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A Special Episode of Messy Jesus Business podcast, with Sister Julia Walsh.







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Though Holy Week will be here soon, the Lenten journey continues. We invite you to take some time in prayerful contemplation of this season with Sister Julia in this special episode. This meditation includes a reading from Isaiah 58:5-12 and a poem previously published on Messy Jesus Business in 2022 entitled "Death Poetica" by Sister Julia. You can find the poem here: https://messyjesusbusiness.com/2022/03/02/death-poetica/







MESSY JESUS BUSINESS is hosted by Sister Julia Walsh. 







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Episode 60 of Messy Jesus Business podcast, with Sister Julia Walsh.







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"Jesus teaches us that differences aren’t deficits. Because a person is in poverty or struggling… that doesn't make them any less human.” - Ralph McCloud









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In this episode of Messy Jesus Business podcast, Sister Julia Walsh chats with Ralph McCloud, Director of the Catholic Campaign for Human Development. They dig into some of the fundamental concepts of the Campaign's work, especially what it means to have a preferential option for the poor, and the difference between fairness and justice. Ralph talks about the limits of charity and how fear and racism can prevent engaging with the poor, even if, as he says, "Working with low income communities is... very rarely neat."







Julia asks Ralph about how he deals with criticism thrown at him, and how he sees the messy balance between living the Gospel and being a part of a divided Church and society. As Ralph adds, "If we prioritize our way of life, our comfort, our income, our ideology, all of these above the call that says love one another, all of these above worshiping and following Jesus, ... that can throw you into a society that is as polarized as the one we find ourselves in right now."







ABOUT THE GUEST







Ralph McCloud is the Director of the Catholic Campaign for Human Development (or CCHD), the domestic anti-poverty program of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops. CCHD works to break the cycle of poverty by helping low-income people participate in decisions that affect their lives, families and communities and by educating people on poverty and justice. Ralph has served as the national director for fifteen years.







Prior to working at the USCCB, Ralph worked as Division Director of Pastoral and Community Services in the Diocese of Fort Worth, Texas. While in this position, Ralph served four terms on the Fort Worth City Council from 1997 – 2005 and 3 terms as Mayor Pro Tempore.







He currently serves on the board of the Catholic Mobilizing Network. Ralph is a member of St. Teresa of Avila Parish in Washington DC where he serves on the Finance Council and is a lector.







He has served as President of the National Association of Black Catholic Administrators and as a board member of both the National Black Catholic Congress and the Roundtable Association of Social Action Directors. Also, he chaired the County Homeless Commission and was named Tarrant County’s First Racial Reconciliation Award Winner by the Tarrant County Community of Churches. He is also the recipient of the State of Texas Courage Award from the Texas Coalition to Abolish the Death Penalty. In 2009, he was awarded the History Maker Award from the Archdiocese of Atlanta in 2009 and Catholic Charities USA’s Martin Luther King Keep the Dream Al...

Episode 59 of Messy Jesus Business podcast, with Sister Julia Walsh.







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"One needs to be looking for Christ in the world, not for the mistakes the world makes about Christ.” - Phyllis Zagano









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In this episode of Messy Jesus Business podcast, Sister Julia Walsh talks with scholar, author and lecturer Dr. Phyllis Zagano about her faith journey and the role of women in the Catholic Church. They discuss synodality in the Catholic Church and women in the diaconate. Plus they get into the mess of power, advocating for change and living a life of faith, joy and prayer. Zagano noted, “My bishop asked me not long ago, ‘do you get up at 5 in the morning to write?’ And I said ‘no, I get up at 5 in the morning to pray.’”







ABOUT THE GUEST







Phyllis Zagano is an internationally acclaimed Catholic scholar and lecturer on contemporary spirituality and women's issues in the church. Her award-winning books include Holy Saturday: An Argument for the Restoration of the Female Diaconate in the Catholic Church (First Place, 2001 Catholic Press Association and 2002 College Theology Society), Women & Catholicism: Gender, Communion, and Authority (Second Place, 2012 Catholic Press Association), Women Deacons? Essays with Answers (First Place, 2017 Catholic Press Association), Women: Icons of Christ (Second Place, 2021 Catholic Media Association) and Women Religious, Women Deacons: Questions and Answers (Paulist Press, 2022). 







Her newest books are: Elizabeth Visits the Abbey (Clear Faith Publishing, 2022), a novel for young people about a twelve-year-old girl whose aunt, the abbess of a large abbey in Ireland, tells her about the history of women in the Church; and Just Church (Paulist Press, 2023), which reviews Catholic social teaching and modern synods in relation to current and prospective ministry by women.







Her writing is widely translated — her best-selling On Prayer: A Letter for My Godchild is in Indonesian, Spanish and Italian as well as English — and she edited the Liturgical Press' "Spirituality in History" series.







Zagano belonged to the 2016-2018 Papal Commission for the Study of the Diaconate of Women. Winner of two Fulbright awards, her biographical listings include Marquis Who's Who. Her professional papers are held by the Women in Leadership Archives, Loyola University, Chicago. She holds a research appointment at Hofstra University, Hempstead, New York.







Phyllis's personal webpage at Hofstra University: https://sites.hofstra.

Episode 58 of Messy Jesus Business podcast, with Sister Julia Walsh.







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"We’re shaped … and affected by what we love, what we care about, what we pay attention to, what we admire.” - Robert Ellsberg









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"Our faith is rooted not in maxims, but in a narrative," shares publisher and editor-in-chief of Orbis Books, Robert Ellsberg, in his conversation with Sister Julia in Episode 58 of the Messy Jesus Business Podcast. Other topics explored in the discussion include the meaning of holiness, the communion of saints and the mess of being a Christian disciple.







Robert’s own narrative has been a movement to peace and a path to spiritual writing that brought him to Dorothy Day, the Catholic Worker Movement and Sister Wendy Beckett; to the ethos of authorship about the lives of saints and their perspectives of the presence of God in all of us. Their humanity, partly through all the difficulties and happy accidents that gave them powerful presence in our lives, has been Ellsberg’s inspiration to write, in order to "spread... these seeds of mindfulness and compassion and awareness."







ABOUT THE GUEST







Robert Ellsberg is the editor-in-chief and publisher of Orbis Books, where he has worked for 35 years. He spent 1975-80 working with Dorothy Day at the Catholic Worker, two years as managing editor of the paper; and he has edited Day's selected writings, diaries, letters, and other work. Robert has written and edited 25 books, including six books on saints and holiness. For over 10 years he has written a daily entry, "Blessed Among Us" for "Give Us This Day" (Liturgical).







Robert's most recent book is Dearest Sister Wendy…A Surprising Story of Faith and Friendship.







Dorothy Day's Selected Writings, edited by Robert: https://orbisbooks.com/products/dorothy-day?_pos=4&_sid=e6af7dd2e&_ss=r







Robert's essays in America Magazine: https://www.americamagazine.org/voices/robert-ellsberg







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MESSY JESUS BUSINESS is hosted by Sister Julia Walsh.

Episode 57 of Messy Jesus Business podcast, with Sister Julia Walsh.







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"Readers complete a text. And so storytelling is a collaborative activity.” - Liam Callanan









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“The act of listening is a very powerful one,” begins Liam Callanan in conversation with Sister Julia Walsh as her guest in Episode 57 of the Messy Jesus Business Podcast. Liam is an author, journalist and teacher who declares passion for writing, collaborating, Rome “and … the mess!”  







Their conversation encompasses the community and connections that can come to fruition in the collaboration of listening, something he experiences in the celebration of mass in the Catholic Church. “... you’re seeing other people lift up their voices and their hearts to God, and that’s a powerful expression in community. It’s all about sitting in the pew and turning to the person next to you and saying ‘welcome’ … a very powerful, active witness for me.”







Liam also shares his perception from the contextual container people put him in as a Catholic writer, an identity through which he finds opportunity for welcoming and mutual listening. “There’s no box that doesn’t have an opening. You just have to unseal it,” says Callanan.







ABOUT THE GUEST







Liam Callanan is a novelist, journalist and teacher. He is the author of The Cloud Atlas, and his nationally best-selling novel, Paris by the Book, was translated into multiple languages and won the Wisconsin Council of Writers 2019 Edna Ferber Fiction Book Award. He is also the 2017 winner of the George W. Hunt, SJ, Prize, awarded by America Magazine and the St. Thomas More Chapel and Center at Yale University. Liam’s work has been published in The Wall Street Journal, Slate, The New York Times, The Washington Post and the San Francisco Chronicle, and he’s recorded numerous essays for public radio. He has taught for the Warren Wilson MFA Program for Writers, Bread Loaf Writers’ Conference, and currently is a professor at the University of Wisconsin–Milwaukee. Liam lives in Milwaukee with his wife and daughters.







His most recent novel, When In Rome, will be published by Penguin Random House in March 2023.







Check out Liam's website here: https://www.liamcallanan.com

Episode 56 of Messy Jesus Business podcast, with Sister Julia Walsh.







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"Community extends beyond just a group I belong to... we need to extend that belonging to fellow human beings, no matter who they are." –Teré Maya









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In this episode of Messy Jesus Business, Sister Julia Walsh gets into the mess of community with Sister Teresa Maya. She and Julia discuss the ways that embracing the messiness of life and the Church sometimes means doing awkward things, like going to mass in a language you don't speak. Teresa also delves into the idea of encuentro--what happens when we come together and how it's bigger than any of us when we're separate. Later, Teresa speaks about her life as a historian, and how history can recover what we've lost in the pursuit of perfection. Other covered topics include how religious life is not going to look like it has in the past, how diversity can enrich spiritual life, and how discipleship is like dance.







ABOUT THE GUEST







Sister Teresa Maya is a member of the Congregation of the Sisters of Charity of the Incarnate Word, San Antonio since 1994. Her education ministry has spanned several decades: she has served as teacher, history professor, administrator, and speaker. She has passion for formation of ministers for Hispanics/Latinas/os in the United States. She has a commitment to life-long learning and a strong conviction in the future of consecrated life. Sister Teresa got her B.A. at Yale University, her M.A. at the Graduate Theological Union at Berkeley and the Ph.D. in El Colegio de Mexico in Mexico City. She served fourteen years in the leadership of her religious institute and on the Leadership Conference of Women Religious (LCWR) presidency from 2016-19. She currently accompanies other religious congregations as facilitator and consultant.







Teresa's recent Advent video for Catholic Women Preach: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Y6nzYRSowM







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