Laying cobblestones for effective agency thought leadership with Susan Baier

It’s no secret that new business for agencies was brutal in 2023. And for some in 2024, it’s been equally difficult. So, for 2025, we want to challenge you to get unstuck from those difficult sales cycles and lay the groundwork for some new energy as we come to the end of this year.

This week, Susan Baier joined me again to help us look at the agency sales cycle a little differently. Next year, it’s all going to be about using research studies to build your thought leadership portfolio, create cobblestone content, and attract right-fit clients with little to no prospecting on your end.

If you haven’t done research studies before, it’s time to start. Get some data, find your unique perspective, and share it openly and with authority. In 2025, it’s going to be all about teaching and educating your audience to build trust so that by the time they pick up the phone to call you, they’ve already bought into your expertise.

If you’re looking to get out of the funk of 2 slow sales years, you’ll want to stop what you’re doing right now so you can take some notes on this episode.

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What You Will Learn in This Episode:

• How does doing research make agency employees and the agency better?
• Why agencies need to constantly be adapting and learning new things
• Using new knowledge and research to make your team smarter
• How agencies can use their research to innovate and be better
• The surprising effects of new research and thought leadership on client budgets
• Using research to shorten the sales cycle, build trust, and promote thought leadership
• 3 big things that happen when agencies conduct their own research
• Innovative and creative ways to present new research to clients and prospects
• It’s not just about data — it’s about your unique perspective on the data
• Building cobblestone content out of larger research studies