Bubble Trouble: Laying Out Inconvenient Truths About How Business and Financial Markets Really Work

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Bubble Trouble: Laying Out Inconvenient Truths About How Business and Financial Markets Really Work
BUBBLE TROUBLE

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Bubble Trouble features conversations between economist and author Will Page and independent analyst Richard Kramer that lay out some inconvenient truths about how financial markets really work. Like the “boy who cried wolf,” financial markets have a peculiar tendency to repeat past mistakes and get themselves into “bubble trouble.” They party hard, drink too much of the Kool Aid, and wake up with a pounding hangover...only to do the same thing the next day. With tech dominating daily headlines and teenage traders driving stocks to unprecedented valuations, you might be asking “What’s really going on?” “What am I missing?” Imagine having a set of tour guides to tell you the “story behind the story” of the world’s largest tech companies, and how they bend - or break - the rules of economics. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  1. -6 J

    Fiscal Drag Queen

    This week, we’re talking taxes. Don’t switch off, don’t fall asleep and please don’t hire an accountant as the next 45 minutes will defy the laws of gravity and make taxes sexy. Or make saxes testy…  [Repeat from March, 2024.] Mentioned in today’s show: Barbarians at the Gate: https://youtu.be/Z3HiONtjZSM?si=xZ64zb46sYIfSs5Z For more on Bubble Trouble, including transcripts of the show, visit us online at http://bubbletroublepodcast.com You can learn more about Richard at https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-kramer-16306b2/ More on Will Page at: https://pivotaleconomics.com (Times below correspond to the episode without considering any inserted advertisements.) In this engaging episode of Bubble Trouble, hosts Richard Kramer and Will Page explore the complex world of taxes with humor and depth. They discuss the UK's tax system, the incentives it creates, and its contribution to economic inequalities. The duo delves into the problems of the tax code, including issues surrounding tax avoidance by the wealthy, lack of public sector productivity improvements, and the inefficiencies within the HMRC. Kramer and Page critique the approach of privatizing public utilities and the potential problems with private equity in the public sector. They also touch on broader issues like the lack of investment in tax authority systems and propose using tax policies for positive changes, like encouraging the shift from petrol to electric cars in Denmark. Through their insightful conversation, Kramer and Page aim to demystify taxes and highlight their significant impact on society. 00:00 Introduction 00:46 Part One 00:51 The UK's Budget Week and Tax System Insights 01:48 Tax Evasion vs. Public Sector Productivity 02:46 The Inequality of Tax Codes: A Global Issue 04:03 Tax System Flaws and Their Impact on Society 07:22 VAT: The Taxpayer as Tax Collector 11:31 The Complexity of National Insurance 13:43 Simplifying Tax Systems: A Call for Transparency 16:28 Private Equity and Tax Systems: A New Challenge 22:39 Decoding the Fiscal Drag Queen 23:00 The Political Divide on Taxation 23:21 Economic Lecture: Tax Burden and Growth 25:07 The Impact of Fiscal Drag on Tax Bands 26:15 The Surprising Windfall from Fiscal Drag 27:22 Part Two 27:45 Exploring the World of Private Equity 28:51 The Tax Loopholes Fueling Private Equity 32:24 The Potential Bubble in Public Utilities 36:26 The Disconnect Between Tax Policy and Reality 43:58 A Positive Tax Example from Denmark 47:28 Credits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    48 min

  2. 11 NOV.

    Sonic Shifts: How Tech and Culture are Changing the Music Industry with Mark Mulligan

    This week we welcome Mark Mulligan of MIDiA Research who has had a ringside seat for years and years of bubbles, be it the creator economy, NFTs or AI music, or just everyone claiming they are gaining market share at the same time. He is the founder and driving force behind the tiny little company that an entire industry looks to as the source of truth. For more on Bubble Trouble, including transcripts of the show, visit us online at http://bubbletroublepodcast.com You can learn more about Richard at https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-kramer-16306b2/ More on Will Page at: https://pivotaleconomics.com (Times below correspond to the episode without considering any inserted advertisements.) In this episode of Bubble Trouble, hosts Richard Kramer and Will Page are joined by Mark Mulligan, a leading music industry analyst and founder of MIDiA Research. They delve into the intricate world of the music industry, discussing the evolution from digital streaming to the rise of new phenomena such as NFTs and AI in music. The trio explores the concept of bifurcation in markets and the distinction between high-end experiences versus bargain deals within the industry. The conversation also touches on the significant cultural shifts, the role of trade associations, and the future of personalized music experiences. Despite the optimism around technology, the hosts remain critical of mainstream narratives, emphasizing the importance of genuine innovation and realistic market assessments. This insightful and provocative discussion is a must-listen for anyone interested in the intersection of music, technology, and finance. 00:00 Introduction to Bubble Trouble 01:02 Welcoming Special Guest Mark Mulligan 01:26 Mark Mulligan's Background and Insights 02:34 The Evolution of Music Supply 04:20 The Democratization of Music Creation 06:13 AI and the Future of Music 12:16 Fragmentation and Hyper-Targeting in Media 13:40 The Role of Superstars and Long Tail Creators 19:20 Streaming Platforms: Carnivores vs. Herbivores 25:45 TikTok's Influence on the Music Industry 27:33 Part Two 28:38 Diving into the Music Industry's Hype 30:08 Constructive Criticism in Emerging Technologies 30:39 The Metaverse and NFTs: A Skeptical View 31:28 Frameworks for Assessing New Technologies 33:10 The Future of Digital Fandom 35:15 Bifurcation in the Market 43:07 Pendulum Swings in Technology Adoption 44:54 Lessons from the Aviation Industry 46:29 Final Thoughts and Predictions 52:00 Credits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    52 min

  3. 4 NOV.

    New Media Overtaking Old Media with Lauren Jarvis

    Podcasts are having another moment:  Trump on Joe Rogan, Kamala on Call Her Daddy. New media is overtaking old media in audience and influence. Back in early 2023, we welcomed guest Lauren Jarvis, who helped bring Rogan to Spotify and growing podcasts into the medium we see today. Given this week’s election mania, we bring Lauren back to make sense of it all.  For more on Bubble Trouble, including transcripts of the show, visit us online at http://bubbletroublepodcast.com You can learn more about Richard at https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-kramer-16306b2/ More on Will Page at: https://pivotaleconomics.com (Times below correspond to the episode without considering any inserted advertisements.) The Podcast Boom: Analyzing Influence and the Future of Media In this episode of Bubble Trouble, hosts Richard Kramer and Will Page delve into the evolving landscape of the podcast industry with guest Lauren Jarvis. They discuss the resurgence of podcasts as a significant media platform, touching on notable examples like Joe Rogan's recent Trump interview. The conversation also covers the economic potential of podcasts, their role in reaching new audiences, and the gamification of learning as a growing trend in tech. Jarvis shares insights on the integration of technology into daily life and the future of media consumption. 00:00 Introduction to Bubble Trouble 00:59 Part One 02:52 Political Influence of Podcasts 05:26 Audience Engagement and Monetization 09:09 The Future of Media Consumption 22:11 Part Two 22:13 Tech Trends and Predictions 37:46 AI and Data Utilization 46:12 Closing Thoughts and Farewell 48:33 Credits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    49 min

  4. 28 OCT.

    Solving for X

    Repeat from November, 2023. For more on Bubble Trouble, including transcripts of the show, visit us online at http://bubbletroublepodcast.com You can learn more about Richard at https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-kramer-16306b2/ More on Will Page at: https://pivotaleconomics.com In this episode of Bubble Trouble, hosts Richard Kramer and Will Page engage in an in-depth discussion with Alex Kantrowitz, veteran tech journalist and founder of Big Technology. The discussion provides insights on some of the issues and dilemmas facing Twitter (now called X) under the leadership of Elon Musk. Kantrowitz offers valuable perspectives on the changing dynamics in the tech world, touching on the rise of Reddit, problems with 'Threads', and the impact of new leadership on Twitter's performance and brand value. The conversation also delves into the principle of 'Effective Altruism' prevalent in Silicon Valley and what it signifies about tech leadership. Analysis of recent data reveals Twitter's shrinking user base and engagement, though it remains a highly popular app. The episode wraps with Kantrowitz sharing about his newsletter 'Big Technology', and its recent features. 00:00 Introduction and Welcome 00:46 Part One 00:52 Interview with Tech Journalist Alex Kantrowicz 02:17 Exploring Twitter's History and Business Model 06:52 Twitter's Influence and Impact on Journalism 07:32 The Decline of Traditional Media and the Rise of Digital Platforms 08:45 Twitter's Role in the Attention Economy 09:54 Twitter's Popularity and Influence Despite Declining Numbers 15:06 Analyzing Twitter's User Data and Trends 28:47 Part Two 32:37 The Future of Twitter: Cyclical or Structural Decline? 36:26 Twitter's Competition: Reddit and Threads 36:34 The Struggles of Threads 36:59 The Power of Network Effects 38:17 The Limitations of Threads 39:48 The Rise of Reddit 40:04 The Role of Reddit in the Social Media Landscape 40:54 The Impact of Pocket App on Twitter 41:25 The Irrelevance of Threads and the Power of Meta 44:20 The Challenges Twitter Faces 45:50 Potential Strategies to Save Twitter 49:32 The Future of Twitter Under Musk's Leadership 54:51 The Role of Effective Altruism in Tech Companies 58:57 The Danger of Singular Solutions 59:27 The Value of Comments and the Future of Twitter 01:01:38 Closing Remarks and Promotion of Big Technology 01:02:34 Credits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    1 h 3 min

  5. 21 OCT.

    When Companies Outgrow Countries

    The past week has seen US stocks–and gold, btw–rally to record highs. This week, we’re going to apply the magnifying glass to the ‘Magnificent Seven’ that are driving this rally and ask what happens when the sheer size of these US corporations, or corporate value, starts to overtake individual European stock markets. That’s right - any one of these US companies are worth more than British or German capitalism.  With an election on the horizon, time to figure out what this all means. For more on Bubble Trouble, including transcripts of the show, visit us online at http://bubbletroublepodcast.com You can learn more about Richard at https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-kramer-16306b2/ More on Will Page at: https://pivotaleconomics.com (Times below correspond to the episode without considering any inserted advertisements.) Bubble Trouble: Giants of Global Markets and Economic Quandaries In this episode of Bubble Trouble, Richard Kramer and Will Page explore the dominance of the 'Magnificent Seven' US corporations in the recent stock market rally and their comparison to European markets. They discuss the significant influence of American tech CEOs versus their European counterparts, global lobbying efforts by big tech, and the economic impact of major tech product launches like Apple's iPhone 16 on UK retail sales. The episode analyzes the UK's economic challenges, governmental budget constraints, and tax policy trade-offs, including the freezing of tax thresholds. The hosts delve into the broader societal and economic consequences of media monopolies, infrastructure investments, and the peculiarities of contemporary political landscapes.  00:00  00:00 Introduction 00:55 Part One 01:00 Feedback and OpenAI Discussion 02:41 The Magnificent Seven: US Companies vs. European Markets 04:29 Comparing Market Values 07:26 Future Projections and Power Dynamics 12:50 European Response and Regulatory Challenges 15:49 Investment Strategies and Market Resilience 18:21 Retail Sales and Apple's Influence 19:30 Part Two 19:30 UK's Economic Challenges and Government Budget 22:19 Tax Policies and Fiscal Strategies 30:18 The Impact of Media and Big Tech 35:29 Concluding Thoughts and Audience Engagement 36:49 Credits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    37 min

  6. 14 OCT.

    BT 128 Labour’s 100 Days: No Bubbles, Some Troubles

    We thought we’d get a little political on this week’s show. Are we serving up a bubble that was a landslide UK election, or is the new government trouble a bubble? And we want to deconstruct Will’s Pessimism Paradox as it applies to the place we most often seen bubbles, in high finance where the less certain the outcomes to higher the markets go. For more on Bubble Trouble, including transcripts of the show, visit us online at http://bubbletroublepodcast.com You can learn more about Richard at https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-kramer-16306b2/ More on Will Page at: https://pivotaleconomics.com (Times below correspond to the episode without considering any inserted advertisements.) Deconstructing Economic Pessimism in the Wake of a New Government In this episode of Bubble Trouble, hosts Richard Kramer and Will Page discuss the political and economic landscape in the UK following the first 100 days of a new government. They analyze the concept of political and economic bubbles, questioning whether pessimism dominates current narratives. The discussion spans issues like the impact of the cloud on GDP measurement, tax policies, and the importance of attracting talent over traditional economic metrics. The hosts also delve into the role of economists’ outlooks during different economic conditions. The episode underscores the significance of focusing on new strategies and the long-term impact of political decisions, highlighting the government and economic system's current challenges. 00:00 Introduction to Bubble Trouble 00:44 Part One 00:50 Analyzing the New Government's First 100 Days 03:56 The Pessimism Paradox Explained 14:13 Debating Economic Growth and GDP 18:59 Part Two 19:19 Tax Policies and Economic Challenges 25:23 The Talent Competition and Immigration 28:57 Reflections on Political Labels and Strategy 32:47 Conclusion and Listener Engagement 33:25 Credits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    34 min

  7. 7 OCT.

    Open AI: For What It's Worth

    We always try to flag the smoke signals of mischievous market behaviour that gets society and stock  portfolios into trouble. Are we about to get fooled again by the hype and hysteria surrounding the poster child Open AI?  Or maybe, just maybe, it’s worth joining us for 30 minutes to find what really sits behind a 150bn valuation and ask whether beauty is in the eye of the beholder? For more on Bubble Trouble, including transcripts of the show, visit us online at http://bubbletroublepodcast.com You can learn more about Richard at https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-kramer-16306b2/ More on Will Page at: https://pivotaleconomics.com (Times below correspond to the episode without considering any inserted advertisements.) In the latest episode of Bubble Trouble, co-hosts Richard Kramer and Will Page dive into the hype surrounding OpenAI, now valued at $150 billion. They examine the risks of market hype and hysteria behind this soaring valuation, discussing the broader implications for society and the tech industry. The episode explores the nuances of company valuations, comparing public versus private market insights and the lack of transparency in the private sector. With references to past tech bubbles, the hosts analyze the potential conflicts of interest among investors and question the sustainability of current trajectories in tech valuations. As they await the next bubble to burst, Kramer and Page emphasize the importance of scrutinizing underlying business fundamentals in an era of outsized market valuations. 00:00 Introduction 00:49 Part One 01:04 The AI Hype and OpenAI's Valuation 03:25 Understanding Company Valuations 06:32 Public vs Private Market Valuations 10:56 The Transparency Challenge in Tech 15:26 Reflecting on Past Episodes and Lessons 21:12 Part Two 21:49 The Role of Central Banks in Market Bubbles 25:32 Exploring OpenAI's Valuation and Market Dynamics 36:09 Smoke Signals and Future Predictions 43:46 Credits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    44 min

  8. 30 SEPT.

    You Can't Lead If You Don't Know Where You're Going: Big Tech vs Big Gov Tech with Bill Raduchel

    This week we speak with Bill Raduchel, who has served as a high-level executive and strategic adviser for organizations such as Sun Microsystems, AOL Time Warner, Xerox, McGraw-Hill, and the Salvation Army. Over half a century working with systems, software, and networks, he has remained at the forefront of the technology revolution in media, education, and corporate governance including recognition at Sun as CIO of the Year and the top CFO in the computer industry and at AOL as CTO of the year. He holds more than fifty issued patents as well as a PhD in econometrics from Harvard, where he taught for five years with John Kenneth Galbraith. He has been writing software in some form since he turned fifteen years old in 1961. He is also the author of The New Technology State. This book is about society—how it has changed and what technology is enabling us to do to ourselves. [Repeat from April, 2024] For more on Bubble Trouble, including transcripts of the show, visit us online at http://bubbletroublepodcast.com You can learn more about Richard at https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-kramer-16306b2/ More on Will Page at: https://pivotaleconomics.com (Times below correspond to the episode without considering any inserted advertisements.) The New Technology State: Redefining the Tech and Government Landscape 00:00 Welcome to Bubble Trouble: A Skeptical Conversation 00:46 A Journey Through Tech and Economics 06:23 The Evolution of Technology and Its Impact on Economics 08:02 The Writing Process and Insights into Bill's Book 11:21 Exploring the New Technology State and Government Challenges 17:43 The Intricacies of Tech Talent and Government Staffing 19:53 Tech Debt and the Challenges of Modernization 25:55 The Global Tech Landscape: Government and Private Sector Dynamics 25:55 Wrapping Up Part One and Teasing Part Two 25:55 Simplifying UK Government Websites: A Double-Edged Sword 25:55 The Dangers of Centralization and Cybersecurity 26:10 Big Tech, Government, and the Quest for Regulation 27:59 The Talent Gap in Government and Tech Regulation Challenges 29:15 Innovative Solutions andthe Power of Decentralization 30:15 The Role of Startups in Tech Innovation and Employee Motivation 31:59 Google's Management Revolution: Lessons in Innovation 34:45 The Complexities of Regulating Big Tech 40:05 Navigating the Future of AI and Government Regulation 42:19 Economics, Education, and the Future Workforce 44:56 Smoke Signals: Warning Signs in Tech and Regulation 50:06 Credits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    51 min
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Bubble Trouble features conversations between economist and author Will Page and independent analyst Richard Kramer that lay out some inconvenient truths about how financial markets really work. Like the “boy who cried wolf,” financial markets have a peculiar tendency to repeat past mistakes and get themselves into “bubble trouble.” They party hard, drink too much of the Kool Aid, and wake up with a pounding hangover...only to do the same thing the next day. With tech dominating daily headlines and teenage traders driving stocks to unprecedented valuations, you might be asking “What’s really going on?” “What am I missing?” Imagine having a set of tour guides to tell you the “story behind the story” of the world’s largest tech companies, and how they bend - or break - the rules of economics. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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