Justin Nault + Abel James | The Illusion of Authority: Uncovering The Truth About Seed Oils, Self-Sovereignty + Soul Expression

Wellness + Wisdom | Episode 696

How did we as a society buy into the illusion of authority?

Justin Nault + Abel James join Josh Trent on the Wellness + Wisdom Podcast, episode 696, to expose how health propaganda, corporate interests, and the illusion of authority have fueled a crisis driven by processed foods and seed oils disguised as nutrition, and how their journeys of personal growth led to finding purpose, radical authenticity, and the power of self-expression.

"The #1 reason for the health care epidemic that we have is the illusion of authority. There have been approximately 50,000 studies in the last 2 to 5 years funded by the National Institutes of Health that are all in favor of ultra-processed foods." - Justin Nault

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In This Episode, Justin Nault + Abel James Uncover: [01:30] The Reality of Reality Shows

• Justin Nault
• Abel James
• My Diet Is Better Than Yours (2016)
• Abel's experience being on a reality TV show.
• Big Time (2012)
• Why Justin participated in a musician reality show.
• How the producers of reality shows manipulate the participants.

[07:15] Creative Expression

• What motivated Abel to become a musician as a child.
• How he overcame his shyness to share his joy with others.
• Why he was recording 8 podcasts per day.
• Melissa Hartwig Urban

[13:05] Becoming a Professional Performer

• Why Justin wanted to make people laugh as a child.
• How he realized that art was a fast track for love.
• Why he didn't love music the same way other musicians do.
• How he was getting external validation from being a performer.
• Why he left the music industry.

[20:00] The Lifestyle of a Rockstar

• Tim McGraw
• How Abel inspired Tim McGraw's band members to live a healthier lifestyle.
• Why it's important for musicians to put meaning into their songs.
• The opposite of addiction is connection.

[25:30] The Fear of Losing Love

• Why expression is the quickest path to health.
• How we're conditioned to not express ourselves.
• Why we have the desire to judge everything.
• If we lose love as children, we can't survive.
• How parents don't have the capacity to hold their children's negative emotions.

[30:50] Intuition VS Instinct

• Why intuition is like a muscle.
• How Justin intuitively knew his partner was the woman he was going to marry.
• Why our vulnerability helps others open up.
• How radical authenticity and self-expression are the medicine.

[35:30] Cultivating a Loving Relationship

• How Abel met his wife through eHarmony.
• Why they took the time to get to know each other before meeting in person.
• How he saw light around his wife the first time he met her.
• Why she didn't want to continue dating Abel after a few days.
• How working together as a team builds intimacy.
• We're always becoming a new version of ourselves.

[42:25] What Is The Game You Play?

• Why Josh didn't have a peaceful home base growing up.
• What led Justin to only date women casually when he was younger.
• Why romantic relationships are a process of parenting.
• Scary Close by Donald Miller
• How he feared intimacy and didn't allow himself to get vulnerable with women.
• Don Howard Lawler
• Justin's first experience with plant medicine in Peru.
• How somatic work helped him release stuck emotions.

[51:45] The Career Pursuit

• 692 Paul Chek | Spirit Gym: How To Find The Truth of Your Soul + Live Your Dream
• Why Abel pursued an intellectual path to secure his future.
• How corporate work allowed him to play music.
• Why performing almost every day for multiple years made Abel burn out.
• How he was working on a project helping children pursue higher education.
• Why the government didn't want them to improve the educational system.

[59:40] The Journey to Health

• How good food helps students perform better.
• Why Abel decided to start a blog and a podcast about health.
• How Abel got himself sick by following his doctor's advice.
• Why losing everything in the fire and being sick made him turn his life around.

[01:07:15] Food Is A Powerful Medicine

• 1 out of 3 children in the U.S. will be obese.
• How To Eat, Move And Be Healthy! by Paul Chek
• How Justin still struggles with body dysmorphia.
• Why poor nutrition was preventing him from getting truly fit.
• The Perfect Human Diet (2012)
• How the paleo diet helped Justin lose weight.
• Why the ketogenic diet can stop seizures.
• Dr David Perlmutter: Grain Brain, Eating Fat Makes You Smart, and Why (Brain) Size Matters

[01:16:15] Understanding Health + Disease

• How Justin started his first company.
• Robb Wolf
• Why Justin studied the human body to understand why people get sick.
• How people accused Justin of spreading misinformation.

[01:21:10] The Health Propaganda

• 071 Food Freedom Forever With Melissa Hartwig
• Why Whole30 started to add seed oils to their prepared meals.
• How the illusion of authority damages our health.
• Why science in the U.S. is a marketing funnel and a propaganda machine.
• How the medical school system is not any different from Herbalife.
• The problem with Whole30 food.

[01:29:45] The Dangers of Consuming Seed Oils

• How prioritizing scale over values takes a business away from its mission.
• Why seed oils can be used as car fuel.
• Seed oils are an industrial product that doesn't belong in the kitchen.
• Why some people don't feel like they've contributed enough to the world.
• How money is not worth sacrificing other people's well-being.

[01:35:25] Can You Really Believe Science?

• 694 Shawn Wells | Your Ultimate Guide To Healing Mental + Physical Health
• Why scientists should be open to changing their mind.
• How Melissa Urban has made science the God.
• We can cause harm even though we think we're helping.
• Dr. Jack Kruse and Andrew Huberman, Ph.D (Part 1)
• How the scientific environment differs from the natural environment.
• Why most nutrition studies have been done in the 2000s.
• How seed oils decrease immune function.
• Why science for many people is an ego play to sound like an authority.

[01:45:35] Is It Ever Okay to Eat Seed Oil Products?

• How Robb Wolf supported the use of seed oils.
• Why we need to tell each other the truth.
• How we make exceptions in healthy eating.
• Why Josh doesn't give his children food that contains seed oils.
• How Whole30 is taking advantage of people being lazy.

[01:53:05] Can Authorities Be Trusted?

• Max Lugavere
• How the healthy eating movement has become political.
• Why people get corrupted when they want more influence and authority.
• How paleo products became extremely popular during the pandemic.
• Why people can be unaware of their unconscious manipulative behaviors.
• Authorities don't always hold the truth.

[02:01:00] Money Is Not The Driving Force

• Why Justin turned down a lot of money to not sacrifice the quality of his products.
• How big companies need influencers to get access to people.
• Why Abel always stayed true to the message he's been sharing about health.
• How the Fat Burning Man's Insta