The Disability Tangent

Christy Bloemendaal and Rocco Catrone
The Disability Tangent

All things Disability.  Many things not.  Join us to learn, to vent, to network, to find out about cool people doing cool advocacy work, and a whole lot of other stuff.  We laugh, curse, cry and generally carry on about the policies, procedures, and people standing in our way.  But mostly we celebrate all the joy and love and beauty that is found in this amazing community, and share all of that with you.  So jump in.  Join the journey to better access and inclusion. We are just starting out on this fabulous trip and you are welcome to share the ride.   Hosted by Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

  1. E13 Nanni Presti: Holistic Disability Support (Scientific Rigor; Not Religion or Rigidity)

    NOV 13

    E13 Nanni Presti: Holistic Disability Support (Scientific Rigor; Not Religion or Rigidity)

    Grab your glass of vino and sit back for this engaging interview with Dr. Nanni Presti in Sicily. Nanni shares about the history, the psychology, and the community engagement surrounding his work in behavioral analysis and challenges our perceptions of the science. In short, the United States is doing everything wrong. But there is hope and there is a lot of opportunity for change! Dive into this deep episode with us and look at how holistic thinking and scientific rigor can make a big difference in the supports offered to people with disabilities. And so much more! Please click this link to find the transcript for this podcast: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SeDlFWtxmieEfi_qvTWsV-U8vzY2PTunThUFiHJ4GGk/edit?usp=sharing  Dr. Giovambattista “Nanni” Presti (Find him at the KUBE Lab Page and read his work on ResearchGate) Video Editor: Isaac Harvey MBE If you are interested in joining GAIN or learning more, fill out this Google form: https://forms.gle/CoivXmAyWULYutjH6  We would love to hear from you! If you are comfortable doing so, please fill out this anonymous survey here to give feedback about this episode: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdxho3U0apY496UgysftBUmMioUpcVkImdNoYirYCalaPqKKw/viewform?usp=sf_link  If you would like to contact us directly, or want to share your thoughts about the topics in this episode, please email at disabilitytangent@gmail.com  Time Stamps: (Click on any of the following terms which are linked to more information) 00:02:18: Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) 00:02:46: ACT Italia 00:04:35: Ettore Caracciolo 00:04:36: Paolo Moderato  00:04:41: IESCUM 00:05:38: Agosotino Bassi 00:05:52: KORE University 00:09:38: Applied Behavior Analysis International (ABAI) 00:09:58: European Association for Behavior Analysis  00:13:29: ARTICLE - Behaviourism and the science of behavior: Its development in Italy - Nanni Presti and colleagues 00:13:39: Contextual Behavioral Science (CBS) 00:14:59: Relational Frame Theory (RFT) 00:15:56: Behavioral Economics 00:16:57: Behavior Analysis and Robotics  00:36:00: Il Totrellante  00:37:10: I Ragazzi di Sipario 01:12:08: BOOK - Behavioral Economics and the Environment 01:12:29: BOOK - Environmental Problems and Behavioral Solutions Listen on: Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/2ajgOs5PJZD2gbs951o6ZV Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-disability-tangent/id1733954513  Deezer - https://www.deezer.com/show/1000729662 Podcast Addict - https://podcastaddict.com/podcast/the-disability-tangent/4988988 Amazon Music - https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/d24059fe-fcef-4f80-bf92-1d539753d05a PodChaser - https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/the-disability-tangent-5640635 ListenNotes - https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-disability-tangent-christy-bloemendaal-WMeiT2B49Ho/ Podcast Index - https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6816146

    1h 32m
  2. E12 Fixing or Finding Authenticity in Disability (You Don't Want to Sound Like Hillary Clinton)

    OCT 23

    E12 Fixing or Finding Authenticity in Disability (You Don't Want to Sound Like Hillary Clinton)

    Another Tangent hits the airwaves and this time Rocco and Christy are talking about "Fixing". What is it? What does it mean in the context of disability? How do we keep from making disabled people feel wrong, or broken? And what helps us find authentic, empowering community? Jump in to this topic with us as we stumble upon some wisdom--and a little chaos, and a little laughter, and a little weirdness. We look at some models of disability, some ways to address access needs, and some personal stories that tie in to it all. Please click this link to find the transcript for this podcast: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-TN8jteUlw2uiv34pqt7XYmzt9esUBP9Gh5sCw_pv-g/edit  On this tangent episode, Christy and Rocco talk about “fixing” disability and the role of the community is forcing masking peoples’ behavior.  If you are interested in joining GAIN or learning more, fill out this Google form: https://forms.gle/CoivXmAyWULYutjH6  We would love to hear from you! If you are comfortable doing so, please fill out this anonymous survey here to give feedback about this episode: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdxho3U0apY496UgysftBUmMioUpcVkImdNoYirYCalaPqKKw/viewform?usp=sf_link  If you would like to contact us directly, or want to share your thoughts about the topics in this episode, please email at disabilitytangent@gmail.com  Time Stamps: 01:36: What is “fixing” disability mean? 05:07: EMDR 08:16: Masking 15:31: Spider-Man Meme 21:31: Models of Disability 29:48: Ableism 35:49: Becoming a Wheelchair User 43:45: Disability Regulation 48:39: Building Community 50:37: Review of Pathologizing Disability  1:03:39: Workarounds and Disability Bandwidth Listen on: Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/2ajgOs5PJZD2gbs951o6ZV Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-disability-tangent/id1733954513  Deezer - https://www.deezer.com/show/1000729662 Podcast Addict - https://podcastaddict.com/podcast/the-disability-tangent/4988988 Amazon Music - https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/d24059fe-fcef-4f80-bf92-1d539753d05a PodChaser - https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/the-disability-tangent-5640635 ListenNotes - https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-disability-tangent-christy-bloemendaal-WMeiT2B49Ho/ Podcast Index - https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6816146 Hosted by Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

    1h 19m
  3. E11 Sex on the Spectrum 2 (Do You Want a Coupon?)

    OCT 2

    E11 Sex on the Spectrum 2 (Do You Want a Coupon?)

    The second half of a fantastic conversation with Suzannah Weiss! We jump back in to chatting about neurodiversity and dating, relationships and sex. There is so much good content, and some hard content so trigger warnings, y'all. How to break out of societal boundaries, do we forgive people who have violated our boundaries, and what do we do when people don't seem to respect that we can't meet the expectations society sets for us. Lots of wisdom. Lots of laughs. Lots of concerns about when we will break for lunch. It is all in this episode! Grab a slice, and give it a listen! (Seriously, you'll be hungry by the end. We all were. Even the dog.) Part 2 of 2! (access part 1 here: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6UtoGtQO0E4zUajJbgZPat?si=nnxxPE8qRV-dvnmDuDtuhQ ) CONTENT WARNING: This episode, as with part 1, talks about and refers to sexual violence and other related topics. If you or anyone have experienced this and need additional resources, please contact Rape, Abuse and Incest National Network (RAINN) either via chat online at online.rainn.org or via phone at 001.800.656.4673  Please click this link to find the transcript for this podcast:  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1blLrna_S1AMMHjlH1Fb8c9-3oQ8kChv7TXXbEpveIpo/edit?usp=sharing  Guests on this episode: Suzannah Weiss, MPS, CSE (Website :: Linkedin) If you are interested in joining GAIN or learning more, fill out this Google form: https://forms.gle/CoivXmAyWULYutjH6  Check out Biird at: https://www.biird.co/  We would love to hear from you! If you are comfortable doing so, please fill out this anonymous survey here to give feedback about this episode: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdxho3U0apY496UgysftBUmMioUpcVkImdNoYirYCalaPqKKw/viewform?usp=sf_link  If you would like to contact us directly, please email at disabilitytangent@gmail.com  Time Stamps: 01:54 - Embodied Consent  00:23 - Likelihood increased for PWDs being assaulted or raped 05:47 - Masking 11:30 - Facial Blindness 37:15 - The Male Gaze  46:29 - “Subjectified: Becoming a Sexual Subject” book by Suzannah Weiss 47:15 - Courses run by Suzannah  48:15 - Desexualization of Autistic People  Listen on: Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/2ajgOs5PJZD2gbs951o6ZV Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-disability-tangent/id1733954513  Deezer - https://www.deezer.com/show/1000729662 Podcast Addict - https://podcastaddict.com/podcast/the-disability-tangent/4988988 Amazon Music - https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/d24059fe-fcef-4f80-bf92-1d539753d05a PodChaser - https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/the-disability-tangent-5640635 Hosted by Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

    1h 10m
  4. E10 Sex on the Spectrum with Suzannah Weiss (This is Now a Therapy Session)

    SEP 11

    E10 Sex on the Spectrum with Suzannah Weiss (This is Now a Therapy Session)

    Suzannah Weiss, author of Subjectified: Becoming a Sexual Subject joins us to talk about her book and so. much. more. In fact, we had so much to talk about that we are continuing the conversation in the next episode. We discuss some challenging topics, so a warning to those who might want to steer clear of this one or seek out supports, or listen with friends. Sex and neurodivergence start us off but that leads to stories and statistics of sexual coercion, assaults, and how we can begin to shape our own behaviors to stay safer and state needs. There is a lot to unpack about how disability diagnosis can lead to damaging situations. But we also have a lot of quirky fun as we dive into this subject matter! Christy loses her train of thought. Rocco takes us on a tangent. And Suzannah asks some really good questions of our hosts, turning the tangent tables on us! So get ready for a great time with the person we may just make our resident sexologist, and move her on into the studio (aka Christy's guest room) because we are smitten. (Christy is. Christy is smitten. Rocco is happily married, y'all.) Part 1 of 2!  Please click this link to find the transcript for this podcast:  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d6lsdDSfjhFUe72tv8bniO98J-AX8tVnM7uWvPBSC80/edit?usp=sharing  Guests on this episode: Suzannah Weiss, MPS, CSE, writer and resident sexologist for Biird (Website :: Linkedin) Check out Biird at https://www.biird.co/ If you are interested in joining GAIN or learning more, fill out this Google form: https://forms.gle/CoivXmAyWULYutjH6  We would love to hear from you! If you are comfortable doing so, please fill out this anonymous survey here to give feedback about this episode: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdxho3U0apY496UgysftBUmMioUpcVkImdNoYirYCalaPqKKw/viewform?usp=sf_link  If you would like to contact us directly, please email at disabilitytangent@gmail.com  Time Stamps: 02:15 - Courses run by Suzannah  02:21 - “Subjectified: Becoming a Sexual Subject” book by Suzannah Weiss 03:01 - AASECT conference  05:01 - Desexualization of Autistic People  07:16 - The Male Gaze  14:42 - Article Written by Suzzanah (including New York Times and Washington Post)  15:59 - Embodied Consent  28:34 - Likelihood increased for PWDs being assaulted or raped 33:52 - Gaslight  34:16 - The Falling State Podcast with Suzannah as Guest 40:44 - Incel movement  44:02 - Masking Listen on: Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/2ajgOs5PJZD2gbs951o6ZV Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-disability-tangent/id1733954513  Deezer - https://www.deezer.com/show/1000729662 Podcast Addict - https://podcastaddict.com/podcast/the-disability-tangent/4988988 Amazon Music - https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/d24059fe-fcef-4f80-bf92-1d539753d05a PodChaser - https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/the-disability-tangent-5640635

    49 min
  5. E9 Stacey Hamm on Hidden Disabilities at Will Rogers World Airport (Rocco Arrives Precisely When He Means To)

    AUG 21

    E9 Stacey Hamm on Hidden Disabilities at Will Rogers World Airport (Rocco Arrives Precisely When He Means To)

    Accessibility at Will Rogers World Airport has seen some major changes in recent years and Stacey Hamm is here to tell us all about it! We chat about the Oklahoma City airports commitment to getting disability access right and how they are working toward this with the Hidden Disability Sunflower Lanyard Program and so much more. We also discover that Rocco is a wizard (as if you didn't know) and that Christy can loudly ramble on about unrelated tangential topics (as if you didn't know)! There is a lot to cover and Stacey is surprisingly good and answering questions that we have not yet even asked! So we cover it quickly! Fasten your seatbelts and keep your tray tables in the upright position y'all! Let's go! Please click this link to find the transcript for this podcast: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xYBZ5ogZ2H83YKUK2eeB2kD9W1mwIvupG_R9Jlfu-eE/edit?usp=sharing  Guests on this episode: Stacey Hamm  If you are interested in joining GAIN or learning more, fill out this Google form: https://forms.gle/CoivXmAyWULYutjH6  We would love to hear from you! If you are comfortable doing so, please fill out this anonymous survey here to give feedback about this episode: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdxho3U0apY496UgysftBUmMioUpcVkImdNoYirYCalaPqKKw/viewform?usp=sf_link  If you would like to contact us directly, please email at disabilitytangent@gmail.com  Time Stamps: 01:17 - OKC Airport - Will Rogers Airport 05:07 - Adult Changing Rooms in Airports 06:35 - Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) and Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) standards 07:24 - Sunflower Lanyard Program - Hidden Disabilities 39:51 - Transportation Security Association (TSA) Cares 42:25 - Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG) 52:06 - ADA Icon Standards Listen on: Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/2ajgOs5PJZD2gbs951o6ZV Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-disability-tangent/id1733954513  Deezer - https://www.deezer.com/show/1000729662 Podcast Addict - https://podcastaddict.com/podcast/the-disability-tangent/4988988 Amazon Music - https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/d24059fe-fcef-4f80-bf92-1d539753d05a PodChaser - https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/the-disability-tangent-5640635 Hosted by Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

    1h 1m
  6. E8 Deana Herrman on Disability and Language from a Practitioner and Parent Lens (Harassing Birds. FLY!)

    JUL 31

    E8 Deana Herrman on Disability and Language from a Practitioner and Parent Lens (Harassing Birds. FLY!)

    Dr. Deana Herrman, Professor, Physical Therapist, and Parent joins the discussion today and brings so much knowledge and perspective around how we speak. We talk about expertise, lived experience, extending our practice to include social determinants of health and so much more. Y'all Christy is still the loudest, but Deana is the fastest speaker we have had on the program and she is packing in the information like a Gilmore Girl on fire, so get ready. And speaking of loud, there may be yelling--be prepared for that as well. Apparently some passionate feels come out at the intersection of disability and healthcare! Who knew? But we're all friends, folx. No guests, or birds, were harmed in the making of this episode. Please click this link to find the transcript for this podcast:  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HlCPLa5BBnWqGC1LbDJxR08i23k51ChARL6Qn-fHSN8/edit?usp=sharing  Dr. Deana Herrman (Find them at the university site HERE and read their most recent article about disability inclusion on ResearchGate HERE) If you are interested in joining GAIN or learning more, fill out this Google form: https://forms.gle/CoivXmAyWULYutjH6  We would love to hear from you! If you are comfortable doing so, please fill out this anonymous survey here to give feedback about this episode: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdxho3U0apY496UgysftBUmMioUpcVkImdNoYirYCalaPqKKw/viewform?usp=sf_link  If you would like to contact us directly, or want to share your thoughts about the topics in this episode, please email at disabilitytangent@gmail.com  Time Stamps: (Click on any of the following terms which are linked to more information) 04:20: Americans with Disabilities Act 05:57 UIC Disabilities Studies PhD 07:39: Illinois LEND Fellowship 12:50 Social Determinants of Health  13:44: Disability Literacy  16:07: Article on Directions for field of PT to go written by Dr. Herrman and Colleagues 18:42: American Physical Therapy Association 18:52 Disability Justice Catalyst Group 37:43: Autism Acceptance  41:17: Article by Dr. Herrman and Colleague on Disability Language  01:08:31: “Way of Kings” by Brandon Sanderson - character Taravangian  01:11:13: Spoon Theory Listen on: Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/2ajgOs5PJZD2gbs951o6ZV Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-disability-tangent/id1733954513  Deezer - https://www.deezer.com/show/1000729662 Podcast Addict - https://podcastaddict.com/podcast/the-disability-tangent/4988988 Amazon Music - https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/d24059fe-fcef-4f80-bf92-1d539753d05a PodChaser - https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/the-disability-tangent-5640635 ListenNotes - https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-disability-tangent-christy-bloemendaal-WMeiT2B49Ho/ Podcast Index - https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6816146 Hosted by Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

    1h 25m
  7. E7 Ageism and Disability (Immortal Like The Highlander)

    JUL 10

    E7 Ageism and Disability (Immortal Like The Highlander)

    A tangent full of tangents explores the topic of age and how it relates to disability. We touch on milestones, mobility aids, and making assumptions and the way these relate to ableism as Rocco and Christy jump into this discussion. Learn more about the hosts as they share a bit about their personal journeys with illness in youth and how that contributed to their views on disability today. And, of course, be ready for some wild and wacky side conversation, because we can't seem to get through an episode without it--the name of the podcast says it all, folks. Tangents Away! Please click this link to find the transcript for this podcast: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1q56jg3p9gSOHbalxr5G0NIY2RpimXsnZM6lxAtArdlU/edit  If you are interested in joining GAIN or learning more, fill out this Google form: https://forms.gle/CoivXmAyWULYutjH6  We would love to hear from you! If you are comfortable doing so, please fill out this anonymous survey here to give feedback about this episode: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdxho3U0apY496UgysftBUmMioUpcVkImdNoYirYCalaPqKKw/viewform?usp=sf_link  If you would like to contact us directly, or want to share your thoughts about the topics in this episode, please email at disabilitytangent@gmail.com  Time Stamps: (Click on any of the following terms which are linked to more information) 05:17:     Challenger Space Shuttle Accident  28:48:     Wilms Tumor 29:31:     Inspiration Porn 35:25:     John Oliver Last Week Tonight–Corn  38:22:     Queen: Live Forever 38:24:     The Highlander 42:42:     Disability Scoop 45:58:     Axios Article 54:33:     Allport's Contact Theory 1:00:37:  Internalized Ableism 1:10:01:  Prosociality Listen on: Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/2ajgOs5PJZD2gbs951o6ZV Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-disability-tangent/id1733954513  Deezer - https://www.deezer.com/show/1000729662 Podcast Addict - https://podcastaddict.com/podcast/the-disability-tangent/4988988 Amazon Music - https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/d24059fe-fcef-4f80-bf92-1d539753d05a PodChaser - https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/the-disability-tangent-5640635 ListenNotes - https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-disability-tangent-christy-bloemendaal-WMeiT2B49Ho/ Podcast Index - https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6816146 Hosted by Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

    1h 21m
  8. E6 Disabled Researchers Part 2 (Reciprocal Co-humaning?)

    JUN 19

    E6 Disabled Researchers Part 2 (Reciprocal Co-humaning?)

    Round Two with Dr. Robin Arnall and Alexandra Elfers as we continue our discussions of autism, disability, power, passion, and how to be people through it all. You thought we touched on a lot last week? We were apparently just getting warmed up! There is so much more. And honestly, if we hadn't all run out of spoons (and perhaps also forks) we might have kept on talking for another two hours. This episode we hit on some controversies in the ABA community, how to be a good human, the challenge of masking--or not masking--as a neurodiverse human, and how consent has a complex history when it come to disability. Lots to unpack and we barely scratch the surface, but come along as we start to look at these issues in our second hour of conversation. Please click this link to find the transcript for this podcast: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qidDcv8rJeSdNnLZpp_cjSBnPc08cy6OynYBDVa1fWw/edit?usp=sharing  Guests on this episode: Dr. Robin Arnall (ResearchGate page) Alexandra Vassar (Elfers) (ResearchGate page) If you are interested in joining GAIN or learning more, fill out this Google form: https://forms.gle/CoivXmAyWULYutjH6  We would love to hear from you! If you are comfortable doing so, please fill out this anonymous survey here to give feedback about this episode: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdxho3U0apY496UgysftBUmMioUpcVkImdNoYirYCalaPqKKw/viewform?usp=sf_link  If you would like to contact us directly, please email at disabilitytangent@gmail.com  Time Stamps: 02:36 - AuDHD 02:59 - Empowering Autonomy: ASAP 03:32 - Ukeru Certified Trainer 05:10 - Autism ABA Controversy 11:50 - Lovvas Concerns 13:27 - Mahogany Mommies 17:38 - Jeremy Andrew Davis 19:44 - Texarkana Controversy 25:36 - CATU Assessment 31:25 - Gavin Neate and WelcoME from Episode 1 40:59 - Stereotypy 44:22 - Unified Cutlery Theory 46:57 - John Newton and Clearing Ancestral Trauma Listen on: Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/2ajgOs5PJZD2gbs951o6ZV Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-disability-tangent/id1733954513  Deezer - https://www.deezer.com/show/1000729662 Podcast Addict - https://podcastaddict.com/podcast/the-disability-tangent/4988988 Amazon Music - https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/d24059fe-fcef-4f80-bf92-1d539753d05a PodChaser - https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/the-disability-tangent-5640635 ListenNotes - https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-disability-tangent-christy-bloemendaal-WMeiT2B49Ho/ Podcast Index - https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6816146

    53 min

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All things Disability.  Many things not.  Join us to learn, to vent, to network, to find out about cool people doing cool advocacy work, and a whole lot of other stuff.  We laugh, curse, cry and generally carry on about the policies, procedures, and people standing in our way.  But mostly we celebrate all the joy and love and beauty that is found in this amazing community, and share all of that with you.  So jump in.  Join the journey to better access and inclusion. We are just starting out on this fabulous trip and you are welcome to share the ride.   Hosted by Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

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