Secure Talk Podcast

Justin Beals
Secure Talk Podcast

Secure Talk reviews the latest threats, tips, and trends on security, innovation, and compliance. Host Justin Beals interviews leading privacy, security and technology executives to discuss best practices related to IT security, data protection and compliance. Based in Seattle, he previously served as the CTO of NextStep and Koru, which won the 2018 Most Impactful Startup award from Wharton People Analytics. He is the creator of the patented Training, Tracking & Placement System and the author of “Aligning curriculum and evidencing learning effectiveness using semantic mapping of learning assets,” published in the International Journal of Emerging Technologies in Learning (iJet). Justin earned a BA from Fort Lewis College.

  1. The Security Leader Who Predicted AI Would Replace His Own Team (And Why He's Right) with Satyam Patel

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    The Security Leader Who Predicted AI Would Replace His Own Team (And Why He's Right) with Satyam Patel

    🌙 THE MIDNIGHT SECURITY GUARDIAN: A CISO'S ORIGIN STORY At 2 AM, most people are dreaming. Satyam Patel is wide awake, sending texts to his security team: "Are we secure? Did we patch that server? Is MFA enabled on that service account?" This isn't insomnia—it's the origin story of how a "big firewall guy" transformed into one of cybersecurity's most forward-thinking leaders, and why his journey from infrastructure skeptic to AI evangelist mirrors the entire industry's evolution. 📖 THE THREE-ACT TRANSFORMATION: Act I: The Infrastructure Skeptic's Awakening Watch Satyam's journey from traditional "firewall and load balancer guy" to realizing that employees can't be forced behind VPNs anymore. The moment he discovered that flexibility doesn't mean vulnerability—it means evolution. Learn how this mindset shift led him from protecting perimeters to protecting people. Act II: The Culture Shock That Changed Everything Picture this: After years of doing "security roadshows" and begging for budget, Satyam walks into Kandji and experiences reverse culture shock. Instead of chasing people for security buy-in, they come to HIM asking, "What does security think?" Witness the CEO moment that flipped his world: "It's not a request—it's a mandate to protect our company at ANY cost." Act III: The AI Prophet's Dilemma The heated boardroom debate that keeps CISOs awake: Replace human SOC analysts with AI, or keep the human element? Follow Satyam's internal struggle as he weighs 10,000 daily AI-analyzed calls against human intuition, leading to his bold prediction about "Minority Report" style predictive cybersecurity. 🎭 CHARACTER-DRIVEN MOMENTS: The Paranoid Father: Why Satyam forces his family to use alphanumeric passwords and what Tom Cruise's "Minority Report" taught him about threat prediction. The Reformed Skeptic: How a career infrastructure guy learned to embrace endpoint security and why he now believes MDM is the new perimeter. The Reluctant Prophet: His uncomfortable realization that automation will replace thousands of cybersecurity jobs—and why he's helping it happen. ⚡ PLOT TWISTS YOU WON'T SEE COMING: The university graduate's graduation post that led to complete identity theftWhy 99% security equals 100% vulnerability (and the math that proves it)The Signal app scandal that changed how he thinks about mobile security 🎬 THE SUPPORTING CAST: Adam (Kandji CEO): The leader who gave unlimited security budgetThe Development Team: Who learned to ask security questions firstThe 2 AM Security Team: Who actually appreciate the paranoid textsThe AI SOC Analyst: The non-human teammate changing everything 🚀 MEET THE PROTAGONIST: Satyam Patel isn't your typical CISO. He's the guy who went from customer to C-suite, from skeptic to believer, from infrastructure defender to AI advocate. With 25+ years of plot twists, failed budgets, successful breaches prevented, and one very understanding family who puts up with alphanumeric phone passwords. #CISOStory #CyberSecurityJourney #AIvsHuman #ZeroTrust #SecurityLeadership #ThreatDetection #Kandji #EndpointSecurity #ParanoidCISO #CyberStory #SecurityCulture #TechTransformation This isn't just another security interview—it's a cybersecurity thriller with real-world consequences. Subscribe for more stories from the digital frontlines! 🎬🔐

    42 мин.
  2. Can Cybersecurity be "Agile"? with Brian Wagner

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    Can Cybersecurity be "Agile"? with Brian Wagner

    Can Security be “Agile”? with Brian Wagner In this comprehensive interview, Brian Wagner, CTO at Revenir and former AWS security executive, shares insights from his new book "Redefining Information Security" and explains why the cybersecurity industry needs a fundamental shift in approach. With over 20 years of experience leading security transformations across enterprise organizations, Wagner presents a practical framework for moving beyond reactive security models. About the Guest: Brian Wagner brings extensive C-suite experience from Amazon Web Services, Moody's RMS, Bulletproof, and Defense.com. Based in London, he speaks globally on cloud security, AI-driven solutions, and security transformation. His latest book "Redefining Information Security" introduces a three-level maturity framework that's gaining attention from security leaders worldwide. Key Discussion Points: The Security Maturity Framework: Wagner outlines his three-level approach—Reactive, Proactive, and Adaptive security—explaining how organizations can assess their current position and plan strategic improvements. He emphasizes that most companies remain stuck in reactive mode, responding to threats after damage occurs.From Cybersecurity to Information Safety: The conversation explores Wagner's concept of treating security as "information safety" rather than traditional cybersecurity. This cultural shift makes digital protection everyone's responsibility, transforming potential vulnerabilities into defensive assets.AI in Security Applications: Drawing from his work at Revenir, where the company handles sensitive financial and personal data across international borders, Wagner discusses practical AI implementations for pattern recognition, fraud detection, and compliance monitoring. He explains why AI excels at identifying normal versus abnormal patterns in security contexts.Security as Business Enabler: Wagner demonstrates how security can function as a competitive advantage rather than a cost center. He shares strategies for communicating security value to go-to-market teams and integrating security features into product development cycles.Compliance vs. Security Balance: The discussion addresses the relationship between regulatory compliance and actual security, with Wagner explaining how compliance represents minimum standards while effective security requires ongoing investment and adaptation.Open Source and Democratic Security: Wagner advocates for open source collaboration in cybersecurity, arguing that community-based approaches provide more transparent and accessible security solutions, especially important given recent changes in vulnerability disclosure programs. Practical Implementation:  The conversation includes real-world examples, from detecting sophisticated employment fraud schemes to integrating security practices into agile development workflows. Wagner emphasizes incremental improvements and measurable outcomes. Book Recommendation: "Redefining Information Security" offers a strategic approach to security leadership, focusing on cultural transformation and business alignment rather than purely technical solutions. The book provides frameworks for security professionals and business leaders looking to modernize their approach to digital protection. Link to the book: https://www.koganpage.com/risk-compliance/redefining-information-security-9781398620018 This interview provides valuable insights for cybersecurity professionals, technology leaders, and anyone interested in understanding how AI and modern approaches are reshaping enterprise security practices. #Cybersecurity #InformationSecurity #AI #SecurityMaturity #AWS #CloudSecurity #CTO #CISO #ThreatDetection #SecurityCulture #CyberThreats #SecurityLeadership

    46 мин.
  3. The AI Creator's Confession: "I Built Google Translate to Unite People. It's Now Tearing Us Apart" with De Kai

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    The AI Creator's Confession: "I Built Google Translate to Unite People. It's Now Tearing Us Apart" with De Kai

    What happens when you realize your life's work is being used to destroy what you hoped to create? Meet De Kai - the man who helped build Google Translate, Siri, and modern AI systems. In 1990s Hong Kong, he dreamed of AI that could bridge cultural divides. Thirty years later, he experienced his "Oppenheimer moment" - the same machine learning he pioneered to unite people was dividing humanity through social media algorithms. The Reality Check: We don't just have 8 billion humans anymore. We have 800 billion AI systems learning our behavior 24/7 - "digital children" growing up without parental guidance. 🎯 KEY INSIGHTS: • The Translation Paradox: How unity technology became division engines • The Blind Men & Elephant: Ancient parable explaining why we misunderstand AI • Digital Parenting Crisis: Why we're raising 800 billion unguided AI systems • The Psychology of Manipulation: How AI exploits cognitive weaknesses • Four Futures Scenario: Humanity's possible paths with AI 🧠 AI MANIPULATION TACTICS REVEALED: Anchoring attacks that shape your thinkingBelief perseverance traps that backfire fact-checkingHow algorithms turn gossip into social weapons📖 ABOUT "RAISING AI": De Kai's book explores the question we should be asking: Not "Will AI replace us?" but "How do we raise AI ethically?" Written by Google's AI Ethics Council founding member, it reveals why current AI needs 15 million times more data than human children and provides a framework for ethical AI development. 🔬 DE KAI'S CREDENTIALS: • AI pioneer & Founding Fellow in computational linguistics • Independent Director of AI ethics think tank The Future Society • One of 8 inaugural members of Google's AI Ethics Council • Joint appointment at HKUST Computer Science & Berkeley's International Computer Science Institute • Electronic musician exploring AI creativity 💭 QUESTIONS ANSWERED: How translation tech became social manipulation?What makes AI behave like "unparented teenagers"?How to be a good "AI parent" in organizations?Why human-AI merger might be our best survival strategy? The Timeline is Accelerating. 99% of people are "frozen like deer in headlights" facing humanity's most disruptive transformation. Organizations ignoring AI governance face competitive extinction within five years. This isn't academic theory - it's a confession and warning from someone who helped create the systems now shaping global culture. Book: Raising AI: An Essential Guide to Parenting Our Future #AIEthics #GoogleTranslate #ArtificialIntelligence #MachineLearning #RaisingAI #TechnologyLeadership #AIGovernance #DigitalTransformation #FutureOfWork #AIStrategy #Innovation #TechLeadership #AICompliance #BusinessStrategy

    44 мин.
  4. Securing Society Through Data Kindness: How Cooperation Becomes Our Best Defense with Aram Sinnreich and Jesse Gilbert

    27 МАЯ

    Securing Society Through Data Kindness: How Cooperation Becomes Our Best Defense with Aram Sinnreich and Jesse Gilbert

    Episode Description:   Every device around you is collecting data about you and everyone you interact with. Amazon Echo recordings are being subpoenaed in murder trials. Period tracking apps are being used to prosecute women. Ancestry websites are revealing family secrets. We're participants in the largest social experiment in human history—and we never opted in. In this episode of SecureTalk, host Justin Beals sits down with Dr. Aram Sinnreich and Jesse Gilbert, co-authors of "The Secret Life of Data," to explore a revolutionary approach to digital security: data kindness. 🎯 KEY TOPICS COVERED: • Why our biggest security threat is social fragmentation, not just technical vulnerabilities • How tech companies profit from division (anger drives 5x more engagement than approval) • The food allergy transformation: how society changed practices organically in 20 years • Practical data kindness: simple actions that rebuild digital trust • Why cooperation is our best defense in an age of surveillance • How to reclaim agency over your digital life 🚨 CRITICAL INSIGHTS: We can't rely on tech companies (profit over people) or Congress (no data protection laws passed)Change must happen from the ground up through shared cultural practicesSimple acts like unplugging smart devices for guests or consulting family before DNA uploads matterDivided societies are vulnerable societies—cooperation is a security strategy👥 ABOUT THE GUESTS:  Dr. Aram Sinnreich serves as a Professor and Graduate Director within the Communication Studies department at American University’s School of Communication.  His research addresses the convergence of culture, law, and technology, focusing particularly on topics such as surveillance and privacy, intellectual property, digital rights, digital culture, democracy, governance, and music.  Sinnreich has authored five books: Mashed Up (2010), The Piracy Crusade (2013), The Essential Guide to Intellectual Property (2019), the science fiction novel A Second Chance for Yesterday (2023; coauthored with Rachel Hope Cleves as R.A. Sinn), and The Secret Life of Data (2024; coauthored with Jesse Gilbert).  Additionally, his writing has appeared in various publications including The New York Times, Billboard, Wired, The Daily Beast, and Rolling Stone. He is a core faculty member of the SOC doctoral program and the MA in Media, Technology & Democracy, regularly collaborating with SOC graduate students on research publications and projects.  Jesse Gilbert is an interdisciplinary artist focused on the convergence of visual art, sound, and software design through his firm, Dark Matter Media. He previously served as the founding Chair of the Media Technology department at Woodbury University and has taught interactive software design at CalArts and UC San Diego. Since 2010, Gilbert's work has revolved around his innovative software, SpectralGL, which is an interactive listening instrument that creates real-time visual landscapes in response to sound. Drawing on his background as a composer, sound designer, and lifelong technologist, his creative output investigates the phenomenological aspects of listening through improvisation and collaborative dialogue. His work has been showcased at numerous concert halls, festivals, and projection-mapped installations worldwide. In 2007, Gilbert co-founded Dark Matter Media LLC to facilitate his independent creative projects and provide consultancy on emerging technologies across various public and private environments. From 2011 to 2017, he held the founding Chair position in the Department of Media Technology at Woodbury University and taught interactive software design at both CalArts and UC San Diego. After documenting the problems in their first book, Aram and Jesse recently published insights in Time Magazine and are working on a new book about building cooperative societies with kindness embedded in technology design. 🔗 CONNECT WITH SECURETALK: • Subscribe for weekly cybersecurity insights • Follow Justin Beals on LinkedIn •  RESOURCES: Sinnreich, A., & Gilbert, J. (2025, April 3). How to be kind in a world that's always monitoring you. Time Magazine. https://time.com/7273469/data-monitoring-kindness-essay/ Sinnreich, A., & Gilbert, J. (2024). The secret life of data: Navigating hype and uncertainty in the age of algorithmic surveillance. MIT Press.  Beals, J. (Host). (2024, May 14) The Algorithmic Mirror: Reflecting on Data's Role in Modern Life. in Secure Talk Podcast, Ep 173 with Aram Sinnreich and Jesse Gilbert

    54 мин.
  5. The Quantum Security Precipice: Why Michele Mosca is Building Cryptographic Resilience Before It's Too Late

    20 МАЯ

    The Quantum Security Precipice: Why Michele Mosca is Building Cryptographic Resilience Before It's Too Late

    ***Are you attending the Gartner GRC Summit? If so, come along on our Sunset Trip on June 10, 2025. Register here! https://www.strikegraph.com/boat-party-2025?utm_source=secure-talk&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=gartner-boat-party Episode Description: When quantum computing pioneer Michele Mosca met Peter Shor in the 1990s, he thought quantum computing was "science fiction." Now, he's warning that we're just "a few quarters" away from quantum computers capable of shattering the encryption protecting our global financial system, government communications, and critical infrastructure. In this must-listen episode, the Oxford-educated mathematician and co-founder of Evolution Q breaks down why symmetric key infrastructure (SKI) and "cryptographic resilience" are essential as quantum computing advances faster than our security preparations. With remarkable clarity, Mosca explains how the nine-year NIST standardization process signals both progress and concerning delays in our quantum readiness. The interview explores why most organizations are unprepared, how quantum networks could provide a novel security solution, and what businesses should be doing now to protect their long-term data security. Mosca also details the latest breakthroughs in quantum error correction across ion traps, neutral atoms, and superconducting qubits that are bringing us closer to fault-tolerant quantum computing. Key Topics Covered: The evolution of quantum computing from theoretical concept to imminent realityHow close we are to breaking modern encryption standardsEvolution Q's innovative approach to quantum resilienceThe concept of symmetric key infrastructure (SKI) as a defense mechanismRecent breakthroughs in quantum error correctionWhy organizations need both defense-in-depth and cryptographic diversityThe limitations of the NIST standardization process and what it means for security Episode Highlights: "I met Don Coppersmith... he told me he was helping a colleague improve his algorithm where you'd trap these atoms and you'd shine lasers on them, do exponentiation and then do a Fourier transform... I thought he was joking. I'd never heard of this before." "We look at it as an engineering challenge. Oh, how much does it cost to scale this up? By a factor of 10 or 100 or 1,000, but 1,000, it's like 10 bits of security... It's not that much of a security buffer. The one we're used to in cryptography between what we could break and those we can't, we want an enormous gap." About the Guest: Michele Mosca is the CEO and co-founder of evolutionQ, a start-up that provides scalable defense-in-depth with post-quantum cryptography (PQC) and quantum key distribution (QKD) software solutions for cryptographic resilience and quantum-safe security. Michele is a renowned expert in cryptography and among the world's leading experts at the intersection of quantum computing and cybersecurity. He has been instrumental in working with the business community to share the importance of cryptography as a critical cybersecurity control protecting both data and communications. Prior to evolutionQ, Michele was a founder of the world-leading Institute for Quantum Computing, a Professor in the Department of Combinatorics & Optimization at the University of Waterloo, and a founding member of the Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics. His work on quantum computing has been published widely in top journals and textbooks. Michele worked on cryptography during his BMath (Waterloo) and MSc (Oxford) and obtained his Doctorate (Oxford) in Quantum Computer Algorithms. He was appointed as a Knight in the Order of Merit by the Government of Italy in 2018. The Knighthood recognizes Michele’s contributions in quantum information science and digital security, as well as teaching and outreach. Connect and Learn More: Stay updated on quantum security developments: quantum-safe.caSubscribe to SecureTalk on your favorite podcast platformJoin the conversation with #QuantumSecurity #PostQuantumCryptography #QuantumThreat #CyberResilience

    52 мин.
  6. National Security in Crisis How Geopolitical Chaos Threatens Cybersecurity & Democracy"  SecureTalk with Mike LeFever

    13 МАЯ

    National Security in Crisis How Geopolitical Chaos Threatens Cybersecurity & Democracy" SecureTalk with Mike LeFever

    In this riveting episode of SecureTalk, host Justin Beals welcomes back decorated military leader and security expert Mike LeFever, Executive Vice President of National Security at Concentric, to discuss the intersection of physical security, geopolitical instability, and the future of national defense. From the polarization of American politics to the innovative warfare tactics in Ukraine, this conversation offers cybersecurity professionals an essential perspective on how global security dynamics impact the digital landscape. ## Key Topics Covered: - 🔒 **Physical Security Crisis**: How political polarization has created new security challenges for high-profile individuals and organizations - 🌍 **Soft Power Erosion**: The concerning reduction in USAID and diplomatic initiatives and its impact on national security - 🇺🇦 **Ukraine's Tech Innovation**: Revolutionary drone warfare tactics and rapid adaptation changing the future of military strategy - 💻 **Information Warfare**: The growing "truth decay" problem and how disinformation campaigns are reshaping public discourse - 🏛️ **Constitutional Challenges**: Analysis of current governance issues and threats to democratic institutions - 🔍 **Leadership in Chaos**: Strategic insights for security professionals navigating turbulent times ## Episode Highlights: ### The Business of Protection LeFever discusses how Concentric provides comprehensive security for high-net-worth individuals, including physical security, intelligence products, due diligence, and privacy protection in an increasingly polarized environment where public figures face heightened threats. ### The Crisis in Governance The conversation examines concerning trends in the federal workforce, with both experts highlighting how dismissing experienced personnel creates institutional knowledge gaps and damages trust in critical security domains. ### The Value of Soft Power Drawing from his experience leading earthquake relief efforts in Pakistan, LeFever explains how humanitarian initiatives like USAID build crucial international relationships that enhance national security more effectively than purely kinetic operations. ### Innovations in Modern Warfare Analysis of Ukraine's remarkable technological adaptations against Russia, showcasing how smaller forces can effectively counter larger opponents through rapid innovation and precision drone strikes. ### Leadership Wisdom LeFever shares invaluable advice for security leaders navigating chaos: maintain strategic focus on end goals while building resilience against tactical disruptions. ## About the Guests: **Mike LeFever** is Executive Vice President of National Security at Concentric, providing comprehensive physical and privacy security solutions. His distinguished military career included leadership roles in counterterrorism and diplomatic security initiatives across multiple global hotspots. **Justin Beals** is the host of SecureTalk and a recognized expert in cybersecurity strategy and implementation. ## Connect & Learn More: - Visit www.securetalk.com For more episodes

    48 мин.
  7. How Russian Disinformation Networks Are Poisoning AI Chatbots | SecureTalk with NewsGuard Experts

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    How Russian Disinformation Networks Are Poisoning AI Chatbots | SecureTalk with NewsGuard Experts

    Episode Summary: In this eye-opening episode of Secure Talk, host Justin Beals investigates how foreign disinformation campaigns have evolved to target AI systems. NewsGuard researchers McKenzie Sadeghi and Isis Blachez reveal their groundbreaking investigation into the Moscow-based Pravda network that has successfully infiltrated Western AI chatbots, creating a new frontier in information warfare that bypasses human readers to directly corrupt the technology we rely on for information. Key Insights: Leading AI chatbots repeated Russian disinformation 33% of the time when tested on key geopolitical topicsThe Pravda network has expanded from 50 to over 150 websites specifically designed to influence AI training dataModern disinformation operations now prioritize "LLM grooming" over targeting human readersEven when AI systems attempt to debunk false claims, they often cite unreliable sources, further legitimizing themHuman oversight remains essential as these networks constantly evolve to evade automated detection Notable Quotes: "Bad actors are targeting AI models to get their information to appear in those responses, but they're also weaponizing AI to produce disinformation at scale." - McKenzie Sadeghi "What is changing is really the delivery of the disinformation... it's reaching a much larger audience and an audience that's not targeted as specifically because now practically anyone is using ChatGPT or other chatbots." - Isis Blachez "This network does not invest any money or resources into spreading its content online... It's sort of serving as a centralized hub. And as a result, it appears very high not only in search results but also in chatbot responses." - McKenzie Sadeghi Resources:  Sadeghi, M., & Blachez, I. (2025, March 6). A well-funded Moscow-based global disinformation network. NewsGuard Reality Check. https://www.newsguardrealitycheck.com/p/a-well-funded-moscow-based-global

    43 мин.
  8. The Future of APIs in the Age of AI Agents A Conversation with Postman's Sam Chehab

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    The Future of APIs in the Age of AI Agents A Conversation with Postman's Sam Chehab

    In this episode of SecureTalk, host Justin Beals explores the evolving world of API technology and security with Sam Chehab, Head of Security at Postman - the platform used by over 35 million developers and 90% of Fortune 500 companies. Episode Insights: Postman's Strategic Position: Learn why Sam joined Postman in September 2024 and how they're positioned to be the connective tissue for the emerging AI agent ecosystemAPIs as Agent Infrastructure: Sam explains how Postman's catalog of hundreds of thousands of documented APIs creates the perfect foundation for AI agent interactionsSecurity by Design: Discover how Postman is embedding security throughout the API lifecycle - from conception to deploymentThe Human Factor in Security: Why security remains a collaborative responsibility across organizations and how to foster a security-minded cultureNext-Gen Challenges: Sam's perspective on balancing innovation with fundamental security hygiene concerns like supply chain vulnerabilities "I see such a larger ecosystem that's really going to get built here beyond what's out in the market today," says Sam, discussing how Postman will facilitate human-agent collaboration in building the next generation of applications. Sam brings unique insights from his previous roles at technology giants like Palo Alto Networks and NVIDIA, where he once demonstrated an early chatbot prototype to Jensen Huang himself. His experience taking products through rigorous FedRAMP certification processes provides a valuable perspective on enterprise-grade security implementation. This episode offers essential insights for developers, security professionals, and technology leaders interested in the intersection of APIs, AI, and enterprise security in today's rapidly evolving digital landscape.

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Secure Talk reviews the latest threats, tips, and trends on security, innovation, and compliance. Host Justin Beals interviews leading privacy, security and technology executives to discuss best practices related to IT security, data protection and compliance. Based in Seattle, he previously served as the CTO of NextStep and Koru, which won the 2018 Most Impactful Startup award from Wharton People Analytics. He is the creator of the patented Training, Tracking & Placement System and the author of “Aligning curriculum and evidencing learning effectiveness using semantic mapping of learning assets,” published in the International Journal of Emerging Technologies in Learning (iJet). Justin earned a BA from Fort Lewis College.

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