Piloting Piloting Pod

“Hidden Potential: The Science of Achieving Greater Things” is the latest bestseller by Adam Grant, who is the #1 New York Times bestselling author of books that have sold millions of copies and been translated into 35 languages. In a world obsessed with talent – gifted students, natural athletes, and child prodigies – Hidden Potential offers a new framework for learning so we can raise our aspirations and exceed expectations. 
We couldn’t cover everything, but some of the big takeaways about tapping into your potential we discuss include:
- How character is different from your personality
- The 4 character skills: proactive, prosocial, disciplined, determined
- The “scaffolding” or people who support you in reaching your potential
- Being polite vs. being kind
- Whether it’s better to ask for feedback or advice
- Why your learning preference is not always the best way to learn
- The importance of play (and taking breaks) when you practice
- How perfectionism is more of a liability than an asset
- Why passion > obsession
- & so much more!
In Adam’s words, “The true measure of your potential is not the height of the peak you’ve reached, but how far you’ve climbed to get there.” This book is the perfect read for anyone who wants to improve and can appreciate that being the best shouldn’t get in the way of being better.
Mentioned in the episode:
“Hidden Potential: The Science of Achieving Greater Things” by Adam Grant: https://adamgrant.net/book/hidden-potential/ 
Piloting Feedback Episode 3: “Is Choosing When to Ignore Feedback the Ultimate Flex?”: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/3-is-choosing-when-to-ignore-feedback-the-ultimate-flex/id1686279759?i=1000613340541 
Meju: https://www.instagram.com/meju.nyc 
Rothy’s Mary Janes: https://rothys.com/products/the-square-mary-jane-lollipop-red 
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Jacob-Bao Nguyen is a New York-based chef who is passionate about Vietnamese culture and food. With a background in printmaking and horticulture, Jacob made a career change into cooking (spoiler alert: without going to culinary school), where he quickly began training at some of the culinary world’s top restaurants. Today he is a freelance private chef and the host of an ongoing Viet-centric pop-up dinner series called Thần Thái.
Jacob shares insights about his career pivot and a peek behind the curtain into the not-as-glamorous-as-you-might-think life of a rising chef, including:
- Seizing a once-in-a-lifetime chance to work at Eleven Madison Park
- The intensity (and imposter syndrome) of working in fine dining
- Why culinary school isn’t the only place for a formal education in cooking 
- Chasing your dreams at 100 miles an hour
- Using your curiosity as a form of motivation 
- Making sacrifices and knowing if it’s “worth it” when the journey gets hard
- Building community and creating your own opportunities
- and so much more!
Mentioned in the episode:
Jacob’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jbaonguyen 
Thần Thái Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thanthai.nyc
 
Jacob’s Resident Profile: https://www.meetresident.com/chef-jacob-nguyen 
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This week, we’re taking a look back at our twenties – which aren’t that long ago for the record ;) – and reflecting on some of the things we’d do differently in our work/career lives. (We’ll spare you the gory details of our personal life learnings from that decade…)
We chat about so many lessons learned, including: 
- The danger of keeping up with the Joneses
- Learning to manage stress earlier and speak up sooner
- Not allowing money to drive so many of our decisions
- Releasing the idea of a “career” altogether
- Why hard work trumps talent and skill
- Getting things in writing
- Reflecting on past work holiday party shenanigans
- Admitting when we didn’t know things
- and so much more!
Mentioned in the episode:
Rowan: https://heyrowan.com 
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Erica Laws is a dating and relationship coach, and the founder of Laws of Attraction, one of the UK’s leading dating consultancies offering personalized dating and relationship coaching and professional matchmaking services. After over a decade working in corporate HR, where she matched candidates with positions, she decided to pivot and start matchmaking people in the world of love and romance.
Erica shares so many great insights about her piloting journey – plus some modern dating advice for singles and couple alike – including:
- pivoting her career from finance to dating & relationship coaching
- breaking the stigma around accepting dating help
- how dating coaching is different from therapy
- navigating dating app fatigue and her 3-day rule
- why shared values > shared interests when finding a partner
- which dating reality TV show gets it right
- the dos & don’ts for early in the game dates
- distinguishing the ‘ick’ from a gut feeling you should trust
- and so much more!
Mentioned in the episode:
Laws of Attraction: https://lawsofattractionlondon.co.uk 
Laws of Attraction Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lawsofattractiondating 
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This week, we’re talking about rejection and why it’s a necessary part of any piloting journey for any risk-taker, go-getter, or person craving a change. We share some of our own experiences with rejection and dive into:
- How rejection is different from failure
- Why people pleasers struggle with rejection
- Taking cues from creatives, athletes, and entrepreneurs
- Using rejection as an opportunity for reflection or redirection
- Getting comfortable with dealing with rejection
- Building your self-worth and confidence to help bounce back
- A reminder that winners lose, and getting rejected doesn’t make you a reject
Mentioned in the episode:
Candace Nelson Reel: https://www.instagram.com/p/C5jlYl0J5QB/ 
Rejection Therapy: https://www.rejectiontherapy.com/ 
“Try Again” by Aaliyah: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp4QI4GkLDo 
“Welcome to the Hyunam-dong Bookshop” by Hwang Bo-reum: https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/welcome-to-the-hyunamdong-bookshop-9781639732425/ 
Kinn Studio: https://kinnstudio.com/ 
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Today, we’re joined by Liz Ruf, Co-Founder of Scuppernong Group! Liz recently started a new company with her business partner that connects mission-driven businesses with fractional leaders for part-time leadership, planning, and project management expertise. In addition to this latest venture, Liz also has her own consulting company, sits on the board of a local nonprofit in North Carolina, organizes community Fuckup Nights events in her area, volunteers in marketing groups, and generally stays booked and busy! 
We had a great conversation this week, and Liz shared many lessons from her years of entrepreneurship, including:
- Pivoting from solopreneurship to a business partnership
- Building a big network as an introvert
- Juggling multiple work and personal calendars
- How burnout pushed her into a new career chapter
- Why she hates productivity
- What she misses about 9-5 life
- Overcoming her biggest failure
- Finding mentors
- and so much more!
Mentioned in the episode:
Scuppernong Group: https://scuppernong.group 
Elizabeth Ruf Consulting: https://elizabethruf.com 
Liz’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabethruf/ 
Scuppernong Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/scuppernong.group/ 
Scuppernong LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/scuppernong/ 
Fuckup Nights Raleigh: https://www.fuckupnights.com/city/raleigh 
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