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Hosted by Joan Garry, the “Dear Abby” of the nonprofit world, Nonprofits Are Messy is a discussion of the most pressing issues faced by nonprofit leadership. Joan and her guests tackle topics like the overhead myth, the best way to run special events, how to make a big fundraising ask, board-staff relations, and so much more. At times hilarious, uplifting, and frustrating, the stories told in this podcast should feel very familiar to anybody working in a nonprofit today.



Topics include fundraising, leadership development, building a great board, Executive Director / Board relations, communications and messaging, staff management, nonprofit career advice, crisis management, digital marketing, social media, and so much more.



Listen to real stories of nonprofit leaders like you and how they handled the mess. Because the truth is, nonprofits ARE messy. There’s not enough money, too many cooks, and an abundance of passion. Leading nonprofits isn’t easy. This podcast will help.

Nonprofits Are Messy: Lessons in Leadership | Fundraising | Board Development | Communications Joan Garry

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Hosted by Joan Garry, the “Dear Abby” of the nonprofit world, Nonprofits Are Messy is a discussion of the most pressing issues faced by nonprofit leadership. Joan and her guests tackle topics like the overhead myth, the best way to run special events, how to make a big fundraising ask, board-staff relations, and so much more. At times hilarious, uplifting, and frustrating, the stories told in this podcast should feel very familiar to anybody working in a nonprofit today.



Topics include fundraising, leadership development, building a great board, Executive Director / Board relations, communications and messaging, staff management, nonprofit career advice, crisis management, digital marketing, social media, and so much more.



Listen to real stories of nonprofit leaders like you and how they handled the mess. Because the truth is, nonprofits ARE messy. There’s not enough money, too many cooks, and an abundance of passion. Leading nonprofits isn’t easy. This podcast will help.

    Ep 150: Reflection: How My White Privilege Affects My Leadership

    Ep 150: Reflection: How My White Privilege Affects My Leadership

    I have watched countless nonprofit leaders who serve communities of color work tirelessly to educate mostly white boards about the unique challenges that recent events like the ongoing COVID pandemic and the killing of George Floyd have created for their clients.

    This lack of nonprofit board diversity is one of the many ways that racial inequality shapes our sector.

    To overcome the gaps in lived experience between nonprofit orgs’ executives and boards and the communities they serve, we need to address the white privilege that is embedded in our governance models, financial support, and leadership.

    I have spent decades working in and with the nonprofit sector — and I want to do everything that I can to understand and address how racial bias is embedded in every nook and cranny of it. It is my responsibility to help reshape our sector into one that champions leadership diversity. (Click here to learn more about my commitment for 2022.)

    As ignited as I am about this mission, I am still not 100% confident on issues of diversity and inclusion.

    That is one of the key reasons why we found it so important to invest in diversity, equity, and inclusion training for the Nonprofit Leadership Lab. We aspire to support our members on their journeys and through this work play a role in building and supporting more diversity in leadership.

    It is also a reason why it is important for me to self-reflect on how my own white privilege, and its intersection with my sexual orientation, has impacted my position in the nonprofit sector. In this episode, I dig deep into this topic, out loud and in front of a microphone for the first time — and it gets very personal.

    Click play to listen.

    In This Episode:



    * Why does the nonprofit sector need more diversity in leadership? (0:48)

    * How has my intersectional identity as a white lesbian impacted my career in nonprofit work? (6:45)

    * What did the events of January 6, 2021, teach me about racial inequality in the US? (9:54)

    * What if you’re not confident addressing issues of diversity and inclusion? (11:24)

    * What is the “age of minorities” and how will it impact the nonprofit sector? (12:58)





    Resources



    * Roller Board Bag Amazon

    * Ford Foundation Launches First-Ever U.S. Disability Rights Program

    * GLAAD

    * Rashad Robinson- Color of Change

    * ​​Managing Rapid Growth – the Story of charity: waterEp 85:  (Lauren Letta)

    * The Raben Group 

    * The Age of the Creative Minority-By David Brooks

    * FREE WORKSHOP: Let’s Build the Nonprofit Board of Your Dreams!

    * Joan Garry’s Guide to Nonprofit Leadership – 2nd Edition by Joan Garry

    * FREE WORKSHOP: The 5 Practices of Outstanding Nonprofit Leaders

    * Your Nonprofit Life Podcast

    * Joan Garry’s Instagram

    * Explore the Nonpro...

    • 17 min
    Ep 149: Can We Fix the Nonprofit Burnout Problem? (with Chris Barlics)

    Ep 149: Can We Fix the Nonprofit Burnout Problem? (with Chris Barlics)

    Today, Health Coach and Personal Trainer, Chris Barlics, and I are going to talk about something many nonprofit leaders put last on their to-do lists: self-care.

    Not just because it is January and many of us are reflecting on how we can improve our lives through setting goals and making resolutions, but also because so many nonprofit leaders are notorious people pleasers and workaholics — which often leads to nonprofit burnout.

    There is nothing wrong with being a do-gooder, and trust me, our world is lucky to have people like you. But it is important to remember to fill your own cup as well by taking care of yourself.

    I mean, can you imagine a world where the folks who answer the call to do this worked are fueled up, energized, and full of life? I believe if we all set an intention to practice more self-care in 2022, we can get there.

    Everybody is different, every schedule is different, and not everyone wants to eat kale while on an elliptical — perhaps no one understands that better than today’s guest, Chris Barlics. In his work as a health coach and personal trainer, he specializes in helping busy people over 45 reap the powerful benefits of regular physical activity.

    So, if improving your health in any way was on your list of New Year’s resolutions this year, then you should listen in as he shares some really practical tips on how you can make exercise suck less and make it a consistent part of your self care routine.

    Listen to learn:



    * Why do so many people avoid exercise? (6:21)

    * How do you find your “why” for self care? (8:41)

    * How can exercise help stressed nonprofit leaders avoid nonprofit burnout? (9:32)?

    * How can nonprofit leaders better practice self care? (25:06)

    * Why is consistency so important when it comes to your self care routine? (33:42)

    * What can nonprofit leaders do to fit more exercise into their busy schedules in 2022? (36:36)





    Resources



    * Move and Feel Younger

    * Crack Your Code: The Ultimate DIY Guide for a Thinner, Happier Life

    * FREE GUIDE: The Exercise Guide for Busy Professionals

    * Ep 145: How Tiny Habits Create Big Change (BJ Fogg)

    * FREE WORKSHOP: Let’s Build the Nonprofit Board of Your Dreams!

    * Joan Garry’s Guide to Nonprofit Leadership – 2nd Edition by Joan Garry

    * Workout Time Lapse

    * How Even Workaholic Bosses Can Promote Workplace Self Care

    * 5 Practices of Outstanding Nonprofits

    * Learn how to build the board of your dreams

    * Kermit

    * FREE WORKSHOP: Let’s Build the Nonprofit Board of Your Dreams!

    * Joan Garry’s Guide to Nonprofit Leadership – 2nd Edition by Joan Garry

    * Free Webinar: The 5 Practices of Outstanding Nonprofit Leaders

    * Your Nonprofit Life Podcast

    * Joan Garry’s Instagram

    • 47 min
    Ep 148: Why Nonprofits Are Still Messy in 2021 (with Jim Axelrod)

    Ep 148: Why Nonprofits Are Still Messy in 2021 (with Jim Axelrod)

    Leading a small but mighty nonprofit is not easy — but these organizations are the bedrock of every community we live in. In this special episode of our podcast, my friend and neighbor, CBS Correspondent, Jim Axelrod, joins me to talk about why.

    There are 1.5 million nonprofit organizations in the United States, and in many ways, they are the backbone of this society of ours. But, despite the important role these organizations play in their communities, many of them lack the support and resources they need to really thrive.

    Yet somehow, small nonprofit organizations around our country continue to do remarkable things. Just imagine the world we could create if these organizations had all the resources and support they need — all the time.

    This is one of the many reasons why I was so inspired to write my book, Nonprofits Are Messy. I wanted to write the book that I wish I could have read in my first ED job at a very messy nonprofit.

    It’s been one year since the second edition came out, and so much has changed in our sector, while some things have remained the same. As we continue to push through the ongoing pandemic, nonprofits are needed now more than ever — but they are also hungrier for resources than ever.

    In today’s special episode of our podcast, my neighbor, CBS correspondent Jim Axelrod, interviews me at a book launch event hosted by our local bookstore in Montclair, NJ, Watchung Booksellers. I invite you to listen in to this virtual salon where Jim and I discuss why so many small nonprofits are messy (i.e. under-resourced), the art and science of nonprofit fundraising, and the the struggles and heroics of nonprofits across the country since the beginning of the ongoing pandemic.

    Listen to learn:



    * What has been the long-term impact of the ongoing pandemic on small nonprofit organizations?

    * What is the art and science of nonprofit fundraising?

    * What can small nonprofits learn from Nonprofits Are Messy?

    * Why is it so important for nonprofit leaders to keep their north star vision?

    * How does the second edition of Nonprofits Are Messy differ for the first one?





    Resources



    * Check out the Second Edition of Nonprofits Are Messy

    * Watchung Booksellers

    * Toni’s Kitchen (Website)

    * Toni’s Kitchen (Instagram)

    * Jazzhouse Kids

    * God’s Love We Deliver

    * 5 Practices of Outstanding Nonprofits

    * Learn how to build the board of your dreams

    * Kermit

    * FREE WORKSHOP: Let’s Build the Nonprofit Board of Your Dreams!

    * Joan Garry’s Guide to Nonprofit Leadership – 2nd Edition by Joan Garry

    * Free Webinar: The 5 Practices of Outstanding Nonprofit Leaders

    * Your Nonprofit Life Podcast

    * Joan Garry’s Instagram

    * Explore the Nonprofit Leadership Lab

    * Music by a href="http://www.jukeboxtheghost.

    • 51 min
    Ep 147: How Powerful Partnerships Drive Innovative Nonprofit Marketing (with Alison Moore)

    Ep 147: How Powerful Partnerships Drive Innovative Nonprofit Marketing (with Alison Moore)

    Many nonprofit leaders are scrambling to figure out how to make payroll and many boards of directors think they are in the business of risk management — which leaves very little time and resources left to dedicate to innovative nonprofit marketing.

    But, in today’s digital world, it is nearly impossible to reach a wide audience of potential donors and invite them to join your cause without it. Luckily today’s guest, Alison Moore, Chief Executive Officer of Comic Relief US, knows a thing or two about this.

    Her organization partners with nonprofits (as well as corporate and media partners) to help raise awareness for pressing social issues using the power of creative content and inspiring nonprofit marketing campaigns.

    Through these powerful nonprofit partnerships and highly anticipated events like Red Nose Day, a year-round fundraising campaign with the mission to end child poverty, Comic Relief US helps to create real positive change by harnessing the power of entertainment and storytelling.

    Alison joins me today to dig deeper into the impact that creative content can have on your org’s mission and shares some strategies that your small nonprofit can use to scale its marketing efforts and inspire more joyful giving.

    Click Play to learn:



    * What nonprofit marketing strategies can small organizations use to reach more people?

    * What is the value of a non-transactional nonprofit partnership?

    * How can entertaining and creative content inspire joyful giving?

    * What is Red Nose Day?

    * How can small organizations innovate in their marketing efforts?





    Resources



    * Becoming a Social Prophet (Lynne Twist)

    * FREE WORKSHOP: Let’s Build the Nonprofit Board of Your Dreams!

    * Joan Garry’s Guide to Nonprofit Leadership – 2nd Edition by Joan Garry

    * Free Webinar: The 5 Practices of Outstanding Nonprofit Leaders

    * Your Nonprofit Life Podcast

    * Joan Garry’s Instagram

    * Explore the Nonprofit Leadership Lab

    * Music by Jukebox the Ghost

    * Voiceover Work by Cindy Cap Solutions



    Red Nose Day:



    * About Red Nose Day

    * Twitter

    * LinkedIn

    * Facebook

    * Instagram



    Comic Relief:



    * Website

    * Twitter 

    * LinkedIn

    * Facebook



    Contact Alison Moore



    * Twitter

    * LinkedIn



    About Alison:

    Alison Moore comes to Comic Relief US with extensive experience as a top executive in the media and technology industries,...

    • 1 hr 1 min
    Ep 146: Why Unbecoming Is the Key to Innovative Leadership (with Kerri Hoffman)

    Ep 146: Why Unbecoming Is the Key to Innovative Leadership (with Kerri Hoffman)

    Innovative leadership involves more than just figuring out which new ideas or technologies will propel your nonprofit organization toward its mission. It also involves determining which old ways of doing things need to be left behind in order for your org to thrive in the present moment.

    This has never been more evident than right now.

    As our post-Covid world emerges, many of us are finding out that the changes that we once thought were temporary are here to stay — and that many of the systems, processes, revenue models, and leadership styles that used to be so “normal” to us were actually quite flawed.

    So we are left with two choices. We can keep hoping that things will return to what we used to call “normal” or we can innovate in (and around) how we do things.

    Today’s guest, Kerri Hoffman (CEO of the nonprofit media company, PRX), credits this philosophy of “unbecoming” one thing to become “something else” as a catalyst that has helped her lead her organization gracefully through a transformational merger.

    But what does this process of “unbecoming” look like for today’s nonprofit leader? And how can it help your organization emerge stronger than ever in our post-Covid world?

    Kerri has some very valuable insights on this subject. Listen in as we discuss why “unbecoming” just might be the key to innovative leadership in the “new normal.”

    Listen to learn:



    * How does the process of “unbecoming” foster innovation?

    * Why is it important for today’s nonprofit leaders to embrace the “new normal”?

    * What is the definition of innovative leadership?

    * What is the role of innovation in nonprofit leadership?

    * How has nonprofit leadership changed since the onset of the global pandemic?





    Resources



    Learn more about PRX

    Free Webinar: The 5 Practices of Outstanding Nonprofit Leaders

    Ep 99: What Visionaries Do Best

    Ep 145: How Tiny Habits Create Big Change

    * Joan Garry’s Guide to Nonprofit Leadership – 2nd Edition by Joan Garry

    * Free Webinar: The 5 Practices of Outstanding Nonprofit Leaders

    * Your Nonprofit Life Podcast

    * Joan Garry’s Instagram

    * Explore the Nonprofit Leadership Lab

    * Music by Jukebox the Ghost

    * Voiceover Work by Cindy Cap Solutions



    Contact Kerri Hoffman



    * LinkedIn

    Twitter

    PRX’s Twitter

    * PRX’s Instagram



    About Kerri:

    As CEO of the nonprofit media company PRX, Kerri Hoffman has played a key role in the building and evolution of PRX, and led the launch of the Radiotopia podcast network, ‘The Moth Radio Hour,” “Reveal,

    • 42 min
    Ep 145: How Tiny Habits Create Big Change (with BJ Fogg)

    Ep 145: How Tiny Habits Create Big Change (with BJ Fogg)

    Today’s guest is Stanford professor and author of the New York Times bestselling book, Tiny Habits: The Small Changes that Change Everything, BJ Fogg. According to BJ, you are far more likely to succeed at something if you don’t bite off more than you can chew.

    But for nonprofit leaders, this habit can seem impossible to break (been there). Especially during those times when everything feels equally important — the donor who is all about her thank you note…the grant proposal due at 5pm…a client who will be homeless if they don’t get the check from your org on time…

    With so much important work to juggle at once, you’re probably wondering, “Is prioritization even possible?”

    The answer is yes, but as my guest, BJ Fogg, explains in this episode, good habit formation starts by first creating tiny habits that over time add up to monumental changes. In this episode, we discuss what this looks like for busy nonprofit leaders like you and how you can apply his strategies to improve your everyday life.

    BJ’s book, Tiny Habits, is based on twenty years of research on behavior design. He has also coached over 40,000 people in the art of habit formation.

    In This Episode:



    * What are tiny habits?

    * Why is good habit formation important for nonprofit leaders?

    * Which tiny habits help with prioritization?

    * What is the Fogg Behavioral Model?

    * What is behavior design?





    Resources



    Get BJ’s Book: Tiny Habits

    Tiny Habits Academy

    TinyHabits.com

    7 Ways to Avoid Burnout

    Take Back Your Time. Here’s How

    Ep 68: No, You Can’t Do It All

    * Joan Garry’s Guide to Nonprofit Leadership – 2nd Edition by Joan Garry

    * Free Webinar: The 5 Practices of Outstanding Nonprofit Leaders

    * Your Nonprofit Life Podcast

    * Joan Garry’s Instagram

    * Explore the Nonprofit Leadership Lab

    * Music by Jukebox the Ghost

    * Voiceover Work by Cindy Cap Solutions



    Contact BJ Fogg



    * LinkedIn

    * Twitter

    * Instagram

    * Website: BJFogg.com



    About BJ Fogg:

    BJ Fogg, Ph.D., founded the Behavior Design Lab at Stanford University. In addition to his research, Fogg teaches industry innovators how human behavior really works. He created the Tiny Habits Academy to help people around the world. He lives in Northern California and Maui.

    Find out more at a href="http://BJFogg.

    • 58 min

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Every Nonprofit Leader Should Subscribe!

I started listening to Joan when I was a Director of Development. When the pandemic started my life turned upside down and I found myself caring full-time for my two special needs kids at home and I could not longer keep a full-time job. After listening to more episodes and soul searching I realized I could follow Joan’s advice and start my own foundation. It is messy! But it is also beautiful. If you are in the nonprofit world, this podcast is a must listen!

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Loving episode #135 children’s theatre introspective!

I loved hearing about how the pandemic affected nonprofit children’s theater and how it has potentially provided a positive change that can be taken into the future. Great questions and equally thoughtful answers. Looking forward to hearing more from this guest host!

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