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An online forum for hickory golf...the game as it existed prior to 1935

Plus Four Podcast Robert Birman

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An online forum for hickory golf...the game as it existed prior to 1935

    Gillian Kirkwood and the history of Ladies Golf

    Gillian Kirkwood and the history of Ladies Golf

    Gillian Kirkwood possesses a wealth of golf knowledge and business experience and is a past Ladies Golf Union (LGU) Councilor and past Chairman of the Scottish Ladies’ Golfing Association. She is also a highly experienced rules official and, reflecting her keen interest in the history of ladies’ golf, chaired the Board of Trustees of the Women Golfers’ Museum.







    She had the distinction of serving as President of the LGU during the time of its merger with the R&A in 2017. Together with her husband, David, she owns and operates the Heritage of Golf Museum in the pro shop of Gullane Golf Club in East Lothian.







    I invited Gillian to reminisce about the early era of women's golf in Scotland and the British Isles, and to touch on the myriad projects she has had under her guidance seemingly every day since she was a lass. Her legacy in support of women's golf may be unparalleled in the modern era, and I was grateful for the opportunity to speak with her.







    Gillian was also Captain of Midlothian County Ladies Golf Association from 1991-1993 and was the Ladies Captain of Broomieknowe Golf Club from 1982-84 and from 2004-2006, and was most recently Vice-Captain of Gullane Ladies' Golf Club.

    • 46 min
    The Great English Golf Boom with Author Michael B. Morrison

    The Great English Golf Boom with Author Michael B. Morrison

    Researcher, author, and historian, Michael B. Morrison, published an exhaustive account in 2022 of the rise of golf in England which is a must-read for those who wish to better understand the origins of the modern game. In this episode, we speak about the process Morrison subjected himself to— over many years— in order to assemble the most complete record of the growth of the game in England, ever.







    During the course of his work, Michael became able to draw conclusions about the advancement of the game that differs from conventional wisdom, and is based on empirical data that, while perhaps painstaking to amass, provides the foundation for the evolution of the sport within the changing social demographics, geographies, and economic circumstances between the years 1864 and 1914.







    I feel confident that golfers everywhere will want to stop what they are doing, read-up on the fascinating and, in some ways, parallel development of the game to that in Scotland, and get to England as soon as possible to embrace the wealth of styles and historic golf courses that are today the envy of nations the world over.







    To order his book (which is self-published), you may contact Michael directly, details for which occur at the 1-hour-6-minute mark in our episode. I hope you enjoy this insight into the Great English Golf Boom!







    To see the BBC News interview with Michael on the course at Cambridge University, click here.

    • 1 hr 7 min
    Plus Four Podcast with Alex Bruce and Japan's Hickory Golf Culture

    Plus Four Podcast with Alex Bruce and Japan's Hickory Golf Culture

    Since 2013, the Happy Hickory Golfers in Japan have been a force in hickory golf. We've seen them represented with great joy at the World Hickory Open, for instance, and marvel at their event photos from countless outings in their home country. Alex Bruce— a native Scotsman— is one of the founders of the group, and a deeply dedicated advocate for hickory golf, worldwide. "How dedicated?" one might ask. So dedicated that he has one of the world's only hickory golf retail stores and he has been a guiding hand in supporting the World Hickory Open and St. Andrews Golf Company, organizations with long associations to his home turf in Scotland.







    In this episode, I speak with Alex about his upbringing, his second life in Japan (where he has lived and worked and grown his family for decades now), and the challenges of growing a national hickory organization to scale over nine regions, 47 prefectures, and in a country of more than 2,300 golf courses, the oldest of which (Kobe Golf Course) dates to 1903. We speak about the first-ever AsiaPAC Open, as well, which debuts September 3-5, 2023, in Australia.

    Alex is a joy to spend time with and our conversation makes it obvious why his endeavor in Japan is covered in nothing but enduring success.









    2013 年以来、日本のハッピー ヒッコリー ゴルファーはヒッコリー ゴルフの中心人物となっています。たとえば、ワールド ヒッコリー オープンで彼らが大喜びで代表を務めるのを私たちは見てきましたし、母国での数え切れないほどの試合の写真を見て驚嘆しました。アレックス ブルース - 生粋のスコットランド人 - はグループの創設者の 1 人であり、世界中でヒッコリー ゴルフの熱心な擁護者です。 「どれほど献身的なのですか?」と尋ねる人もいるかもしれない。彼は世界で唯一のヒッコリー ゴルフ小売店の 1 つを経営するほど献身的であり、故郷スコットランドと長年のつながりを持つ団体であるワールド ヒッコリー オープンとセント アンドリュース ゴルフ カンパニーをサポートする指導者でもあります。

    このエピソードでは、私はアレックスに、彼の生い立ち、日本での第二の人生(彼は何十年もそこで暮らし、働き、家族を育ててきた)、そして全国的なヒッコリー組織を47都道府県の9つの地域に拡大するまでに成長させるという課題について話します。この国には 2,300 以上のゴルフコースがあり、その中で最も古いもの (神戸ゴルフコース) は 1903 年に遡ります。2023 年 9 月 3 ~ 5 日にオーストラリアで初開催される、史上初のアジア PAC オープンについてもお話します。

    アレックスは一緒に時間を過ごすのが楽しい人で、私たちの会話から、なぜ彼の日本での取り組みが永続的な成功に終始しているのかが明らかになりました。

    • 1 hr 11 min
    Plus Four Podcast on Hickory Golf featuring Bert Coghill

    Plus Four Podcast on Hickory Golf featuring Bert Coghill

    One of the great things about national and international hickory golf events, is that one never knows whom one might meet along the way. In 2021, I flew out to Wisconsin to play in the Wisconsin Hickory Golfers Whistling Straights Hickory Challenge, as I had always wanted to see the course. Well, one of the nights, I ended up sitting at dinner with a table full of new friends I had never met before, one of whom—I came to learn—was Bert Coghill.



    “Coghill? Did you say?” Yes…that Coghill. 



    You see, Bert’s Great grandfather and his two brothers started Cog Hill Golf & Country Club outside of Chicago a few years before the Great Depression, and because of their keen abilities, they managed to keep the course open and thriving throughout the worst economic climate of the past 100 years. I learned that the hickory scene in Chicago is still fledgling, but with players like Bert, Peter Flory, and others sitting at the table, I knew I was in the presence of some serious talent.







    On a trip to Chicago in the spring of 2023, I decided to call Bert to see if I could learn more about his life in golf in the Chicago region.







    As a side note, this podcast is being released in June 2023. And as it happens, there is a completely engrossing and fascinating series out right now through The Fire Pit Collective, with Matt Ginella, detailing the so-called “Club Pro Crisis” which I highly recommend listening to, if you are not yet familiar with it. It is worth your time, and it is both comprehensive and extensive. Go to firepitcollective.com to find the full series which details the modern challenges with recruiting and retaining club professionals in today’s times.







    As I edited my discussion with Bert, I could not help but to draw parallels and connections to that series. You see, Bert grew up in golf, and spent his entire career in one region… 7 days a week, tending to his customers, the family’s course, Silver Lake Country Club, in Orland Park, Illinois, and immersed in the day-to-day events that have undoubtedly brought so much joy to his members and their guests.  Before arriving at his home, I drove up to the clubhouse and took in the scene. Silver Lake boasts 45 holes over three courses that the public can play, with a robust set of leagues, youth programs, and professional instruction. If you’re a hickory player, and will be in the Chicago area, I suggest you book a time and see this fantastic Club.

    • 46 min
    Collecting Golf with Jim McCormick

    Collecting Golf with Jim McCormick

    When I contacted Jim McCormick to see if he would allow me to view his heralded private collection in Chicago, he was explicit. "Budget three hours for the tour," he warned, "four to five, tops." I'm embarrassed to say that I stayed seven-and-one-half hours— taking him away from his charming wife, Laura, for far too much time—yet, we probably only explored less than half of his priceless items. If that weren’t enough, I sheepishly asked if I could come back before I flew home to the West Coast two days later, and he granted me an additional 2.5 hours in order to share his extensive documents collection, the majority of which is too extensive (and rare) to display.





    His isn't simply an impressive collection in golf, every item has a specific importance to the legacy of the game tied a definable event, a notable victory, the definitive origins of Scottish and English golfing societies, an exacting connection to a place, person, or a pivotal moment in time. Jim cares about history and the lives of those we can only now read about such as Vardon, Robertson, Park, Morris, Evans, Jones, Hogan, Barnes, Stranahan, and Locke, among scores of others. He cares for original works by Hodge, Rodger, Shortspoon, and Lees, among many others too…if you have to ask, you don’t know.
    We began our discussion in the salon of his 19th century brownstone in Chicago and wended our way into side rooms, display cases, cabinets, bookshelves, sitting rooms, bedrooms, and the home's entire upper floor. With an eye for detail, McCormick has every item labeled as well as recorded in a closely-guarded spreadsheet, documenting its source, provenance, sales price, date, and related references.
    Best of all, Jim still derives as much joy from his role as steward of the priceless collection and its continual evolution. In this episode, we speak of the thrill of the chase, the strategies that sometimes influence the sale of items at the top end of the global market, the doors his collecting passion has opened, and the advice that young collector's ought to heed when starting an initial collection in golf.

    • 1 hr 42 min
    The Plus Four Hickory Golf Podcast and The Ladies Golf Union

    The Plus Four Hickory Golf Podcast and The Ladies Golf Union

    The Ladies' Golf Union (LGU) was the original governing body for women's and girls' amateur golf in Great Britain and Ireland. It was founded in 1893 and was based in St. Andrews, Scotland until merging with The R&A in 2017.







    In this episode, Lauren Beatty, a Collaborative Doctorate Partnership student enrolled at Glasgow Caledonian University and working with the R&A World Golf Museum in St Andrews, discusses her oral history PhD project exploring women’s participation in club golf during the period 1945-1995. Beatty's research intends to explore women’s personal experiences of playing golf post Second World War in Scotland and aims to make these stories available to the public through the collections of the R&A World Golf Museum.



    Lauren's research blog can be found here.



    Finally, you can read about the R&A's Women in Golf Charter here.















    Images property of R&A World Golf Museum

    • 49 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
17 Ratings

17 Ratings

Kewlivs2golf ,

Love this podcast

I must for a hickory player, golf history or collector lover.

Siggy Sour ,

Looking forward to this new show!

Im into all golf period! Thanks for turning us on to a new/old style and some kickass history of an amazing game! :)

Steve in Ohio ,

Wonderful Podcasts!

I was so happy to find The Plus Four Podcast as I have collected hickory clubs / balls since the early 1980’s and play with hickories every chance I get. Your subject matter is right in my listening comfort zone!
I have had the pleasure of meeting John Capers and have had John Henry Williams repair clubs for me. Needless to say both very fine gentleman.
I look forward to future podcasts as Robert Birman has proven to be a great interviewer asking the questions I form in my mind as I listen.
Keep up the good work and you have won a passionate follower in me.

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