SaaS Backwards - Reverse Engineering SaaS Success

Ken Lempit
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Join us as we interview CEOs and GTM leaders of fast-growing SaaS and AI firms to reveal what they are doing that’s working, and lessons learned from things that didn’t work as planned. These deep conversations dive into the dynamic world of SaaS B2B marketing, go-to-market strategies, and the SaaS business model. Content focuses on the pragmatic as well as strategic, providing a well-rounded diet for those running SaaS firms today. Hosted by Ken Lempit, Austin Lawrence Group’s president and chief business builder, who brings over 30 years of experience and expertise in helping software companies grow and their founders achieve their visions. Full video and shorts on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/@SaaSBackwardsPodcast

  1. 1D AGO

    Ep. 184 - Why Traditional SaaS GTM Collapses in a Self-Service World

    Send us a text Guest: Dave Boyce, Executive Chairman & EVP of Product at Winning by Design  --   Most SaaS companies are still built to sell. Today’s buyers want to activate, experience value, and decide on their own. In this episode, Dave Boyce, Executive Chairman and EVP of Product at Winning by Design, joins host Ken Lempit to explain why SaaS GTM is shifting from lead handoffs to self-service activation, AI-driven automation, and system-based growth. Dave shares why PLG isn’t about removing humans, but focusing them on higher-value work — while usage-based pricing and automation blur the line between acquisition, onboarding, and expansion. He also challenges traditional planning models, arguing that people don’t scale, systems do. Key takeaways: Activation is replacing lead handoffs in SaaS growthPLG and AI redefine when humans should engageUsage-based pricing lowers friction and builds habitSystems, not headcount, unlock scaleIf you’re a SaaS leader rethinking GTM for an AI-driven, self-service world, this episode delivers a practical, no-hype perspective. --- Not Getting Enough Demos? Your messaging could be turning buyers away before you even get a chance to pitch. 🔗 Get a Free Messaging & Conversion Review We’ll analyze your website and content through the eyes of your buyers to uncover what’s stopping them from booking a demo. Then, we’ll give you a personalized report with practical recommendations to help you turn more visitors into sales conversations. And the best part? 💡 It’s completely free. No commitments, no pressure—just actionable advice to help you book more demos. Your next demo is just a click away—claim your free review now.

    35 min

  2. 12/19/2025

    Ep. 183 - What $100M SaaS Companies Do Differently

    Send us a text Guest: David Karandish, Founder & CEO of Capacity   --   Most SaaS companies don’t fail because the technology is bad. They fail because they build point solutions, chase the wrong markets, and struggle to turn AI into real, scalable value. In this episode, David Karandish, Founder & CEO of Capacity, joins host Ken Lempit to share how his team scaled past 20,000 customers and toward $100M+ in revenue by evolving from an AI point solution into a full SaaS platform for support and contact centers. David breaks down the pivots behind that growth, why mid-market SaaS often stalls, and how the compound startup model is reshaping modern SaaS — not by doing more, but by integrating smarter. Key takeaways from this episode: Why many AI SaaS products fail before reaching enterprise scaleThe difference between “salad” vs. “brownie” AI projectsHow platform consolidation creates GTM and pricing leverageWhy GTM motion must align with deal sizeHow integration becomes the true SaaS moatIf you’re a B2B SaaS founder, CRO, or CMO navigating AI adoption, platform strategy, or the leap from mid-market to enterprise, this episode offers a grounded playbook for building durable SaaS growth—without the hype. --- Not Getting Enough Demos? Your messaging could be turning buyers away before you even get a chance to pitch. 🔗 Get a Free Messaging & Conversion Review We’ll analyze your website and content through the eyes of your buyers to uncover what’s stopping them from booking a demo. Then, we’ll give you a personalized report with practical recommendations to help you turn more visitors into sales conversations. And the best part? 💡 It’s completely free. No commitments, no pressure—just actionable advice to help you book more demos. Your next demo is just a click away—claim your free review now.

    32 min

  3. 12/05/2025

    Ep. 182 - What Most SaaS Founders Get Wrong About Go-to-Market

    Send us a text Guest: Prasanth Chilukuri, Co-Founder & Managing Partner at Soul Street Ventures  --  The biggest threat to early-stage SaaS growth isn’t competition. It’s founder distraction, unfocused GTM motions, and chasing quick wins instead of building a real business. In this episode, Prasanth Chilukuri, co-founder and managing partner of Soul Street Ventures, joins host Ken Lempit to reveal why most early-stage SaaS companies struggle long before product issues surface — and how disciplined strategy, a tight ICP, and hands-on founder coaching unlock meaningful, scalable traction. Drawing on his experience both as a SaaS founder (Tekmetric) and investor, Prasanth explains why “scale with soul” isn’t just a mantra, but a framework for building durable companies that don’t rely on hype, vanity channels, or coast-driven valuation games. Key takeaways from this episode: Why misaligned ICPs and GTM distractions quietly stall early-stage SaaSHow to test, retest, and refine GTM motions using real customer behaviorWhy AI discoverability is reshaping marketing efficiency (and what to do about it)How venture style differs across regions — and why it matters for foundersWhy founder coachability, discipline, and mindset are the strongest predictors of growthHow unique SaaS data assets create new value (and why most companies underuse them)If you’re a B2B SaaS founder, CRO, or CMO navigating early-stage go-to-market, evaluating AI’s impact on your product, or preparing for institutional capital, this episode offers a practical, grounded playbook for building a company that truly lasts. --- Not Getting Enough Demos? Your messaging could be turning buyers away before you even get a chance to pitch. 🔗 Get a Free Messaging & Conversion Review We’ll analyze your website and content through the eyes of your buyers to uncover what’s stopping them from booking a demo. Then, we’ll give you a personalized report with practical recommendations to help you turn more visitors into sales conversations. And the best part? 💡 It’s completely free. No commitments, no pressure—just actionable advice to help you book more demos. Your next demo is just a click away—claim your free review now.

    37 min

  4. 11/21/2025

    Ep. 181 - How Fast-Growing SaaS Companies Are Modernizing Their Revenue Stack

    Send us a text Guest: Mark Walker, CEO at Nue.io  --  SaaS pricing isn’t breaking because of AI — it’s breaking because most revenue systems were never built for the speed and complexity of today’s models. In this episode, Mark Walker, CEO of Nue.io, joins host Ken Lempit to unpack why modern SaaS and AI companies are abandoning legacy CPQ and billing stacks for a flexible, unified revenue infrastructure built for rapid change. Key highlights: Why legacy CPQ + billing can’t support modern SaaS pricingHow committed consumption + bank-billed models are reshaping monetizationWhy speed of configuration is now a GTM advantageWhat RevOps must rethink as pricing experiments explodeHow elite teams thrive on hard problems and high-velocity executionIf you’re a B2B SaaS founder, CRO, CMO, or RevOps leader navigating complex pricing models, upgrading your revenue stack, or preparing for next-gen AI monetization, this conversation will change how you think about scaling. --- Not Getting Enough Demos? Your messaging could be turning buyers away before you even get a chance to pitch. 🔗 Get a Free Messaging & Conversion Review We’ll analyze your website and content through the eyes of your buyers to uncover what’s stopping them from booking a demo. Then, we’ll give you a personalized report with practical recommendations to help you turn more visitors into sales conversations. And the best part? 💡 It’s completely free. No commitments, no pressure—just actionable advice to help you book more demos. Your next demo is just a click away—claim your free review now.

    33 min

  5. 10/31/2025

    Ep. 180 - Your SaaS Buyer Doesn’t Need Convincing—They Need Confidence

    Send us a text Guest: Brent Adamson, Co-Author of The Framemaking Sale & Co-Founder of A to B Insight SaaS sales teams obsess over beating competitors—but the real battle isn’t across the table. It’s in the buyer’s mind. In this episode, Brent Adamson—co-author of The Challenger Sale and The Challenger Customer and Co-Founder of A to B Insight—joins host Ken Lempit to reveal why most SaaS deals are lost to no decision at all, and how his new book, The Framemaking Sale, helps buyers build the confidence to act.  Brent explains how the sales playbook has evolved from “teach them what to think” to “help them trust themselves”—and why the future of B2B growth depends on changing how we sell, not what we sell. Key insights from this episode: Why no decision—not competitors—is killing SaaS dealsHow to turn buyer anxiety into deal confidenceWhy “trusted advisor” means helping customers trust themselvesHow marketing and sales can guide smarter, faster SaaS buyingThe mindset shift every B2B sales leader needs nowIf you’re a B2B SaaS CRO, CMO, or founder looking to increase close rates, reenergize your go-to-market, and win against the status quo, this conversation will change how you think about selling. --- Not Getting Enough Demos? Your messaging could be turning buyers away before you even get a chance to pitch. 🔗 Get a Free Messaging & Conversion Review We’ll analyze your website and content through the eyes of your buyers to uncover what’s stopping them from booking a demo. Then, we’ll give you a personalized report with practical recommendations to help you turn more visitors into sales conversations. And the best part? 💡 It’s completely free. No commitments, no pressure—just actionable advice to help you book more demos. Your next demo is just a click away—claim your free review now.

    37 min

  6. 10/17/2025

    Ep. 179 - The Smart SaaS Funding Path No One Talks About

    Send us a text Guest: Melanie Nabar, Vice President at Volition Capital  --  SaaS founders often see only two funding paths—venture or private equity—but there’s a smarter middle lane that keeps control where it belongs: with the founder. In this episode, Melanie Nabar, Vice President on the Software Team at Volition Capital, joins host Ken Lempit to unpack how growth equity works, when it’s the right fit, and the scale-up mistakes that stall promising SaaS companies. Key insights from this episode: Why growth equity can fuel SaaS scale without losing controlThe biggest post-funding hiring mistake founders makeHow AI is reshaping go-to-market efficiency in SaaSIf you’re a B2B SaaS CMO, CRO, or founder navigating scale-up challenges, funding strategy, or go-to-market transformation, this episode will help you see where real growth capital fits—and how to make it work for you. --- Not Getting Enough Demos? Your messaging could be turning buyers away before you even get a chance to pitch. 🔗 Get a Free Messaging & Conversion Review We’ll analyze your website and content through the eyes of your buyers to uncover what’s stopping them from booking a demo. Then, we’ll give you a personalized report with practical recommendations to help you turn more visitors into sales conversations. And the best part? 💡 It’s completely free. No commitments, no pressure—just actionable advice to help you book more demos. Your next demo is just a click away—claim your free review now.

    37 min

  7. 10/03/2025

    Ep. 178 - Why SaaS Founders Give Up Too Much Too Soon

    Send us a text Guest: Rob Belcher, Managing Director at SaaS Capital  --  SaaS founders often think equity is the only path to growth—but giving up ownership isn’t the only option. In this episode, Rob Belcher, Managing Director at SaaS Capital, joins host Ken Lempit to break down how growth debt works, what investors really look for in valuations, and how B2B SaaS leaders can finance smart without losing control. Key insights from this episode: Why growth debt can fund SaaS expansion without heavy dilutionThe financing ladder every founder should understand—from angels to private equityHow valuation multiples are shifting and what drives them higherThe role of clean contracts, retention, and growth rate in exit outcomesWhy AI is creating a “priced for perfection” split in SaaS valuationsIf you’re a B2B SaaS CMO or CRO navigating fundraising, growth efficiency, or exit strategy, this episode will help you sharpen your playbook. --- Not Getting Enough Demos? Your messaging could be turning buyers away before you even get a chance to pitch. 🔗 Get a Free Messaging & Conversion Review We’ll analyze your website and content through the eyes of your buyers to uncover what’s stopping them from booking a demo. Then, we’ll give you a personalized report with practical recommendations to help you turn more visitors into sales conversations. And the best part? 💡 It’s completely free. No commitments, no pressure—just actionable advice to help you book more demos. Your next demo is just a click away—claim your free review now.

    36 min

  8. 09/05/2025

    Ep. 177 - Why “Book a Demo” Is Killing SaaS Growth

    Send us a text Guest: Braydan Young, Co-Founder and CEO at SlashExperts  --  Buyers don’t want another “book a demo” button—they want proof from people like them. In this episode, Braydan Young, Co-Founder and CEO of SlashExperts (and previously co-founder of Sendoso), joins host Ken Lempit to share how buyer-led growth is reshaping SaaS sales and why the old way of running references at the end of the deal cycle is broken. Key insights from this episode: Why moving customer references earlier can shorten sales cycles by 4–6 weeksHow authentic peer conversations double conversion rates compared to demosWhat CROs can learn from Sendoso’s hypergrowth—and its “we grew too fast” momentWhy handwritten notes and simple gifts outperform flashy, expensive onesHow to turn the “dark funnel” into a competitive advantageIf you’re a B2B SaaS CMO or CRO looking to accelerate pipeline, increase deal size, and close faster with fewer wasted demos, this episode is a must-listen. --- Not Getting Enough Demos? Your messaging could be turning buyers away before you even get a chance to pitch. 🔗 Get a Free Messaging & Conversion Review We’ll analyze your website and content through the eyes of your buyers to uncover what’s stopping them from booking a demo. Then, we’ll give you a personalized report with practical recommendations to help you turn more visitors into sales conversations. And the best part? 💡 It’s completely free. No commitments, no pressure—just actionable advice to help you book more demos. Your next demo is just a click away—claim your free review now.

    33 min
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Join us as we interview CEOs and GTM leaders of fast-growing SaaS and AI firms to reveal what they are doing that’s working, and lessons learned from things that didn’t work as planned. These deep conversations dive into the dynamic world of SaaS B2B marketing, go-to-market strategies, and the SaaS business model. Content focuses on the pragmatic as well as strategic, providing a well-rounded diet for those running SaaS firms today. Hosted by Ken Lempit, Austin Lawrence Group’s president and chief business builder, who brings over 30 years of experience and expertise in helping software companies grow and their founders achieve their visions. Full video and shorts on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/@SaaSBackwardsPodcast

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