145 episodes

A biweekly podcast where hosts Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg interview the builders on the edge of AI and explore the dramatic shift it will unlock in the coming years.
The Cognitive Revolution is part of the Turpentine podcast network. To learn more: turpentine.co

"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis Turpentine

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A biweekly podcast where hosts Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg interview the builders on the edge of AI and explore the dramatic shift it will unlock in the coming years.
The Cognitive Revolution is part of the Turpentine podcast network. To learn more: turpentine.co

    Building Brave: Private Search, One AI Layer at a Time with Josep M. Pujol

    Building Brave: Private Search, One AI Layer at a Time with Josep M. Pujol

    In this episode of the Cognitive Revolution, join us as we dive into a compelling conversation with Josep M. Pujol, Chief of Search at Brave, about the complexities of developing a privacy-focused search engine. Explore how Brave maintains user data privacy while managing over 1 million searches per hour with an AI-powered system. Gain insights into the significance of human evaluation in AI and learn about the potential of the Brave Search API. Don't miss the shared Google collab notebook link in the show notes!

    🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj

    Google collab notebook : https://colab.research.google.com/drive/1AxQD-bDePl1l90A_gwvfAGXBIl92ERKy#scrollTo=WrhGZsvbxZy8

    SPONSORS:
    Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) is a single platform for your infrastructure, database, application development, and AI needs. OCI has four to eight times the bandwidth of other clouds; offers one consistent price, and nobody does data better than Oracle. If you want to do more and spend less, take a free test drive of OCI at https://oracle.com/cognitive
    The Brave search API can be used to assemble a data set to train your AI models and help with retrieval augmentation at the time of inference. All while remaining affordable with developer first pricing, integrating the Brave search API into your workflow translates to more ethical data sourcing and more human representative data sets. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://bit.ly/BraveTCR
    Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist.
    Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off https://www.omneky.com/

    Recommended Podcast:
    Byrne Hobart, the writer of The Diff, is revered in Silicon Valley. You can get an hour with him each week. See for yourself how his thinking can upgrade yours.
    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6rANlV54GCARLgMOtpkzKt
    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-riff-with-byrne-hobart-and-erik-torenberg/id1716646486

    CHAPTERS:
    (00:00:00) Introduction
    (00:05:46) Brave
    (00:07:52) How Brave collects data
    (00:10:45) The problem is not the data
    (00:14:02) How Brave builds its index
    (00:16:36) PageRank
    (00:21:07) Sponsors: Oracle | Brave
    (00:23:14) Brave Search
    (00:26:26) Hardware improvements
    (00:28:33) Language models
    (00:34:17) Noise reduction in vertical search
    (00:36:50) Fine-tuning models
    (00:43:09) Sponsors: Squad | Omneky
    (00:44:55) Ensemble approach
    (00:58:00) The future of the web
    (01:03:30) The business side of this
    (01:09:22) Brave Search users
    (01:14:21) Brave Search API vs. Google
    (01:20:00) Brave Search API Pricing
    (01:23:26) Brave Search API Use Cases

    • 1 hr 27 min
    Investing in AI for Hard Tech, with Eric Vishria of Benchmark and Sergiy Nesterenko of Quilter

    Investing in AI for Hard Tech, with Eric Vishria of Benchmark and Sergiy Nesterenko of Quilter

    Dive into the world of AI investments with Eric Vishria of Benchmark and Sergiy Nesterenko of Quilter. Explore the future of AI in hardware design, the strategies for venture capital investment in the AI era, and the impact on society. Discover why Benchmark has yet to invest in foundation model companies and the significance of solving enduring problems in this dynamic field. Join us for an eye-opening discussion on the intersection of AI technology and business innovation.

    🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj

    SPONSORS:
    Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) is a single platform for your infrastructure, database, application development, and AI needs. OCI has four to eight times the bandwidth of other clouds; offers one consistent price, and nobody does data better than Oracle. If you want to do more and spend less, take a free test drive of OCI at https://oracle.com/cognitive
    The Brave search API can be used to assemble a data set to train your AI models and help with retrieval augmentation at the time of inference. All while remaining affordable with developer first pricing, integrating the Brave search API into your workflow translates to more ethical data sourcing and more human representative data sets. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://bit.ly/BraveTCR
    Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist.
    Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off https://www.omneky.com/

    Recommended Podcast - The Riff with Byrne Hobart
    Byrne Hobart, the writer of The Diff, is revered in Silicon Valley. You can get an hour with him each week. See for yourself how his thinking can upgrade yours.
    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6rANlV54GCARLgMOtpkzKt
    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-riff-with-byrne-hobart-and-erik-torenberg/id1716646486

    CHAPTERS:
    (00:00:00) Introduction
    (00:10:12) The Idea Maze
    (00:12:28) Disruptive Approach
    (00:15:47) Sparse reward problem
    (00:18:26) Sponsors: Oracle | Brave
    (00:20:34) Reliability of the reward signal
    (00:28:12) Model size and compute
    (00:30:14) Simulation methods
    (00:35:48) Superhuman circuit board design
    (00:38:53) Sponsors: Squad | Omneky
    (00:40:38) What does the future of circuit board design look like?
    (00:43:11) How do I make money in AI?
    (00:46:18) What is cutting edge?
    (00:48:34) Researchers vs. engineers
    (00:50:51) Call for startups

    • 54 min
    Feeling the AGI with Flo Crivello

    Feeling the AGI with Flo Crivello

    In this episode of the Cognitive Revolution, Nathan engages in a critical dialogue with Flo Crivello on the trajectory of AI development. They touch upon the imminent arrival of AGI, the potential risks of a US-China AI arms race, and the complexities of AI safety and international cooperation. Explore their perspectives on regulation, technological progression, and the ethical dilemmas facing the AI community. This conversation is essential for anyone interested in understanding the challenges at the intersection of AI technology and global politics.

    🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj

    SPONSORS:
    Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) is a single platform for your infrastructure, database, application development, and AI needs. OCI has four to eight times the bandwidth of other clouds; offers one consistent price, and nobody does data better than Oracle. If you want to do more and spend less, take a free test drive of OCI at https://oracle.com/cognitive

    The Brave search API can be used to assemble a data set to train your AI models and help with retrieval augmentation at the time of inference. All while remaining affordable with developer first pricing, integrating the Brave search API into your workflow translates to more ethical data sourcing and more human representative data sets. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://bit.ly/BraveTCR

    Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist.

    Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off https://www.omneky.com/

    Recommended Podcast - The Riff with Byrne Hobart
    Byrne Hobart, the writer of The Diff, is revered in Silicon Valley. You can get an hour with him each week. See for yourself how his thinking can upgrade yours.
    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6rANlV54GCARLgMOtpkzKt
    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-riff-with-byrne-hobart-and-erik-torenberg/id1716646486


    CHAPTERS:

    (00:00:00) Introduction
    (00:11:14) GPT-4.0
    (00:14:56) AI arms race
    (00:18:23) Devon and GitHub workspaces
    (00:20:08) Sponsors: Oracle | Brave
    (00:22:16) The AGI discourse
    (00:25:29) The invisible protection
    (00:29:33) AI arms race
    (00:34:41) Stalling out
    (00:38:33) P(doom)
    (00:43:38) China
    (00:43:38) Sponsors: Squad | Omneky
    (00:45:24) Government
    (00:48:05) What should we do?
    (00:51:35) Open sourcing models
    (00:54:17) Manhattan Project for Alignment
    (00:57:26) Current State of Play
    (01:01:39) How much more mundane utility can we get?
    (01:04:54) How much of what we are building is future proof?
    (01:07:41) Adoption, acceleration, hyperscaling, pause
    (01:10:17) OpenAI leadership
    (01:14:32) Future of Live Players
    (01:17:38) Big Tech Singularity
    (01:21:30) AGI is Coming

    • 1 hr 25 min
    Inside Google’s AI Studio with Logan Kilpatrick

    Inside Google’s AI Studio with Logan Kilpatrick

    Join us for an engaging chat with Logan Kilpatrick where we discuss the latest AI developments and Google's strategy in pushing the boundaries of artificial intelligence. Learn about the competitive state of AI, the groundbreaking Gemini 1.5 Flash model, and get a glimpse into the future of AI fine-tuning. Gain insights on Google DeepMind's research and its impact, the differences between various Google AI products, and debunking AI rumors. Whether you're an AI enthusiast or a professional in the field, this conversation with an AI industry insider offers valuable perspectives on applying AI in business and understanding the rapid advancements in this dynamic sector.

    🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj

    SPONSORS:
    Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) is a single platform for your infrastructure, database, application development, and AI needs. OCI has four to eight times the bandwidth of other clouds; offers one consistent price, and nobody does data better than Oracle. If you want to do more and spend less, take a free test drive of OCI at https://oracle.com/cognitive
    The Brave search API can be used to assemble a data set to train your AI models and help with retrieval augmentation at the time of inference. All while remaining affordable with developer first pricing, integrating the Brave search API into your workflow translates to more ethical data sourcing and more human representative data sets. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://bit.ly/BraveTCR

    Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist.

    Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off https://www.omneky.com/

    Recommended Podcast - The Riff with Byrne Hobart
    Byrne Hobart, the writer of The Diff, is revered in Silicon Valley. You can get an hour with him each week. See for yourself how his thinking can upgrade yours.
    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6rANlV54GCARLgMOtpkzKt
    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-riff-with-byrne-hobart-and-erik-torenberg/id1716646486

    CHAPTERS:
    (00:00:00) Introduction
    (00:07:29) Google culture
    (00:11:01) DeepMind and Google
    (00:15:49) Native multimodality
    (00:18:17) Sponsors: Oracle | Brave
    (00:20:24) What to focus on
    (00:23:40) LMSYS leaderboard
    (00:27:46) Rumors
    (00:36:32) AI is too cheap to meter
    (00:39:17) Open AI Assistant
    (00:40:14) Sponsors: Squad | Omneky
    (00:41:59) Dogfooding
    (00:48:58) AI Studio
    (00:52:28) Native Multimodal
    (00:55:57) VideoFX
    (01:01:09) Competition
    (01:04:07) What to do with AGI
    (01:09:19) Closing

    • 1 hr 12 min
    The Implications of AI on the Global Balance of Power with Alex Wang, Andrew Ng, Jack Clark and Cory Booker

    The Implications of AI on the Global Balance of Power with Alex Wang, Andrew Ng, Jack Clark and Cory Booker

    Tune in to today's special episode airing a recent panel with the founders of Scale AI, Anthropic, and AI Fund who gathered in Washington DC to discuss China as an adversary. They argue that the papers out of Tsinghua University are just as impressive as those coming out of American universities. China is just as creative, but maybe even more motivated. While discussions of regulations have encompassed certain restraints, Alex Wang, Andrew Ng, and Jack Clark argue that we’re not moving fast enough (moderated by US senator Cory Booker).
    This session was recorded live at The Hill & Valley Forum in 2024, a private bipartisan community of lawmakers and innovators committed to harnessing the power of technology to address America's most pressing national security challenges. The Hill & Valley podcast is part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: www.turpentine.co

    🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj

    RECOMMENDED PODCAST - The Riff with Byrne Hobart
    Byrne Hobart, the writer of The Diff, is revered in Silicon Valley. You can get an hour with him each week. See for yourself how his thinking can upgrade yours.
    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6rANlV54GCARLgMOtpkzKt
    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-riff-with-byrne-hobart-and-erik-torenberg/id1716646486

    SPONSORS:
    Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) is a single platform for your infrastructure, database, application development, and AI needs. OCI has four to eight times the bandwidth of other clouds; offers one consistent price, and nobody does data better than Oracle. If you want to do more and spend less, take a free test drive of OCI at https://oracle.com/cognitive

    The Brave search API can be used to assemble a data set to train your AI models and help with retrieval augmentation at the time of inference. All while remaining affordable with developer first pricing, integrating the Brave search API into your workflow translates to more ethical data sourcing and more human representative data sets. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://bit.ly/BraveTCR

    Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist.

    Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off https://www.omneky.com/

    CHAPTERS:
    (00:00) Intro
    (03:29) Assembling the founders of Anthropic, Scale AI, and AI Fund
    (04:45) Predictions for AGI
    (08:21) Navigating AI innovation amidst regulation
    (16:15) Global AI competition and the urgency of Innovation
    (24:34) Empowering future generations

    • 33 min
    AI Scouting Report: NOT Investment Advice Edition

    AI Scouting Report: NOT Investment Advice Edition

    Tune in to this special episode of the Cognitive Revolution for AI scouting report. We cover the state of the art in AI applications for medicine, key AI concepts, and how these technologies could influence society.

    SPONSORS:
    Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) is a single platform for your infrastructure, database, application development, and AI needs. OCI has four to eight times the bandwidth of other clouds; offers one consistent price, and nobody does data better than Oracle. If you want to do more and spend less, take a free test drive of OCI at https://oracle.com/cognitive
    The Brave search API can be used to assemble a data set to train your AI models and help with retrieval augmentation at the time of inference. All while remaining affordable with developer first pricing, integrating the Brave search API into your workflow translates to more ethical data sourcing and more human representative data sets. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://bit.ly/BraveTCR
    Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist.
    Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off https://www.omneky.com/

    RECOMMENDED PODCAST - The Riff with Byrne Hobart
    Byrne Hobart, the writer of The Diff, is revered in Silicon Valley. You can get an hour with him each week. See for yourself how his thinking can upgrade yours.
    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6rANlV54GCARLgMOtpkzKt
    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-riff-with-byrne-hobart-and-erik-torenberg/id1716646486

    CHAPTERS:
    (00:00:00) Introduction
    (00:06:13) Current State of the Art
    (00:08:34) Medicine
    (00:13:49) AI limitations
    (00:17:01) AI capabilities
    (00:17:02) Sponsors: Oracle | Brave
    (00:19:09) How AI works
    (00:24:05) Information processing
    (00:28:51) Curated data sets
    (00:32:52) Sponsors: Squad | Omneky
    (00:34:38) Transformer
    (00:37:11) Scaling
    (00:39:59) Emergence
    (00:44:03) Grokking
    (00:50:30) Best practices for business
    (00:53:38) Live Players
    (00:58:33) What to Watch
    (01:00:35) Final Thoughts

    • 1 hr 4 min

Customer Reviews

4.6 out of 5
59 Ratings

59 Ratings

Wightout ,

I enjoy this a lot and you might too

The cognitive revolution is an amazing podcast that has really captured my interest. The host talks with AI experts about the significant ways artificial intelligence is reshaping our world. Each episode is deep and insightful, making me come back to listen to some of them more than once. It’s a great resource for anyone curious about the impact of AI across various fields.

Pluteski ,

Excellent content, but…

…. Difficult to understand due to the sound. Perhaps invest in better microphone for the host and ensure that the guests use them too.

JohnW8111 ,

Terrific AI podcast

Nathan does a great job to find important and interesting material to share with the audience on a regular basis. He has a diverse group that he interviews, and I appreciate when he works deeply on the subject and then just does a long monologue to explain his thinking. This is one of the best AI podcasts going

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