The Psychedelic Podcast

Third Wave
The Psychedelic Podcast

The Psychedelic Podcast connects you to the leaders and pioneers of the psychedelic renaissance. From deep healing to creativity, leadership to spirituality, business, health, human performance, relationships, sexuality, and even culture itself—every aspect of our world is being transformed by psychedelic medicines. Get an inspired, informed, balanced look into how these powerful medicines are already being safely and responsibly used to catalyze both personal and collective transformation. Whether you’re just curious or a seasoned psychonaut, or somewhere in between, you’ll get insightful, practical, cutting-edge conversations from the forefront of the psychedelic movement. Join us as we explore how psychedelics can be integrated into culture for the evolution of humanity.

  1. Carlos Tanner - From Rock Bottom to Rainforest: A Journey of Ayahuasca Mastery

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    Carlos Tanner - From Rock Bottom to Rainforest: A Journey of Ayahuasca Mastery

    In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Carlos Tanner, founder and director of the Ayahuasca Foundation in Iquitos, Peru. Find full show notes and links here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-277-carlos-tanner/?ref=278  Carlos shares his transformative journey from addiction to becoming an apprentice of master shaman Don Juan Tangoa Paima, leading to the creation of the Ayahuasca Foundation in 2009. He discusses the integration of Western educational approaches with ancestral healing traditions, the foundation's groundbreaking research on ayahuasca's effects on PTSD, and his vision for bridging indigenous wisdom with modern psychedelic therapy. Carlos Tanner has been studying ayahuasca and plant medicine in the Amazon Rainforest since 2003. As the director of the Ayahuasca Foundation, which he founded in 2009 in Iquitos, Peru, Carlos organizes healing retreats and educational courses led by indigenous curanderos. These programs help people heal from conditions ranging from depression to cancer or learn about Amazonian ancestral healing traditions. Since 2017, the Ayahuasca Foundation has partnered with Onaya Science to research the ayahuasca tradition’s effects on depression, anxiety, and trauma. The research has led to over a dozen published articles showing significant reductions in depression and anxiety symptoms, along with improvements in PTSD, chronic pain, and other health issues. Highlights: Journey from depression and addiction to discovering ayahuasca in Peru The transformative experience of his first ayahuasca ceremonies Background on Don Juan Tangoa Paima and his unique multicultural lineage Development of structured educational programs for ayahuasca training Discussion of the art form approach to plant medicine Evolution of the Ayahuasca Foundation over 15 years The importance of spirit relationships in healing work Research on ayahuasca and PTSD Ayahuasca's potential effects on PTSD and childhood trauma Episode Sponsor: The Practitioner Certification Program by Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute.

    1 h
  2. Stephanie Karzon Abrams - Desynchronize the Brain: A Neuropharmacologist's Take on Psychedelics

    11 NOV

    Stephanie Karzon Abrams - Desynchronize the Brain: A Neuropharmacologist's Take on Psychedelics

    In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Stephanie Karzon Abrams, a neuropharmacologist and founding advisor of Beyond Consulting. Find full show notes and links here:  https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-276-stephanie-karzon-abrams With her unique background spanning clinical pharmacology, corporate healthcare, and the music industry, Stephanie shares insights on the intersection of psychedelic science, integrative medicine, and community building. She discusses the transformative potential of psychedelics from a neuropharmacological perspective, her work supporting ketamine clinics and plant medicine brands, as well as her journey from traditional healthcare to pioneering innovative approaches in the psychedelic space. Stephanie Karzon Abrams, a neuropharmacologist with a Masters of Science in Clinical Pharmacology, is the founding advisor of Beyond Consulting, providing science, research, operations, and strategy solutions to organizations in the natural product, plant medicine, and psychedelic sectors. Her career spans from clinical research and Johnson & Johnson to pioneering innovative healthcare approaches. Beyond her scientific work, she co-creates community initiatives including Public Secret music label and Mt. Mushmore educational dinner series. As a prescriber for MDMA and psilocybin therapy through Canada's Special Access Program and scientific advisor for the Microdosing Collective, she champions the integration of cutting-edge therapeutic approaches with traditional healthcare. Her work focuses on bridging scientific expertise with strategic thinking to advance innovative healthcare solutions. Highlights: Origins of Public Secret record label and global groove music collective Rich cultural background and journey from Montreal to California Stephanie breaks down clinical psychopharmacology Mount Mushmore Transition from J&J to psychedelic medicine consulting Stephanie's firm, Beyond Consulting Supporting ketamine clinics and integrative medicine centers Deep dive into neuropharmacology of psychedelics vs traditional medications Microdosing applications for ADHD and anxiety Importance of lifestyle changes alongside psychedelic protocols Managing work-life balance in the psychedelic industry Links: Beyond Consulting Public Secret Music Label Microdosing Collective Episode Sponsors: The Practitioner Certification Program by Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute.

    57 min
  3. Paul Karasik - From Commune to Corporate: A Psychedelic Leadership Journey

    6 NOV

    Paul Karasik - From Commune to Corporate: A Psychedelic Leadership Journey

    In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Paul Karasik, a pioneering figure in both corporate leadership and psychedelic spaces. Find full show notes and links here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-275-paul-karasik/?ref=278 Karasik shares his remarkable journey from co-founding Thompson's Ranch commune in Joshua Tree to becoming one of America's leading sales consultants. He discusses his recent book "Getting High on Leadership" and explores how psychedelics can transform leadership through heart-centered approaches. The conversation weaves through themes of community building, conscious business practices, and the vital intersection of higher consciousness with modern leadership principles. Paul Karasik brings decades of experience in the world of psychedelics. He was a member of the early psychedelic community in New York and California, which included such luminaries as Timothy Leary and Ram Dass. Paul co-founded Thompson's Ranch, one of the first alternative communities in Joshua Tree, CA. His ninth and most recent book, published in 2024 is "Getting High on Leadership: The Leader’s Guide to Higher Consciousness". Paul and the Psychedelic Institute of Los Angeles are dedicated to making information and safe access available to anyone and everyone who is seeking to awaken their consciousness. Highlights: Founding Thompson's Ranch: From Haight-Ashbury to Joshua Tree Why the 60s missed the healing potential of psychedelics Health crisis catalyzes spiritual transformation in Brazil Creating with intention How compassionate leadership drives business success Building psychedelic community Collaborating with Cypress Hill's B-Real for Awakening 2024 Episode Sponsor: The Practitioner Certification Program by Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute.

    50 min
  4. Kat Courtney - Divine Duet: Ayahuasca, San Pedro, & Plant Medicine Integration

    28 OCT

    Kat Courtney - Divine Duet: Ayahuasca, San Pedro, & Plant Medicine Integration

    In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Kat Courtney, a plant medicine pioneer with over 15 years of experience as a psychedelic integration coach. Kat shares her journey from struggling with mental health issues to finding healing through ayahuasca. She discusses the complementary relationship between ayahuasca and huachuma (San Pedro), the practice of master plant dietas, and her approach to psychedelic integration. Kat emphasizes the importance of intention, slowing down, and developing a daily spiritual practice for integrating ayahuasca experiences. Tina “Kat” Courtney is a Plant Medicine pioneer with 2 decades of professional psychedelic experience. She’s the author of Plant Medicine Mystery School Vol 1: The Superhero Healing Powers of Psychotropic Plants, and she’s a traditionally trained Ayahuasquera and Huachumera. Kat’s also been working as a Psychedelic Integration Coach for 15 years, and is the CEO and Co-Founder of Plant Medicine People. Her entire life is devoted to helping humans discover the power of being in relationship with plant spirits. Highlights: Kat's personal transformation through ayahuasca Ayahuasca and huachuma: divine feminine and masculine Master plant dietas: isolated vs. social approaches Intention and reverence in plant medicine work Essential practices for ayahuasca integration Overview of Kat's themed retreat offerings Episode Links: Plant Medicine People: https://plantmedicinepeople.com Kat's personal website: https://afterlife.coach Third Wave’s Microdosing Experience: https://thethirdwave.co/sp/microdosing-experience/?ref=250   Third Wave's directory: https://thethirdwave.co/directory/?ref=250 Episode Sponsors: The Practitioner Certification Program by Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute.

    55 min
  5. Susannah Rose Stokes - From Marine to Mystic: A Journey of Psychedelic Metamorphosis

    24 OCT

    Susannah Rose Stokes - From Marine to Mystic: A Journey of Psychedelic Metamorphosis

    In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Susannah Rose Stokes, co-founder of Metamorphosis Ventures. Click here for full show notes, links, & summary: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-273?ref=278  Susannah shares her remarkable journey from Marine Corps officer to embodied priestess and psychedelic guide. She discusses her transformative experiences with plant medicines, the importance of integration, and her mission to create supportive containers for psychedelic healing. Susannah explores the concept of metamorphosis, balancing microdosing and macrodosing protocols, and her approach to guiding others through profound personal change. After serving in two combat tours in Afghanistan as a Marine Corps Officer, Susannah experienced a spiritual awakening that changed her life forever. Since then, she’s dedicated her life as an Energy Priestess and Embodied Consciousness Guide. She’s served dozens of people in 1:1 and group ceremonies, guiding them in their own spiritual awakening process. She co-founded House of Embodied Metamorphosis, a 508c1a Faith- Based Organization that utilizes The Metamorphosis Method and their proprietary strain of psilocybin to facilitate powerful personal transformations through retreats and coaching programs. She authored Entheogenerated, a comprehensive research study on existing research of psychedelics and their capacity to create individual and collective change. She holds a Master's in Transformative Social Change, is a graduate of the US Naval Academy and speaks Mandarin Chinese and Spanish, all in service to creating more peace and connection. As a changemaker, Susannah weaves ancient and modern techniques, paving a path for fellow leaders to create transformation toward a world full of trust, co-creation and abundance for all. Highlights: Susannah's journey from the Marine Corps to plant medicine facilitation The transformative power of San Pedro ceremonies Shifting from warrior for war to warrior for peace The meaning and challenges of personal metamorphosis Balancing microdosing and macrodosing protocols The concept of the embodied priestess Founding Metamorphosis Ventures and The Metamorphosis Method Episode Links: Metamorphosis Ventures Susannah on Instagram Episode Sponsors: The Practitioner Certification Program by Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute.

    55 min
  6. Dave Schoof - Practitioner Spotlight: Emergent Leadership in the Psychedelic Era

    18 OCT

    Dave Schoof - Practitioner Spotlight: Emergent Leadership in the Psychedelic Era

    In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Dave Schoof, a master certified coach and international leadership consultant. Find full show notes and links here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-272?ref=278 Dave shares his journey from working in intelligence to becoming a leadership coach, and how he eventually incorporated psychedelics into his practice. He discusses the power of integral theory in organizational development, the importance of emergence and unfolding in leadership, and how psychedelics can catalyze personal growth and leadership transformation. Dave also reflects on his experience in the Psychedelic Coaching Institute’s Practitioner Training Program, and offers insights on the future of leadership in our complex world. Dave Schoof is an international leadership consultant specializing in helping leaders and teams build on their capabilities and move to the next level of performance and effectiveness. With over 25 years of experience across corporate, non-profit, and government sectors, Dave works with clients globally. He is a master-certified coach from the International Coach Federation and Integral Coaching Canada. Dave's background includes a 20-year career in the intelligence community. A long-time meditator, he enjoys finding practical ways to operationalize wisdom from various traditions into his work with leaders. Dave lives near Lausanne, Switzerland, where he enjoys hiking and photography. Highlights: Dave's journey to Switzerland Dave's background in intelligence and transition to leadership coaching The development and impact of integral theory How psychedelics found Dave and their potential for leadership development The importance of nervous system regulation and safety in psychedelic experiences Dave's transformative experience at the Brave Earth retreat The evolving landscape of psychedelic acceptance in leadership circles The need for a new paradigm of leadership in the face of global challenges Episode Links: Dave on LinkedIn The Psychedelic Coaching Institute’s Practitioner Training Program

    50 min
  7. (Bonus) Visionary Leadership: Revolutionize Executive Coaching Through Psychedelics

    14 OCT

    (Bonus) Visionary Leadership: Revolutionize Executive Coaching Through Psychedelics

    In this special bonus episode, we’re sharing a replay of our recent live webinar, “Visionary Leadership: Revolutionizing Executive Coaching with Psychedelics.” Paul F. Austin is joined by two expert guests: Dr. Amy Albright - An executive coach and intuitive who combines science-driven methodology with intuitive knowing. She has worked with companies valued from $10M to $3B and has a background in cognitive psychology and Chinese medicine. Eric Kaufmann - An executive coach and author who blends business expertise with Zen wisdom. He mentors CEOs and executives through leadership challenges and is a Fellow at Harvard's Institute of Coaching. The conversation explores how psychedelics and altered states of consciousness can enhance leadership development and executive coaching. Paul, Dr. Amy, and Eric dive into intersection of business, spirituality, and altered states of consciousness. They also explore using neurofeedback and meditation to complement psychedelic experiences, integrating psychedelic insights into corporate environments, and much more.  Highlights: Amy shares her background and experience with altered states of consciousness Amy’s approach to executive coaching Eric’s perspective on altered states vs. altered traits of consciousness Neurofeedback and meditation as complementary practices to psychedelics Insights on integrating psychedelic experiences into corporate environments Perspectives on bringing feminine energy into business leadership Episode Sponsor: KA! Empathogenics Kanna Supplements. Get 10% off with code THIRDWAVE at checkout The Practitioner Certification Program by Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute.

    51 min
  8. Christi Myers - Ketamine Consciousness: Unlocking the Observer Within

    7 OCT

    Christi Myers - Ketamine Consciousness: Unlocking the Observer Within

    In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Christi Myers, founder and CEO of Flow Integrative. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-270-christi-myers/?ref=278 Christi shares her journey from emergency medicine to pioneering ketamine-assisted therapy protocols. She discusses the science behind ketamine's effects on the brain, her work developing standards for ketamine therapy with Dr. Bronner's, and her vision for expanding access to this transformative treatment. Christi offers insights on responsible implementation of ketamine therapy and how it can be integrated with other healing modalities. Christi Myers, the visionary Founder and CEO of Flow Integrative, has charted an inspiring path of transformation. With nearly two decades of experience as a Paramedic, she has made significant contributions to renowned organizations including the Department of Defense, American Medical Response, Air Methods, San Bernardino County Fire and Sheriff Department, and the Department of Justice. Motivated by her firsthand experience with the mental health challenges that often plague first responders, and her own journey through PTSD, Myers founded Flow Integrative in 2020. The organization’s mission is to destigmatize and expand access to psychedelic therapies, offering tools for growth, symptom relief, and holistic well-being, with a particular focus on frontline workers dealing with complex trauma. Highlights: Christi's background in emergency medicine and as an educator How ketamine works in the brain and impacts the default mode network Developing ketamine therapy protocols for Dr. Bronner's employees Combining ketamine with other healing modalities like PEMF and red light therapy Safety considerations and contraindications for ketamine therapy Christi's vision for empowering more practitioners to offer ketamine therapy Episode Sponsor: KA! Empathogenics Kanna Supplements. Get 10% off with code THIRDWAVE at checkout The Practitioner Certification Program by Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute.

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The Psychedelic Podcast connects you to the leaders and pioneers of the psychedelic renaissance. From deep healing to creativity, leadership to spirituality, business, health, human performance, relationships, sexuality, and even culture itself—every aspect of our world is being transformed by psychedelic medicines. Get an inspired, informed, balanced look into how these powerful medicines are already being safely and responsibly used to catalyze both personal and collective transformation. Whether you’re just curious or a seasoned psychonaut, or somewhere in between, you’ll get insightful, practical, cutting-edge conversations from the forefront of the psychedelic movement. Join us as we explore how psychedelics can be integrated into culture for the evolution of humanity.

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