - The Needs That Make People Susceptible to Radicalization
 
1:18:18 - The Scale That Makes Domestic Radicalization a Huge Threat
 
1:25:04 - End Credits
 
Links Mentioned in the News Segment:
 
The SBC’s Proposed Law Amendment
https://religionnews.com/2024/06/07/southern-baptists-mull-second-vote-to-amend-constitution-to-exclude-women-pastors/
 
Does Going to Church Keep High Schoolers from Drinking and Smoking?
https://www.graphsaboutreligion.com/p/does-going-to-church-keep-high-schools?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1561197&post_id=144063583&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=6smb2&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email
 
Other resources:
Kingdom of Rage: The Rise of Christian Extremism and the Path Back to Peace: https://a.co/d/64NM0N6
 
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