Securing Data in the AI Era: Jeff Deverter's Business-First Approach

Code to Cloud

This episode features an interview with Jeff DeVerter, Chief Technology Evangelist managed cloud computing company Rackspace. He has over 25 years of experience in IT and technology, and has worked at Rackspace Technology since 2008.  Over his career, Jeff has helped companies like American Express, Ralph Lauren, and Thomson Reuters create and execute against multi-year digital transformation strategies. And on this episode, Jeff and host Tim Chase discuss how to navigate an excessive amount of data due to the popular use of AI, why security by obscurity is ineffective, and aligning day-to-day security duties with business goals.

Key Quotes

*”In security, we're looking for that needle in the haystack. We're trying to find that one little bit of behavior that’s different today than it was yesterday and that could be an indicator. Well, there's so much data these days, it's like finding a needle in a needle stack. And I think that the only way for security professionals to be able to do their job in the future given the extreme amount of data that exists and is growing is through AI. Machine learning and AI.”

*”AI in 2024 becomes the co-employee. If we're doing it right, it really is filling that seat next to the brilliant security individual or whatever the department might be, who sits next to them to help them be better, more intelligent, more efficient at the things that they do.”

*”So much of security, especially as it related to the knowledge worker, was security by obscurity. It's over on this shared drive. It's 15 folders deep. Nobody even knows that it exists, let alone to go and parse it. And all of a sudden, some indexer goes and rolls through the thing and now you type in, for example, the year pay raises or reporting structure or something along these lines that they thought was very secure, but it wasn't secure and now it’s exposed. And now we have that problem on steroids as all of these groups start to bring together all of their data so that Gen AI can provide this value, we're finding that more and more of that security was by obscurity or other less efficient methods that ultimately then creates challenges.”

*”’The CISO has to have a relationship with every aspect of the business to understand what's happening. And they have to realize that they're not the scary people who have been hiding back in the SOC. And you'd never want to get an email from security because you only get an email when something bad has happened or you've done something accidentally bad. So you have to break that stigma. Same for the legal team, by the way, they've got to be in this as well, but it starts with amazing relationships. And if they don't exist, they've got to get built.“

*”IT leaders. Are you hands on keyboard? No. Do you need to know everything about that technology to know what's possible and capable of your people? Yes.”

Time Stamps

[0:32] Introducing Jeff DeVerter, Chief Technology Evangelist at Rackspace

[3:20] How is generative AI impacting cybersecurity?

[13:49] What are the risks posed by generative AI to cybersecurity?

[16:42] How can security professionals put limits on generative AI and secure it?

[22:21] How is security a business enabler

[26:56] What’s the most important habit an IT leader can have?

[28:52] How can listeners increase their cybersecurity?

Links

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