A positive voice for nature, from Ireland.
Episode 32 Janie Chodosh meets the Elephant Doctor of India
Today Mary is talking to Janie Chodosh, author of 'The Elephant Doctor of India'.
She is an undergraduate at the University of Michigan and majored in biology, ecology, natural resources management, creative writing, and poetry. After college, she moved to Yosemite National Park where she worked as a naturalist and educator and learned to rock climb and backcountry ski.
For her thesis as a graduate student in the University of Montana's environmental studies she traveled to a rural community on the coast of Oaxaca, Mexico to develop an environmental education program focusing on neotropical migratory songbirds (a fancy title for birds that breed in the north and winter south of the border).
She moved to Santa Fe, New Mexico to work as the education director for the state Audubon Society and later as a teacher.
When not writing she loves to hang out with her family, rock climb, try to grow a garden in the arid southwest, bird watch, muck around in cool places, travel, and attempt to play Klezmer music on her violin!
Contact Janie through her website with links to all her books
Elephant friendly tea
The Soul of an Octopus
By Sy Montgomery
H is for Hawk
By Helen McDonald
By Carl Safina
Earth's Wild Music
By Kathleen Dean Moore
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The elephant whisperer whose name I couldn't remember in the podcast was Lawrence Anthony.
'No one knows how, but the elephants travelled from one corner of the vast game reserve to the other, and came to Anthony’s home, and stood right outside of it, in the same way as they mourn the passing of one of their family members. They stood there for nearly two days, after which they dispersed again.'
Episode 31 (Nature Educators No 5) Dr Claire Warden is mending the planet with golden glue
Today Mary is talking to Dr. Claire Warden. Claire is an advocate for outdoor learning. Among many achievemnts she is Founder of Living Classrooms, the International Association of Nature Pedagogy and the Mindstretchers Academy.
Claire is also director of the wonderful Auchlone Nature Kindergarten in Scotland where children spend 80% of their day outside.
She received the international award 'Exceptional Master Leader' for her work on the Floorbooks Approach and she has written many other educational books including ‘Nature Kindergartens and Forest schools’
Get in touch with Claire at https://www.Claire-warden.com
Check out Auchlone Nature Kindergarten at https://www.auchlone.co.uk
Get in touch with Mary at firstname.lastname@example.org
The Little Grey Men
Episode 30 Warwick Schiller - What horses teach humans
Today Mary is speaking to Warwick Schiller. Warwick is a You tube superstar with over 20 million views of his horse training videos. Warwick moved from his home country of Australia in his 20s to the United States. He became NRHA Reserve World Champion representing Australia at the 2010 & 2018 World Equestrian Games.
Warwick's ever-evolving training philosophy places the horse's mental well-being at the forefront of every interaction.
He now spends his time helping people create deep and meaningful relationships with their horses, by helping them to change their perceptions about their horses and themselves.
Warwick has over 600 training videos on his online video platform, designed to create a relaxed, connected and skilled equine partner.
His podcast Journey On digs deep into the soul of the horse and the human.
Warwick Schiller is changing the way we train the horse and the way we think about ourselves.
Episode 29 (Nature Educators No 4) Professor David Sobel is otterly delightful
Today Mary is talking to Professor David Sobel as a contributor to the nature educators series within Nature Magic.
David is a Professor in the Education Department at Antioch University New England. He consults and speaks widely on child development and place-based education with schools, environmental organisations and the National Park Service in the US. He has authored eight books and more than 70 articles focused on children and nature for educators, parents, environmentalists and school administrators in the last 30 years.
His published books include Beyond Ecophobia and Place-based Education:: Design Principles for Educators and Wild Play, Parenting Adventures in the Great Outdoors,.
His most recent book is Nature Preschools and Forest Kindergartens published by Redleaf Press.
He was recognized as one of the Daring Dozen educational leaders in the United States in 2007.
This interview investigates David’s deep connection with nature and how he believes we can foster the innate spiritual connection that children have with the natural world and how this benefits humanity and our planet.
The Last Beautiful Days of Autumn
By: John Nichols
The Ecology of Imagination in Childhood
By: Edith Cobb
The Magical Child
By: Joseph Chilton Pearce
An Indian Boyhood
By: Charles A. Eastman
The Tender Carnivore and the Sacred Game
By: Paul Shepherd
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Episode 28 Professor Temple Grandin on the bovine mind
Professor Temple Grandin is professor of Animal Sciences in the College of Agricultural Sciences at Colorado State University.
She is a prominent proponent for the humane treatment of livestock for slaughter and author of more than 60 scientific papers on animal behavior. She is a consultant to the livestock industry on animal behavior, and an autism spokesperson. She is one of the first individuals on the autism spectrum to document the insights she gained from her personal experience of autism.
In the 2010 Time 100, an annual list of the 100 most influential people in the world, she was named among those in the "Heroes"
She was the subject of the Emmy- and Golden Globe-winning semi-biographical film Temple Grandin.
Professor Grandin has been an outspoken proponent of the autism rights and neurodiversity movements.
Some of the recommended books by Professor Grandin:
Improving animal welfare- a practical approach- 3rd edition
Animals in Translation
The Autistic Brain
Animals make us human
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Episode 27 (Nature Educators No 3) Professor Jan White makes a mud kitchen
Today Mary is talking to Professor Jan White.
Jan is a leading thinker and writer on outdoor play and advocate for nature-rich outdoor provision for services for children from birth to seven. She works as an early childhood consultant across the UK, Ireland and internationally
Jan has over thirty-eight years’ experience in education and has developed a deep commitment to the consistently powerful effect of the outdoors on young children. With a childhood love of rocks and soil, leading to a degree in Soil Science, a masters in Ecology and post-graduate teaching certificate in Science and Outdoor Education, she realises that she has always been, at heart, a committed mudologist!
Jan co-authored the globally influential booklet Making a Mud Kitchen (available in 12 languages) and is author of Playing and Learning Outdoors, now in its 3rd edition. She is honorary Professor of Practice with the University of Wales Trinity St David, and founder/co-director of Early Childhood Outdoors, the national organisation for play, learning and wellbeing outdoors.
Making a Mud Kitchen can be downloaded as a free PDF from Muddy Faces’ Outdoor Hub at https://muddyfaces.co.uk/outdoor-hub/mud/mud-kitchen-book
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My Family and Other Animals by Gerald Durrell
Ring of Bright Water by Gavin Maxwell
Tarqa the Otter by Henry Williamson
Sharing Nature with Children by Joseph Bharat Cornell
Grandfather Twilight by Barbra Berger
Frederick by Leo Lionni
Frog and Toad by Arnold Lobel
Ears and the Secret Song by Meryl Dolley
Biophilia by E.O. Wilson
The Goodness of Rain by Ann Pelo
Braiding Sweetgrass by Robin Wall Kimmerer
Quotation by Kahlil Gibran:
“Forget not that the earth delights to feel your bare feet and the winds long to play with your hair”
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Nature Magic- How you can engage everyone with biodiversity at
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Mary brings on wonderful guests to her show. She asks great questions and she offers pratical information. Great podcast!
I love the practical, insightful, and multidimensional connections Mary brings forward in her podcast.
Mary knows her stuff about nature. Randomly stumbled upon her pod and stayed fir a few episodes 🤝