The Church Planting Podcast with Greg Nettle

Greg Nettle
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Join Greg Nettle as he hosts incredible difference-makers and leaders from around the world. Designed to help leaders advance God's kingdom in innovative and disruptive ways. Lean into learning while leading, hear stories of struggle & triumph, and explore the journey that is "church planting"... The podcast is powered by Stadia, a church planting organization whose vision is to see a world where every child has a church. For additional information, visit https://stadia.org/podcasts.

  1. OCT 29

    Joey Odom- Breaking the Phone Habit: Faith, Focus, and Real Connection

    In this episode of The Church Planting Podcast, host Greg Nettle talks with Joey Odom about the intersection of faith, technology, and personal health. Joey—co-founder of ReclaimWell—explains how constant proximity to our phones is reshaping our relationships, productivity, and even our spiritual lives. They discuss the concept of "digital thorns" — how smartphones, though powerful tools for discipleship and ministry, can choke out meaningful relationships and intimacy with God. Joey shares practical ways to reclaim time and attention, including simple steps like five minutes a day away from your phone, accountability within small groups, and setting "phone-free" zones for family or worship. Greg and Joey also explore how church leaders can model digital wellness within their teams using ReclaimWell, an app that helps track intentional time spent away from devices. The conversation closes with encouragement for leaders to lead by example, prioritize presence, and put down their phones—literally—to restore focus and relational depth.   Podcast Contents: 00:00 – 01:10 | Introduction: Greg Nettle welcomes Joey Odom and sets up the topic of technology and faith. 01:10 – 02:30 | The rise of digital discipleship—and the problem of "digital thorns." 02:30 – 06:00 | How our relationship with phones mirrors childhood attachments and impacts relationships. 06:00 – 08:45 | Practical steps to break constant proximity and reshape habits. 08:45 – 11:00 | Building healthy phone boundaries in families and small groups. 11:00 – 13:30 | Swapping phones, redefining dependence, and Jesus' parable of the thorns. 13:30 – 17:00 | Introducing ReclaimWell—a wellness and productivity tool for digital balance. 17:00 – 21:00 | How the app works: habit loops, team leaderboards, and tracking intentional time away. 21:00 – 23:00 | The power of "Let me put down my phone" and valuing relationships. 23:00 – 25:00 | Giving God the first fruits of your day—disconnecting to reconnect spiritually. 25:00 – 28:45 | How churches can adopt ReclaimWell and lead staff in digital wellness. 28:45 – 29:05 | Closing thoughts and call to action: visit reclaimwell.com.

    29 min

  2. OCT 8

    Jay Pathak on Calling, Cost, and Multiplying Churches

    In this episode of The Church Planting Podcast, Greg Nettle sits down with Jay Pathak, National Director of Vineyard USA and co-author of The Art of Neighboring. Jay shares his unexpected journey into church planting, from studying philosophy at Ohio State to planting Mile High Vineyard in Denver after 9/11. Key themes include: The power of a clear calling—and why clarity often means higher cost. The challenges of starting with little money, odd jobs, and slow growth. Why multiplying leaders is the foundation for multiplying churches. Lessons from The E-Myth on building for replication. Evangelism as the heartbeat of church planting, no matter the model or denomination. Jay encourages listeners to pray for God's heart for the marginalized and to stay focused on the essentials: leading people to Christ, making disciples, and training leaders. Podcast Contents 00:00–02:00 | Intro: Greg welcomes Jay Pathak, National Director of Vineyard USA 02:00–05:30 | Jay's Ohio State background & early call to ministry 05:30–09:00 | Planting Mile High Vineyard after 9/11: obstacles & slow growth 09:00–12:00 | The importance of a clear call—and its high cost 12:00–15:30 | Lessons from Carol Wimber: "Because it's going to be hard" 15:30–18:30 | Multiplication begins with multiplying leaders 18:30–21:30 | Insights from The E-Myth for church planting systems 21:30–23:30 | Evangelism as the heart of church planting 23:30–25:30 | Why unity across denominations matters for mission 25:30–26:30 | Final encouragement: focus on people, discipleship, and reproducing leaders

    27 min

  3. SEP 10

    The Resident-First Strategy That's Creating a Movement (with Brian Hofmeister)

    In this episode of The Church Planting Podcast, Greg Nettle sits down with Brian Hofmeister, founding pastor of Lakepoint Church in Muskego, Wisconsin. Brian shares the powerful story of how his church moved from a single church plant to becoming a multiplying, sending church. Key themes include: How a church of any size can invest in multiplication from the beginning Why Lakepoint committed 10% of its budget to future church plants—even in its early years Lessons learned from developing residents and sending planters during the COVID-19 pandemic A compelling vision for shared church family identity, including joint baptism services How to embed multiplication into your church's DNA and avoid burnout as a sending pastor Whether you're a new church planter, a pastor of an established congregation, or someone investing in church planting, Brian's practical wisdom will challenge and inspire you to think beyond your walls. 🎧 Listen to more episodes and explore church planting resources at Stadia.org. Connect with Brian and Lakepoint Church at https://www.lakepointmuskego.org. 01:15 - Why Milwaukee? Brian's background and calling 02:00 - Multiplication from day one: giving, sending, mindset 03:00 - Funding church plants as a small church 05:00 - Early attempts at developing church planters 06:00 - Lessons from failure and God's timing 08:00 - Year 8: Becoming a true sending church 09:30 - Residency structure and expectations 11:00 - Coaching residents toward launching 12:00 - Sending people: what the congregation commits 13:30 - Impact on Lakepoint's culture 14:30 - When the culture clicked: "Who's next?" 15:30 - Parenting metaphor: moving toward shared multiplication 16:30 - Partnering churches and co-parenting new plants 17:30 - The messy, slow process of residency and vision 18:30 - Training the next generation of multiplying churches 19:30 - Family reunion baptisms and shared wins 20:30 - Advice to new planters: start with generosity 21:30 - Exact budget %s Lakepoint committed early on 22:00 - Message to established churches: mentorship matters 23:30 - What the church was always meant to be 24:00 - Closing thoughts & future vision

    25 min

  4. AUG 27

    Ep. 120 - Why the Future Church Needs Multiple Income Streams (with Mark DeYmaz)

    In this episode of The Church Planting Podcast, host Greg Nettle welcomes Mark DeYmaz, founding pastor of Mosaic Church in Little Rock and a leading voice in the multiethnic church movement. Mark pulls back the curtain on how his church is thriving through missional vitality and church economics—generating revenue, leveraging real estate, serving the poor, and reaching their community with tangible expressions of the Gospel. Topics include: The three-legged church model (spiritual, social, financial). How Mosaic transformed a Kmart into a 100,000 sq. ft. center of ministry and enterprise. Why your church needs a nonprofit arm to access grants (including $80B in opioid funds available through 2038). The importance of long obedience in the same direction. Real stories of hope—including a homeless community preaching courage back to Mark. Helpful resources: Mosaix Network — conferences, coaching, and content Mark's books on Amazon Midtown Event Center – Mosaic's multi-use space This is a masterclass in leadership, sustainability, and Gospel innovation. A must-listen for every church leader looking to thrive in the 21st century. 01:00 - Mark's upcoming book on the Prayer of St. Francis 02:45 - Overview of Mosaic Church's mission and context 04:00 - Economic challenges of inner-city churches 06:00 - Transforming a former Kmart into a ministry hub 08:00 - "That is the church" — redefining what church looks like 09:00 - How to get started: shifting your mindset 10:00 - The 3-legged church model: spiritual, social, financial 12:00 - Creating a nonprofit to apply for grants 14:00 - Rethinking biblical stewardship 15:30 - Grants, real estate, and income strategies 17:00 - Opioid nexus grant: $80B available through 2038 18:30 - Mosaix Network and national conference 20:00 - Why it's the premier multiethnic church conference 21:00 - What excites Mark most about the future of church 22:00 - Matthew 5:16 and the power of visible good works 23:30 - Why sustainability takes 7–10 years (or more) 24:30 - Faith and tears: a homeless community encourages Mark 26:30 - Final thoughts and encouragement for church planters

    28 min

  5. JUL 23

    Ep. 119 - Steps to Real Change: John Ortberg on Addiction, Discipleship, and Church Growth

    In this powerful conversation, Greg Nettle sits down with author and pastor John Ortberg to discuss his newest book, Steps: A Guide to Transforming Your Life When Willpower Isn't Enough. Drawing inspiration from the 12 Steps of Alcoholics Anonymous, Ortberg reveals why this recovery-based model may actually be the most effective path to real spiritual transformation—for everyone, not just those with addiction. The conversation covers: How AA emerged from discipleship roots in the Oxford Group Why most churches struggle with a "wimpy Step One" How to foster communities of grace-filled vulnerability The critical role of desperation, community, and daily practices in spiritual growth How churches can implement the Steps curriculum and even start B12 groups (Bible + 12 Steps) John also shares about his free daily vodcast ministry, Become New, and upcoming resources for small groups and churches based on Steps, launching Fall 2025. Whether you're planting a church or trying to revitalize one, this episode offers practical wisdom and a compelling vision for deep, lasting discipleship. We hope you enjoy this podcast. For more info about Stadia Church Planting and how you can get involved, check out stadia.org. To connect with Greg Nettle, you can find him at GregNettle.com Episode Index 01:10 - John's new book *Steps* and its origin in the 12 Steps   03:00 - Why *Steps* is for everyone, not just addiction recovery   04:20 - The spiritual roots of AA and the Oxford Group   06:00 - The power of weakness and the gift of desperation   08:00 - Greg shares a baby dedication story and his own approval addiction   10:20 - Why churches struggle with a "wimpy Step One"   12:00 - Biblical examples of desperation and robust transformation   13:20 - How desperation leads to discipleship intensity   14:00 - Discipleship as both program and fellowship   16:00 - Why church needs to be more like an AA meeting   17:30 - The power of confession and shared inadequacy   19:00 - Appropriate vulnerability for pastors and leaders   21:00 - How to help your church take real steps toward transformation   22:20 - Real-life church examples like the "B12 class"   24:00 - Free video curriculum for *Steps* coming Fall 2025   25:15 - Final thoughts: encouragement for church planters

    27 min

  6. JUL 9

    The Quiet Revival: Why Gen Z Is Coming Back to Church (with Dave Ferguson)

    In this powerful episode of The Church Planting Podcast, Greg Nettle is joined by long-time friend and influential church leader Dave Ferguson. Dave is the founding pastor of Community Christian Church, president of Exponential, and co-founder of the global church planting network NewThing—now integrated into Exponential. The conversation covers: Dave's personal and organizational transitions, including appointing a new lead pastor at Community A deep dive into his 5-step leadership apprenticeship model (from his book Hero Maker) His global perspective on a potential revival among Gen Z, especially in the UK The explosive growth of microchurches His upcoming book Multiplier (coming March 2026) Challenges the Church must face to reach the next generation, including creating safe, peace-filled spaces for those deconstructing or new to faith A must-listen for anyone passionate about multiplication, innovation, and the future of the Church. 01:15 – Dave's leadership transition at Community Christian   04:05 – Merging NewThing into Exponential   06:40 – Dave's new role as CEO of Exponential   08:00 – Life Planning: What it is and who should do it   12:00 – 5-Step Apprenticeship Model explained   15:20 – Preview of Dave's new book: *Multiplier*   16:15 – The "Quiet Revival" among Gen Z in the UK   19:45 – US stats: A spiritual shift is happening   21:18 – Church hurt & challenges for church multiplication   23:00 – Peace as the new apologetic   24:30 – Global microchurch movement—how it started   27:00 – Story: 177+ microchurches through online training   29:00 – Why now is the time to empower global leaders   29:50 – Final encouragement & close

    31 min

  7. JUN 25

    Ep. 117 - Micro and Multiethnic Churches and the Future of Church Planting (w/ Dr. Liz Rios and Rev. Len Tang)

    Greg sits down with Dr. Liz Rios (Founder of Passion2Plant) and Rev. Len Tang (Director of the Fuller Church Planting Initiative) to explore the expanding world of multiethnic, micro, and digital church planting. They unpack the rapid growth of microchurches, the increasing leadership of women of color in church planting, and the redefinition of success beyond outdated metrics. The conversation also dives into the barriers multiethnic leaders face—especially in funding and power-sharing—and the urgent need for new pipelines that elevate diverse leaders. Get practical ideas and inspiration for: Starting and supporting digital faith communities Funding justice-centered churches Co-vocational and multi-vocational planting models Joining the Multiethnic Church Planting Collaborative Training through Passion2Plant   01:45 – The rise of microchurches and reimagined planting models 03:30 – Global influence on U.S. microchurch models 04:00 – Women of color stepping into church planting 05:00 – Digital and micro as natural expressions for multiethnic women leaders 06:30 – Letting go of traditional church planting metrics 07:00 – Digital church planting: cost, reach, and community impact 08:30 – Examples of digital church leaders reinvesting in their communities 10:00 – Financial sustainability and co-/tri-vocational leadership 12:00 – Challenges in multiethnic church planting: politics and funding 13:00 – Expanding the definition of multiethnic: immigrant, ethnic-specific, multiracial 14:30 – Power sharing and leadership dynamics in multiethnic models 18:45 – Kingdom diversity: Galatians and Revelation visions 20:00 – Demographic shifts and the need for diverse leadership pipelines 21:30 – Opportunities: Black church planting summit, Stadia's statement of lament 23:00 – Slowing down, building trust, and unlearning systems 26:30 – How to get involved: Passion2Plant and Fuller's Collaborative 28:00 – Final encouragement and closing thoughts

    30 min

  8. JUN 11

    From Church Planter to Tech CEO: Dean Sweetman & the Future of Church Tech

    In this episode, Greg Nettle talks with Dean Sweetman, co-founder and co-CEO of Tithely, a digital giving platform now used by over 50,000 churches worldwide. Dean shares his remarkable journey from being a high school dropout and aspiring surfer in Australia to planting over 60 churches globally and building a church tech company processing billions in donations annually. Key highlights: Dean's unconventional path into church planting across Asia, Africa, and North America. Why demographic research + Holy Spirit leading matters when choosing a church plant location. How a Starbucks app experience inspired the creation of Tithely. The impact of recurring digital giving on financial stability for churches. Future of church tech: AI, VR, and holographic gospel preaching. Resources mentioned: Tithely's free tools for church planters (https://get.tithe.ly/) Stadia Church Planting (https://stadia.org) Learn more about church planting with Stadia: https://stadia.org/discovery 01:18 – Dean's early life & conversion story   02:44 – Becoming a youth pastor and seminary in Australia   04:10 – Global missions & planting churches in Asia and Africa   06:08 – Real estate and bi-vocational ministry   07:30 – Choosing Atlanta for church planting   09:13 – The power of sending leaders to plant   11:00 – Planting 60+ churches through C3 movement   13:07 – The Starbucks moment: inspiration for Tithely   16:09 – Launching the first giving app with his son   17:11 – Sabbatical and shifting from pastor to entrepreneur   18:28 – Explosive growth during COVID (12K churches in 6 weeks)   20:14 – Building an all-in-one church platform   21:11 – Discipleship through digital giving   23:31 – Tech adoption in younger generations   24:18 – Getting started with Tithely   25:01 – Power of recurring giving   26:15 – AI, AR, and the future of church tech

    31 min
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Join Greg Nettle as he hosts incredible difference-makers and leaders from around the world. Designed to help leaders advance God's kingdom in innovative and disruptive ways. Lean into learning while leading, hear stories of struggle & triumph, and explore the journey that is "church planting"... The podcast is powered by Stadia, a church planting organization whose vision is to see a world where every child has a church. For additional information, visit https://stadia.org/podcasts.

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