Everyone has a story. But not everyone has a voice. 'Like It Is' addresses the issues in sports and the workplace that have been ignored for far too long and tells them the way they should be told – with honesty, sincerity and a purpose.
Discrimination; bullying; harassment on social media; the mental health crisis taking place in the world today... these are the issues we'll be talking about on each and every episode.
I hope you'll join us as we dive into these important topics that need to be discussed, not ignored.
Transgender Golfer Hailey Davidson Shares Her Story
Even though most people don't know a transgender person, everyone seems to have an opinion... and more often than not, it isn't positive. While the world debates transgender transitioning and transgender athletes, we wanted to hear from someone who's been through it.
Hailey Davidson transitioned seven years ago and explains what life is like for her on and off the course as she continues to chase her dream as a professional golfer, despite the many obstacles. She opens up about discovering her transgender identity, how her family and friends reacted, dealing with the criticism on social media, mental health and the challenges of being a transgender athlete.
:57 - When she first started questioning her gender identity.
1:50 - How she discussed her thought/feelings with family and friends, being so young.
3:20 - It was a confusing time and the mixed emotions of going through puberty.
4:38 - Who was first person she talked to about it?
6:25 - She details the first discussion about it with her parents.
8:17 - After going back-and-forth and questioning her gender identity for years, Hailey finally came to terms with it and made some difficult decisions.
13:51 - The conversation shifts to golf. What was her swing speed before she transitioned?
14:41 - She was a long hitter before transitioning... comparisons.
15:16 - What was her swing speed one year after transitioning?
17:02 - Seven years into transitioning: What's her swing speed now?
18:52 - Where's the advantage? Comparisons to LPGA players in terms of length.
19:26 - Has she faced challenges from people not wanting her to complete? Hormone and blood work?
23:11 - The impact on all transgender athletes after the Lia Thomas (Penn swimmer) story came out.
25:49 - How does she deal with the hatred and horrible things that people say to her and about other transgender people on social media?
28:56 - What should we do when posting this episode: Should we turn off comments on social media?
30:42 - What's next? How do we make this fair for both transgender athletes and female (at birth) athletes?
34:26 - How all of this has affected her mental health...
Terry Strada: National Chair - "9/11 Families United" talks Saudi & LIV Golf
Terry Strada, who lost her husband Tom in the 9/11 attacks, is the National Chair of https://911familiesunited.org/ ("9/11 Families United") – a coalition of families and survivors of the worst-ever terrorist attacks on American soil. They represent over 9,000 victims' family members and survivors seeking justice and the truth from that tragic day.
Lisa and Terry discuss 9/11, the Saudi government, LIV Golf and much more...
Here's a timeline of the discussion:
:10 - Introduce Terry and her role with "9/11 Families United"
:53 - Terry takes us through what happened on Sept. 11...
2:09 - Her husband Tom called soon after the plane hit the North Tower of the World Trade Center. She describes that call and the panic that followed.
2:47 - How did "9/11 Families United" come about? She joined in 2002 to find out why and how this happened... and who was behind it. Her mission to hold Saudi Arabia accountable.
4:17 - She talks about the point she knew Saudi was accountable, holding the government accountable and why previous Presidential administrations haven't helped. Also brings to light the "Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism" Act presented by Congress.
5:42 - The Saudis play dirty... bullying, bribery, threaten people and kill them.
6:53 - Why there has been pushback to release info on Saudis from all administrations before Biden. Choosing Saudis over America's interests because of oil, geopolitical reasons, etc... but it's no excuse. The U.S. government isn't forcing the Saudi Kingdom to own up to its wrongdoings.
7:55 - Her reaction to declassification of 9/11 documents under the "Transparency Act." A lot of information is still redacted. Revealed that Saudi diplomats who had credentials to work in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs were extremists who were setting up support networks for the 9/11 terrorists.
10:27 - Has there been any communication with President Biden? Terry says he's obligated to address this with MBS when he meets with him next month now that they have phone and bank records linking the Saudi government with 9/11. "Operation Encore" by the FBI has revealed all of these details. There is now evidence of Saudi involvement and President Biden must address it.
12:19 - How does the lawsuit stand now and what's next?
12:51 - Where can we see these redacted documents? The FBI Vault online. There is a protective order against releasing more information at the request of the Saudi government.
14:12 - Her reaction when she first heard about LIV Golf.
17:05 - Her late husband was a scratch golfer. What would he say about LIV Golf?
17:57 - Her late husband was also a Phil Mickelson fan. USA Today columnist, Christine Brennan, asked Mickelson at the U.S. Open about the letter Terry sent him and the U.S. golfers joining LIV on behalf of "9/11 Families United." What was her reaction to his brush off?
19:52 - Is this how MBS wins... sportswashing?
21:02 - The Ladies European Tour in women's golf has six Saudi funded events. What are the dangers of the Aramco Series?
24:08 - Terry sends a clear message to female golfers on the LPGA Tour thinking about accepting Saudi money – you will be a mouthpiece and lose your great history in the game.
25:12 - What would her message be to the LPGA Commissioner and players to avoid a hostile takeover of women's golf by the Saudi's and MBS?
27:11 - How much does what happened on 9/11 still haunt you?
Lina Alhathloul: Sister of Loujain Who Was Imprisoned & Tortured by Saudis
Lina AlHathloul is the youngest sister of Loujain. Since her older sister was detained in May 2018, alongside more than a dozen other women human rights defenders, Lina has become one of the few family members able and willing to speak out on behalf of an incarcerated relative. A lawyer by training, Lina has become a tireless advocate for her sister and has spoken to numerous media outlets, at international events and gatherings, and to representatives of the U.S. government and the United Nations.
00:19 - Introduction to Lina
00:53 - What was it like growing up as a girl in Saudi Arabia with a guardianship system?
02:50 - Once she moved away from the country, Lina explains what it was like to experience life in a free country for the first time.
04:15 - Lisa gives background on Loujain being imprisoned for 1,001 days and what she experienced during that time.
04:48 - Lina explains the moment her sister was kidnapped in the UAE and the course of events that led to her unlawful imprisonment.
09:16 - Lina describes in further detail exactly what happened to her sister Loujain while being held in the torture facility–beatings, electric shock therapy, waterboarding, sexual abuse and the man who ordered it all–MBS's right hand man, Saud al-Qahtani, who allegedly oversaw the murder of Jamal Khashoggi.
11:53 - How did her release come about? Lina explains how her sister was labeled as a traitor with signs bearing her face placed around the capital city with those stamped on them. MBS claims Loujain was communicating with enemy states but not produced any of the evidence he claimed to posses.
15:41 - Lina talks about how her sister was offered an early release if she made a video statement saying she was never tortured or harassed while imprisoned, which Loujain refused to do.
17:03 - What is Loujain doing now? Lina describes her sister's five-year travel ban, how people around her are targeted, being isolated and how she lives in constant fear.
18:10 - Lisa asks Lina about an https://www.elle.com/culture/a39787294/inside-saudi-arabias-secret-detention-facilities-where-women-disappear/?utm_source=twitterandutm_medium=social-mediaandutm_campaign=socialflowTWELM (article) she recently tweeted about regarding the care houses and how women who report their abusers (rape victims, incest, physical abuse) are held in these facilities and tortured for months before being released back to their male abusers.
20:04 - In 2020, Lina wrote a https://grantliberty.org/loujain-al-hathloul-sister-begs-ladies-european-tour-golfers-to-boycott-saudi-event-in-solidarity-with-womens-rights-activists-held-in-the-kingdom/ (letter) to members of the Ladies European Tour begging them not to participate in any Saudi government sponsored tournaments (Aramco Series). She explains what prompted her to write the letter and discusses the dangers sportswashing poses to all Saudi women.
24:25 - Lisa asks Lina what her message would be to LPGA players currently wearing the "Golf Saudi" logo and accepting MBS's blood money.
26:51 - Does it give MBS power when players from the West support his sportswashing efforts?
27:56 - Lina responds to Greg Norman's comments about life for women in Saudi Arabia getting better because he's seen them in restaurants. She also reacts to Lee Westwood's claims that life is improving for women and people in Saudi.
29:51 - What's the future for women in Saudi under MBS?
30:23 - Lisa asks Lina how concerned she is for her sister's safety. Lina goes into detail about the travel ban, continued torture, her sister's phone being targeted with spyware, being followed and harassed.
31:55 - How about her own personal safety? She talks about why speaking out will always help her sister and she doesn't have the luxury to remain silent.
32:57 - Thank you...
Christine Brennan (USA Today): Saudi, Pay Equality, Transgender Athletes & More
Christine Brennan is an award-winning national sports columnist for https://www.usatoday.com/staff/2648182001/christine-brennan/ (USA Today), a commentator for CNN, ABC News, PBS NewsHour and NPR, a best-selling author and a nationally-known speaker. Named one of the country’s top 10 sports columnists three times by the Associated Press Sports Editors, she has covered the last 18 Olympic Games, summer and winter.
:45 - Her proudest achievements as a sports journalist over the years
3:17 - Saudi Arabia: The sportswashing debate; Greg Norman's horrendous comments and potential players accepting blood money
7:44 - China: What about its horrible human rights record and how are leagues/organizations/journalists responding
11:10 - Women's Tennis Association: Leading the way by pulling out of China over Peng Shuai and the clear message that sent.
13:02 - More on Saudi: The Ladies European Tour (LET) is playing in Saudi Arabia and has six total Saudi sponsored events on the schedule. The LPGA has controlling interest in the LET. What does this mean for women's golf
19:37 - How different would the LPGA and WTA be if Billie Jean King had been a golfer and Nancy Lopez had been a tennis player
33:11 - Pay Equality: women's soccer, golf, ice skating, etc... and why is paying the men and women so important
42:57 - Brittney Griner: Is the story of her being held as a prisoner in Russia for 100+ days now getting enough attention
48:52 - Transgender Athletes: Where does she stand on the discussion and how does she see it playing out
56:37 - Learn More: Continue this discussion with Christine or reach out if you're an aspiring journalists and have questions @ https://christinebrennan.com/ (ChristineBrennan.com)
Brittany Lincicome: Equality, Social Media Battles & Being A Mother/Athlete
Brittany Lincicome is one of the most successful players in LPGA history. In her rookie season (2005), she led the tour in driving distance earning her the nickname, "Bam-Bam." She has gone on to win eight titles in her LPGA career, with two major championships and nearly $10-million in prize money.
In this inaugural episode, Lisa Cornwell speaks with Brittany about life off the golf course and being an outspoken advocate for equality.
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