13 episodes

Zenon and Maddy, two hopelessly lost psychology majors, take listeners on a tour of the many fields of psychology through landmark experiments, pop culture, and interviews with experts in their fields. Whether you're curious about psychology as a career or just want to learn something new about the study of the mind, Pre-Occupied investigates the many disciplines of psych in an accessible, laid-back, and thought-provoking way. And maybe somewhere along the way, Maddy and Zenon will figure out what to do with their degrees!

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Zenon and Maddy, two hopelessly lost psychology majors, take listeners on a tour of the many fields of psychology through landmark experiments, pop culture, and interviews with experts in their fields. Whether you're curious about psychology as a career or just want to learn something new about the study of the mind, Pre-Occupied investigates the many disciplines of psych in an accessible, laid-back, and thought-provoking way. And maybe somewhere along the way, Maddy and Zenon will figure out what to do with their degrees!

    011: Assessment & Attachment with Dr. Laura Richardson

    011: Assessment & Attachment with Dr. Laura Richardson

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    • 1 hr 4 min
    010: Earning a PhD with Scott Greenspan

    010: Earning a PhD with Scott Greenspan

    Maddy and Zenon talk to Scott Greenspan, a candidate in the University of Massachusetts-Amherst's PhD program in School Psychology and doctoral intern at Harvard Medical School-Affiliate Judge Baker Children's Center. Scott reveals what it's like to be a doctoral student balancing research, employment, self-care, and his personal life. We also discuss the intersection of physical exercise, LBTQ+ issues, and implementation of research in education.

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    • 1 hr 2 min
    009: Projective Tests with Dr. Michelle Stein

    009: Projective Tests with Dr. Michelle Stein

    We got the opportunity to talk with Dr. Michelle Stein of Massachusetts General Hospital and Harvard Medical School, a practicing psychologist and professor of psychiatry. The interview focused on what it's like to work as a psychologist in a hospital setting, her work on the SCORS-G, and the use of projective tests in clinical assessment. 

    Here is the SCORS-G manual from which we read the TAT interpretations.

    If you're curious, here's card 1 of the TAT, which we discuss in the episode.

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    • 50 min
    008: Psychological Defenses with Dr. John Porcerelli

    008: Psychological Defenses with Dr. John Porcerelli

    Maddy, Zenon, and Dr. John Porcerelli discuss defense mechanisms—what they look like, how we use them, and why we use them. Dr. Porcerelli is an engaging, sharp, and incredibly knowledgeable professor of psychology at The University of Detroit Mercy, where he directs the psychology clinic. He shares his winding path from apathetic high school student to pro boxer to accomplished researcher, professor, and therapist! He enlightens us about the integral role of defense mechanisms in clinical treatment and in our everyday lives.

    In the interview, Dr. Porcerelli mentions this 1894 paper in which Freud introduces the idea of defenses, titled The Neuropsychoses of Defense. In our discussion, we talk about some of the many defense mechanisms that people employ to handle emotional stressors. This PDF, a 7-page excerpt from the DSM-IV, contains the Defense Mechanism Rating Scale and list of 33 defenses that Dr. Porcerelli mentions during the interview. You can find all of Dr. Porcerelli's research on defenses at his ResearchGate page.

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    • 58 min
    007: Social & Clinical Psychology with Dr. Jim Sexton

    007: Social & Clinical Psychology with Dr. Jim Sexton

    We got to interview Dr. Jim Sexton, who holds Ph.D.s in Clinical and Social Psychology. He's currently a professor at George Washington University's Psy.D. program and a practicing clinician. His answers lent insight into a wide range of topics within the fields of both his Ph.D.s, such as building rapport with clients, identifying subconscious biases in oneself as a clinician, and the hidden history of social psychology. 

    In our intro, we talked about mirror neurons. Here's a video of Dr. Giacomo Rizzolatti, one of the researchers who discovered the function of these neurons, talking about that discovery and how it came about. Here's an interesting TED Talk from Dr. Amy Cuddy about what body language we use to express feelings of power and how that can affect ourselves and those around us.

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    • 49 min
    006: Part 2 of Clinical Psychology with Ms. Andrea Broadwater

    006: Part 2 of Clinical Psychology with Ms. Andrea Broadwater

    This is the second half of our interview with Ms. Andrea Broadwater, a therapist from Ann Arbor, Michigan with experience in clinical research, crisis care, and independent practice. In this episode, Ms. Broadwater talks about setting boundaries in therapy, giving back, tele-mental health, and the future of therapy.

    In the discussion, we talk about transference and countertransference, the subtle differences between "patient" and "client," and our own thoughts on teletherapy. After sifting through several YouTube videos, we determined that this one is the best explanation of transference and countertransference on the Internet. Enjoy the episode!

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    • 50 min

Customer Reviews

Ibitayo Fadayomi ,

Unique and informative with a good splash of fun

It’s not often you get to hear the perspective of college students that exhibits such genuineness and depth. Maddy and Zennon do a fantastic job of facilitating quality dialogue, while keeping a the atmosphere light and humorous. Everyone interested in psychology should check this podcast out!

EveyPax ,

Five Stars

Interesting podcast with great guests. I laughed and I learned!

-Zenon- ,

Great insight into careers in psychology

I may be slightly biased, since mine is one of the voices you'll hear in these episodes. However, I really do believe this podcast is a great thing, and I'm benefiting from its content myself. These interviews put us across the desk from some amazing people, and we get to pick their brains for a half hour and bring it back to all of you!

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