The Art & Science of Learning

Dr Kinga Petrovai
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The Art & Science of Learning (TASL) Podcast connects ideas, people, and resources to inform and inspire exceptional learning experiences. Bridging the gap between research and practice across various industries promotes the cross-pollination of ideas to enhance learning for all. Through in-depth conversations with global leaders in learning, the TASL podcast aims to broaden the discussion on how we learn. In each episode, learning specialist Dr. Kinga Petrovai interviews industry leaders, academics, practitioners, and learning designers to explore various aspects of learning and development. These conversations weave together insights from around the globe and across industries, reaching listeners in 100 countries to inspire and inform innovations in lifelong learning.

  1. AUG 21

    122. A Technical School Forged by Engineers, Fueled by Purpose (Tudor Andrei Tămâian, Principal of Anghel Saligny Technical High School)

    This is very special episode of the podcast — one that’s quite personal and rooted in a story that spans generations. Earlier this summer, I had the privilege of visiting Anghel Saligny Technical High School (Liceului Tehnologic Anghel Saligny) in Baia Mare, Romania — a school that holds profound meaning for my family. I was there to take part in my mother’s 50th high school reunion, a beautiful moment of reflection and reconnection. But my family’s connection to this school goes far beyond that. My grandfather — a respected senior leader in the field of engineering — was among the group of leading engineers who shared a vision of creating a school that developed the future talent in civil building engineering. They created a school where young people could be trained for real careers in engineering, technology, and construction — a vision that continues to shape the school today. My godparents, also respected senior leaders in engineering, taught for many years at the school, bringing their professional experience and expertise to students. Now, that legacy lives on through my godparents’ daughter, Daniela Maria Deceanu, also an engineer who now serves as the Vice Principal of the school. My own passion for education has been deeply shaped by both of my grandfathers. One, an engineer with a forward-thinking mindset, believed strongly in preparing students for the workforce of the future. The other, a devoted language teacher, passed on a love for words, learning, and communication. My parents carried on their passion for learning by teaching me how to learn and instilling in me the importance of lifelong learning. Their values continue to guide me in my work and in conversations that I have on this podcast. In this episode, I sit down with Tudor Andrei Tămâian, the Principal of Anghel Saligny Technical High School, to talk about what it means to lead a vocational school in today’s world. Tudor shares how the school partners with local industry, facilitates European work exchange programs, and helps students gain practical, hands-on experience. We also talk about the school’s impressive track record at skills olympics and professional competitions, where students consistently prove the power of applied education. This conversation is about leadership, vision, and the future of vocational learning. Tudor Andrei Tămâian is the Principal of Anghel Saligny Technical High School (Liceul Tehnologic Anghel Saligny) in Baia Mare, Romania. He is a highly dedicated professional with a strong academic background in Economics (B.A.), Business Administration, and Human Rights (M.A.). With over 15 years of experience as an educator and four years as a high school principal, Tudor also brings valuable insights from previous roles in sales and financial services, particularly in credit and banking. As a school leader, he promotes a collaborative and open management style that values communication, teamwork, and a positive work environment. His decisions are always student-centred, aiming to improve both the learning experience and student outcomes. Passionate about sharing knowledge and values with younger generations, Tudor is committed to being part of a mission-driven team focused on reducing school dropout rates and increasing the number of students who successfully complete their high school education. He strongly believes in education as a powerful tool for building better futures. Anghel Saligny Technical High School (Liceul Tehnologic Anghel Saligny) https://www.asalignybm.tpsvision.ro

    30 min

  2. JUL 25

    121. Learning in Museums - Visiting 9 Ottawa Museums in 3 Days

    This is a special episode in which I’m reflecting on a unique experience that I undertook: visiting 9 Ottawa museums in just 3 days to explore how each one creates meaningful, accessible, and inspiring learning experiences. This whirlwind tour includes 7 of Canada’s national museums: Canada Agriculture and Food Museum - https://ingeniumcanada.org/cafm Canada Aviation and Space Museum - https://ingeniumcanada.org/casm Canadian Museum of History - https://www.historymuseum.ca Canadian Museum of Nature - http://nature.ca Canada Science and Technology Museum - http://ingeniumcanada.org Canadian War Museum - https://www.warmuseum.ca National Gallery of Canada (Including an interview with Kathryn Lyons, Director of Learning and Community Engagement - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathryn-lyons-48a6253/ ) http://www.gallery.ca Plus, two additional Ottawa landmarks: Royal Canadian Mint - https://www.mint.ca/en Bytown Museum - http://bytownmuseum.ca While each of these remarkable museums easily warrants a full day, I’m using the new 3-Day Museum Pass from Ottawa Tourism, which is a great way to see what each museum has to offer. Ottawa Museum Pass https://ottawatourism.ca/en/ottawa-insider/explore-ottawas-museums-ottawa-museums-pass?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22501991642&gbraid=0AAAAA-NkCBJ8OQutpMd54a4wyAFE5Zi3B&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIntnbs-nYjgMVilN_AB2NsjYgEAAYAiAAEgKnPfD_BwE Ottawa Tourism https://ottawatourism.ca/en?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR6mJqJqOQlwQnuz9-vM4Q20AQu0eNNQlW_lnjAo_R6H20kfO0SGb_qIYC8DeA_aem_ry7fXUc3ozpQdV-neRnTGA

    1h 4m

  3. JUL 3

    120. Entrepreneurial Mindset & Skills (Dr. Wendy Cukier)

    Entrepreneurial skills aren’t just for entrepreneurs, they are essential to everyone. In times of turbulence and unpredictability, having an entrepreneurial mindset and skills is critical. In this episode, I speak with the research lead of the Future Skills Centre, and we explore what it means to approach work and life with an entrepreneurial mindset, as well as the skills necessary for the future of work. Dr. Wendy Cukier is a professor of Entrepreneurship and Innovation at the Ted Rogers School of Management at Toronto Metropolitan University, Academic Director of the Diversity Institute, and Academic Research Director of the Future Skills Centre. She co-authored the bestseller “Innovation Nation: Canadian Leadership from Java to Jurassic Park" and is a leader in disruptive technologies and innovation. Formerly the Vice President of Research and Innovation, she has been the architect of many large scale projects and is currently the Academic Research Director for the Future Skills Centre as well as the founder of the Women Entrepreneurship Knowledge Hub. With a PhD in Information Systems and more than thirty years of technology consulting, her recent work on the Canadian AI Paradox addresses the gap between Canada’s leadership in the development of AI tools and the adoption of them. With the Future Skills Centre, she has led several related research projects, the development of competency frameworks and strategies to support the adoption of AI among entrepreneurs and Small and Medium Enterprises. She leads Toronto Metropolitan University’s Diversity Institute which has over 80 research staff, 100 research associates across Canada and from around the world, and more than 200 industry partners focused on includive education, employment, leadership and entrepreneurship. Wendy has been recognized with many awards for her volunteer work. She has also received Canada’s Meritorious Service Cross, one of the country’s highest civilian honours. In addition to her PhD in Information Systems from the Schulich School of Business, she has an MBA (Marketing and Information Systems), an MA, and honourary doctorates from Laval and Concordia universities. Links: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wendy-cukier-9aa85910/ Future Skills Centre: https://fsc-ccf.ca/team/wendy-cukier-2/

    42 min

  4. JUN 24

    119. Special Episode: Highlights from Ottawa Innovation Week

    This is a special episode featuring highlights from the inaugural Ottawa Innovation Week, with seven insightful interviews from some of the most inspiring leaders in technology and innovation, many of whom were speakers and organizers during the week’s events. Ottawa Innovation Week is a celebration of bold ideas, creative minds, and the changemakers driving the future of technology, business, arts, entertainment, and social impact—right here in Canada’s capital. The initiative was led by Sonya Shorey, President and CEO of Invest Ottawa, in collaboration with the Ottawa Board of Trade, Ottawa Tourism, and numerous partner organizations. My interview with Sonya can be found in Episode 118 of The Art & Science of Learning podcast. Designed to showcase the strength, diversity, and growing momentum of Ottawa’s innovation ecosystem, this first-of-its-kind event brought together leading voices from across technology, entrepreneurship, investment, and research. Throughout the week, I had the privilege of speaking with seven influential figures who are shaping the future of innovation both locally and globally. From startup founders and global corporate leaders to investors and ecosystem architects, each guest shares unique insights into their field, along with personal reflections on growth, leadership, and opportunity. Featured interviews (with timestamps) include: • Veronica Farmer (11:50) – Chief Marketing Officer at Wesley Clover International and a widely respected community builder in Ottawa’s business and tech landscape • Dr. Lindy Ledohowski (37:20) – Vice President at RBCx, supporting leading tech companies with insights drawn from her background as both founder and academic • Julia Elvidge (46:20)– Co-founder of SheBoot, a trailblazer in intellectual property strategy and a champion of women’s entrepreneurship in tech • Nick Quain (59:10) – Vice President of Venture & Entrepreneurship at Invest Ottawa and a driving force behind the city's startup ecosystem • Erin Kelly (1:07:20) – Co-founder and CEO of askpolly.ai, an AI-powered platform transforming predictive analysis in public affairs and beyond • Jonathan Lowenhar (1:14:50) – Founder & Managing Partner at Enjoy The Work, a global advisory firm helping startup founders become exceptional CEOs • Andrew Holmes (1:23:20) – Founder of Sleep Efficiency Inc., and a national expert in the science and impact of sleep health From venture capital and AI innovation to women-led tech startups and the future of sleep science, this episode presents a compelling cross-section of ideas and expertise. Whether you’re a founder, investor, policymaker, or simply curious about Ottawa’s role in shaping the innovation economy, there’s something here for you. ---- Links and Guest Biographies: Ottawa Innovation Week: https://www.investottawa.ca/innovation-week/ Invest Ottawa: https://www.investottawa.ca Interview with Sonya Shorey about Ottawa Innovation Week: https://www.theartandscienceoflearning.com/e101-jan-present/e118-launching-ottawa-innovation-week-sonya-shorey Veronica Farmer Veronica Farmer is Chief Marketing Officer at Wesley Clover International where she oversees all aspects of its promotion and management, collaborating closely with portfolio companies and affiliates such as L-SPARK, Alacrity Global, and WCS Global. Recognized as one of Ottawa’s foremost community builders, Veronica holds leadership and board roles in numerous business and non-profit organizations. As the Founder and former CEO of TrueCourse Communications, a full-service marketing and communications agency, Veronica guided numerous tech, B2B, and B2C clients in Ottawa and beyond toward market success. TrueCourse was acquired in December 2024, marking a milestone in her entrepreneurial journey. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/veronicafarmer/ TechTuesday: https://www.wesleyclover.com/events/techtuesday/ Dr. Lindy Ledohowski Dr. Lindy Ledohowski is VP at RBCx, where she supports some of the Ottawa region’s biggest and best tech companies on behalf of RBCx. Prior to her work in banking, she was a professor and founder of EssayJack, an academic writing platform. EssayJack was acquired in 2021 by Wizeprep, and Lindy joined Wizeprep first as a VP and then as Chief Operating Officer. She is also an active Board member in the not-for-profit space LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lindy-ledohowski/ Julia Elvidge Julia Elvidge is co-founder of SheBoot, a bootcamp for women entrepreneurs of scalable tech and tech-enabled businesses. Julia has been recognized as one of the world’s foremost IP strategists by Intellectual Property Magazine (IAM). Trained as an electrical engineer, Julia designed microchip circuits and analyzed semiconductors before moving into the business side of technology. As co-founder and President, Julia helped build Chipworks into an industry leader, delivering patent analytics and technology intelligence services to intellectual property and R&D groups in electronics companies across Asia, North America and Europe. Recipient of the Canadian Women in Communications Trailblazer of the Year Award (2008) and CATA WIT (Women in Technology) Sara Kirke Award for Woman Entrepreneurship (2007). LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliaelvidge/ SheBoot: https://sheboot.ca Nick Quain Nick Quain is Vice President of Venture & Entrepreneurship at Invest Ottawa, he spearheads support for Ottawa’s tech and entrepreneurial sectors while championing the local business ecosystem as a whole. Previously he served as co-founder and CEO at CellWand. They pioneered the use of abbreviated dialing codes in North America with their award-winning #TAXI (Pound Taxi) service and later in the mobile transportation space with The Ride app. CellWand earned numerous business and innovation awards, including the 2010 Canada’s Top 10 Competition for Technology, recognition as one of Canada’s Hottest Innovation Companies, and being named one of the top 10 Wireless Companies to Watch by IDC. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nick-quain/ Erin Kelly Erin Kelly is co-founder and CEO of askpolly.ai, the venture-backed AI company that has cracked the code for predicting human reaction to a future scenario. askpolly has successfully predicted the outcome of over 30 elections and referendums, assisted with frundraising, forecast disease spread and helped hundreds of executives hone their messages through very difficult PR situations. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erinottawa/ askpolly: https://www.askpolly.ai Jonathan Lowenhar Jonathan Lowenhar is Founder & Managing Partner at Enjoy The Work. Founded in 2015, Enjoy The Work is a San Francisco-based startup advisory firm that helps founders transform into master operators and become great CEOs. Enjoy The Work has supported more than 125 startups, representing more than $13B in combined market value. Among their global client list are notable success stories such as Tipalti, Paper.co, inDinero, RealtyMogul and Honeybook. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jlowenhar/ Enjoy The Work: https://enjoythework.com Andrew Holmes Andrew Holmes is Founder of Sleep Efficiency Inc. Before founding Sleep Efficiency, Andrew served as Senior of Cardiopulmonary labs at the Queensway Carleton Hospital in Ottawa, where he led the team responsible for a full-service out-patient cardiopulmonary department and sleep clinic. Andrew is routinely featured as the sleep subject matter expert on CTV News and CBC’s The National, offering insights into the critical role of sleep health. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-holmes-rpsgt-49961951/ Sleep Efficiency: https://www.sleepefficiency.ca

    1h 35m

  5. JUN 6

    118. Launching Ottawa Innovation Week (Sonya Shorey)

    Something exciting is happening in my hometown of Ottawa, and I’m looking forward to sharing it with you on the podcast. Next week, from June 9th to the 13th, will be the inaugural Ottawa Innovation Week, a celebration of bold ideas, creative minds, and the game-changers who are driving the future of technology, business, arts, entertainment, and social impact right here in Canada's capital. My guest on this episode is Sonya Shorey, President and CEO, Invest Ottawa, Bayview Yards, and Area X.O, a research and development complex that helps accelerate next-gen technology. Sonya is leading Ottawa Innovation Week, in partnership with the Ottawa Board of Trade and Ottawa Tourism, among many other organizations. We discuss what inspired her to create Ottawa Innovation Week, how it was developed, what we can expect, and what she hopes will be the impact on us as individuals and on the city. I will reflect on my experience and what I learned during Ottawa Innovation Week, including interviews with some of the speakers and innovators I meet, in the episode that will be published on June 19th. Ottawa Innovation Week event details can be found on the website at: https://www.investottawa.ca/innovation-week/ Sonya Shorey, President and CEO of Invest Ottawa, Bayview Yards, and Area X.O, is a strategy executive and management consultant with more than 22 years of leadership experience with private and public organizations. With expertise in regional, national, and global technology, entrepreneurial, economic development, and innovation-based organizations, she specializes in corporate and communications strategy development and execution. This includes investment strategies that secure new cash and in-kind contributions from public and private sources. Since 2005, Sonya has led, strategized, authored and/or made a significant contribution to successful multi-year funding proposals and initiatives valued at more than $203 million from municipal, provincial, federal, and international governments. Within her executive leadership role with Invest Ottawa, Bayview Yards and Area X.O, Sonya plays a pivotal role in developing, leading, and executing strategy for all three organizations. This includes: • Area X.O, the futureplex of innovation and collaboration for next-generation smart mobility, connectivity and autonomy technologies; • The Women Founders and Owners Strategy and Action Plan. This includes co-founding SheBoot, the investment-ready bootcamp for women tech founders designed and delivered by women entrepreneurs and investors, and founding International Women’s Week in Canada’s Capital; and International Women’s Week. • The first Pan-Ontario Scale-Up Platform of its kind aimed at enabling and accelerating the growth, scaleup and commercial success of more $100 million revenue-generating tech companies in Canada. Sonya launched her career as the Manager of Communications and Member of the Vice-Presidential Cabinet with the 10G Organization of Optical Networks for Nortel from 1999 to 2002, and then served as the Director of Marketing Communications for CMC Microsystems until 2007. Building on a decade of experience, Sonya launched her own strategy company in 2008, addressing the needs of S&T organizations, innovation, entrepreneurship and economic development agencies across Canada, and their partners around the world. She currently serves Vice President of Strategy, Marketing and Communications for Invest Ottawa, lead economic development agency for knowledge-based industries in Canada’s Capital. Sonya is a Director of the Institute of Mental Health Research of the Royal Ottawa Hospital, Elevate International, and Mindtrust Leadership. She also serves as mentor and pitch coach with Women in Cloud, AI North America, and Technovation. She holds a Combined Honours in English and Political Science from Carleton University and has won 10+ international awards for communications, leadership, and women’s economic empowerment. Sonya Shorey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sonyashorey/ Invest Ottawa: https://www.investottawa.ca/ Ottawa Board of Trade: https://www.ottawabot.ca/ Ottawa Tourism: https://ottawatourism.ca/en

    37 min

  6. MAY 29

    117. Reflections on the Learning Ideas Conference - Mini interviews with speakers

    This is a special episode that features seven mini-interviews with speakers at last year’s Learning Ideas Conference, which was held at Columbia University in New York City. As we approach the Learning Ideas Conference 2025, taking place from June 11th to 13th, I reflect on last year’s conference and the conversations I had with some of the speakers, including the three keynote speakers. Learning Ideas Conference: https://www.learningideasconf.org The interviews can be found at the following timestamps: 0:08:25 Prof. Chris Dede Associate Director for Research, National AI Institute for Adult Learning and Online Education (AI-ALOE) Senior Research Fellow, Harvard Graduate School of Education Title of Talk: Complementing Human Minds with Digital Brains: The Role of GenAI in Learning Links: https://www.chrisdede.com 0:25:40 Dr. Alina von Davier Chief of Assessment at Duolingo Honorary Research Fellow at Oxford University Talk Title: Building Digital-first Assessments in the Age of Artificial Intelligence Links: https://www.education.ox.ac.uk/person/alina-von-davier/ 0:37:20 Dr. Christina Katopodis Senior Postdoctoral Research Associate CUNY Humanities Alliance Talk Title: Connecting Learners to Their Internal Motivations for Success Links: https://commons.gc.cuny.edu/members/ckatopodis/ 0:55:00 Sam Lee and Veronica Gomez Learning Design at McKinsey & Company Talk Title: Emerging Tech in Learning: From Overwhelming to Innovative Links: Sam Lee’s LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/junghwasamleeny/ Veronica Gomez’s LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/veronicagomezatencio/ 1:11:00 Mike Kentz Founder of AI Literacy Partners (ALP) Talk Title: Stop Grading Essays, Start Grading Chats Links: Substack: https://mikekentz.substack.com/p/a-new-assessment-design-framework ALP: https://www.litpartners.ai 1:25:45 Gary Dickelman, EPSScentral LLC and Jan Greenberg, National Center on Early Childhood Development, Teaching, and Learning (DTL) Talk Title: AI in Early Learning and How it Affects Higher Education and Workplace Learning Links: https://www.higheredandwork.org/gary-dickelman-bio https://www.linkedin.com/in/jan-greenberg-7252b1a/ 1:37:50 Teemu Patala, Co-founder & Cief Learning Officer, Airport College International Title of Talk: Fostering Innovation through Strategic Partnerships in Aviation Training Post-Pandemic Links: https://www.linkedin.com/in/teemu-patala-1b09562/ https://www.airportcollege.com

    1h 44m

  7. 11/29/2024

    Learning to Build the Career of Your Dreams (Dr Ilona Holland)

    Changing careers or building a business can be daunting, and it requires learning many new skills and being creative. In this episode, my guest is one of my former professors from the Harvard Graduate School of Education who has inspired me in the work that I do now as a workplace learning consultant. We discuss how she built a successful learning evaluation business, became a Harvard professor, and now established herself as a successful children’s book author. Dr Ilona Holland shares how limitations can be the mother of invention and the importance of looking for voids as you build the career of your dreams. Dr. Ilona E. Holland is an educator and award-winning children's author who inspires readers to ask questions and see the world with awe. Ilona spent over a decade of her professional life teaching at the Harvard Graduate School of Education. In addition, she conducted evaluations for PBS producers of programs like Martha Speaks, CyberChase, Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego, WordGirl, and Wild Kratt’s. Since retiring, she spends most of her time writing for children and visiting schools all over the world. Ilona’s titles have won state and national recognition and awards. Her first book, Buddy Bison’s Yellowstone Adventure is included in United Through Reading, a program that reaches 100,000 military families around the globe. Ilona’s other books have received first place awards given by the Delaware Press Association and the National Federation of Press Women. Her work has also been featured in Ed Magazine and her first book was selected as one of Hoda Kobt’s favorites. Ilona E. Holland Ed.D.: https://ilonaeholland.com

    55 min

  8. 11/14/2024

    Fostering Innovation with Emerging Tech in L&D (Sam Lee & Veronica Gomez)

    As new technologies like AI, are disrupting the way we work, there is an increasing need for effective ways to integrate these innovations into workflows. Learning to use new technologies effectively is a primary focus of learning teams around the world. But how can we quickly and proactively adapt to new technologies? McKinsey & Company’s Research & Innovation Learning Lab values developing capabilities that enable teams to stay current with their ever-changing landscape of emerging tech and lead through changes in the future. In this episode, I speak with two learning design experts who have developed a dynamic approach to fostering a culture of continuous learning and innovation with emerging tech, all within existing constraints. Sam Lee was a Learning Design Expert at McKinsey & Company at the New York City office and has recently transferred to Microsoft. With over a decade of experience in workplace learning domains, she has served in learning design and product leadership roles to design, scale, and innovate learning journeys for a global audience, focusing on future-ready digital leadership and tech skills. Sam is passionate about merging learning science and emerging technologies like AI to enable hyper-personalized learning experiences at scale. Veronica Gomez is a learning design expert passionate about learning science and co-creating joyful learning experiences. She leads global design projects for some of McKinsey’s large learning initiatives and programs. Gomez has a master’s degree in educational technology and complements that with her psychology and web design background to build human-centered experiences that strive for equitable access to learning. Sam Lee’s LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/junghwasamleeny/ Veronica Gomez’s LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/veronicagomezatencio/ Future-proof L&D’s capabilities: three questions can guide your team toward fluency in emerging technologies (ATD Magazine): https://www.td.org/content/td-magazine/future-proof-lampdrsquos-capabilities

    46 min
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The Art & Science of Learning (TASL) Podcast connects ideas, people, and resources to inform and inspire exceptional learning experiences. Bridging the gap between research and practice across various industries promotes the cross-pollination of ideas to enhance learning for all. Through in-depth conversations with global leaders in learning, the TASL podcast aims to broaden the discussion on how we learn. In each episode, learning specialist Dr. Kinga Petrovai interviews industry leaders, academics, practitioners, and learning designers to explore various aspects of learning and development. These conversations weave together insights from around the globe and across industries, reaching listeners in 100 countries to inspire and inform innovations in lifelong learning.

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  • Creator
    Dr Kinga Petrovai
  • Years Active
    2020 - 2025
  • Episodes
    122
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