Is there a future for godless congregations? Paul VanderKlay and James Croft Unbelievable?

Humanist leader James Croft leads a thriving godless congregation in an otherwise declining network of Ethical Societies. Does their story mirror that of many declining churches in the west?
He talks to Paul VanderKlay who pastors a small church in Sacramento while engaging a growing internet following. What is the future for godless and God-believing communities?
For James Croft: https://onlysky.media/author/jcroftFor Paul VanderKlay: https://www.youtube.com/c/PaulVanderKlay  
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