21 episodes

The Future of Identity podcast talks to the people building the IDtech products of tomorrow. In each episode, Trinsic CEO Riley Hughes dives deep with founders and product builders to discuss their insights about what it takes to successfully launch an identity product. We hope you join us as we highlight the people at the forefront of making IDtech consumable for every day users and what is needed to reach mass adoption.As a leader in the self-sovereign identity movement, Trinsic has seen hundreds of companies attempt to use decentralized identity to build products that help people take control of their identity and data. Learn more about Trinsic at https://trinsic.id/.

The Future of Identity Riley Hughes

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The Future of Identity podcast talks to the people building the IDtech products of tomorrow. In each episode, Trinsic CEO Riley Hughes dives deep with founders and product builders to discuss their insights about what it takes to successfully launch an identity product. We hope you join us as we highlight the people at the forefront of making IDtech consumable for every day users and what is needed to reach mass adoption.As a leader in the self-sovereign identity movement, Trinsic has seen hundreds of companies attempt to use decentralized identity to build products that help people take control of their identity and data. Learn more about Trinsic at https://trinsic.id/.

    Phil Windley - Identity Metasystems and Lessons from Building the Sovrin Foundation

    Phil Windley - Identity Metasystems and Lessons from Building the Sovrin Foundation

    In this episode we talk with Phil Windley, Sr. Software Development Manager at AWS, Cofounder of IIW, former Chair of Sovrin Foundation. We talked about his experience building and leading the Sovrin Foundation, which at one point was almost synonymous with the term self-sovereign identity. It was set up to be an identity metasystem that would reinvent how identity was done online… and we talk about why it didn’t end up becoming that.
    Phil shares lessons from identity systems that got adopted, like the social login metasystem, as well as from things that didn’t get a lot of adoption, like certain identity blockchains and information cards a decade prior. We hope this an interesting episode. We’re glad we got to tell a small part of the Sovrin story as we think a lot of today’s reusable ID projects have their roots in the movement Sovrin started—including Trinsic. 
    To learn more about Phil you can visit his personal website https://windley.com/ where you'll find ways to contact him, and buy his new book.
    Subscribe to our weekly newsletter for more announcements related to the future of identity at trinsic.id/podcast
    Reach out to Riley (@rileyphughes) and Trinsic (@trinsic_id) on Twitter. We’d love to hear from you.

    • 35 min
    Nick Thomas: Finicity’s Journey from Personal Finance App to $985M Acquisition for their Open Banking Platform

    Nick Thomas: Finicity’s Journey from Personal Finance App to $985M Acquisition for their Open Banking Platform

    Today we talked with Nick Thomas, cofounder of Finicity, which was acquired by Mastercard, where Nick went on to be the EVP of Global Open Finance Innovation. Nick has a fascinating career that has paralleled digital identity for a long time, as a cofounder of Bluetooth and FDX, the major open banking standards body in the US. These are both organizations that brought an industry together around common standards to grow the market far bigger for everyone involved—and we talk lessons learned and how this applies to identity.
    Nick shares a deep look into Finicity’s story starting as a consumer application and eventually becoming a major data aggregator. Then we dive into Finicity’s journey disrupting themselves by pushing into open banking. We explore the work Finicity did with verifiable credentials as an issuer, and the big challenge that prevented them from rolling it out. You’ll appreciate all of his takes on the parallels between fintech and IDtech.
    To learn more about Nick you can find him on LinkedIn. 
    Subscribe to our weekly newsletter for more announcements related to the future of identity at trinsic.id/podcast
    Reach out to Riley (@rileyphughes) and Trinsic (@trinsic_id) on Twitter. We’d love to hear from you.

    • 38 min
    Jacques von Benecke: Launching National-Scale Self Sovereign Identity in Bhutan

    Jacques von Benecke: Launching National-Scale Self Sovereign Identity in Bhutan

    In this episode, we talk with Jacques von Benecke, CTO of DHI, the commercial and investment arm of the government of Bhutan. If you haven’t heard, Bhutan has launched one of the most complete SSI ecosystems in the world! We spent most of the time diving in to how it’s going since launching just a few months ago.
    We get into metrics, like how many users have onboarded, and the growth rate over time. We cover use cases, business models, governance, and more! We even cover how they productize wallets for accessibility, and we were amazed to hear they have iOS, Android, and web… but they have 11 other wallet configurations they’ve had to build to cover the whole population!
    Most of all it was really interesting to see what can happen when you have top-down mandate to develop better digital identity and a strong technology approach to execute.
    To learn more about Bhutan’s National Digital Identity initiative you can visit Bhutan NDI or listen to Jacques' interview on the (un)Trustables podcast.
    Subscribe to our weekly newsletter for more announcements related to the future of identity at trinsic.id/podcast
    Reach out to Riley (@rileyphughes) and Trinsic (@trinsic_id) on Twitter. We’d love to hear from you.

    • 52 min
    Jon Gelsey: Identity Product GTM Insight from Auth0’s Early Days

    Jon Gelsey: Identity Product GTM Insight from Auth0’s Early Days

    In this episode, we talk with Jon Gelsey, founding CEO of Auth0 Inc, which sold to Okta for $6.5B, as well as the CEO of Xnor.ai which he sold to Apple for $200m.
    Jon told the story of the early days of Auth0, including how they got their first $1m of revenue. Then we spent time diving in to how new technologies get adopted—Jon even went as far as saying that technology adoption is always incremental, not revolutionary.
    Then we talk about the role of big tech, and why he doesn’t think reusable identity will be dominated by massive incumbents. That led us to talk about what he would do if he were running a company whose business model could be cannibalized by reusable identity, which is that he would look to disrupt himself in a safe way.
    This was a rare look into some great advice from one of our industry’s best operators.
    To learn more about Jon, you can visit his LinkedIn profile.
    Subscribe to our weekly newsletter for more announcements related to the future of identity at trinsic.id/podcast
    Reach out to Riley (@rileyphughes) and Trinsic (@trinsic_id) on Twitter. We’d love to hear from you.

    • 36 min
    Harrison Tang: Spokeo’s Vision of a “People Search Engine” Powered by Verifiable Credentials

    Harrison Tang: Spokeo’s Vision of a “People Search Engine” Powered by Verifiable Credentials

    In this episode, we sit down with Harrison Tang, Co-founder and & CEO of Spokeo, which is a “people search engine”. Spokeo aggregates many sources of data about people and sells that data to verifiers. So at first blush, Harrison is an unlikely person to be a massive advocate for SSI and co-chair of the W3C Credentials Community Group.

    We dig in to why Spokeo cares about verifiable credentials, and how verifiable credentials represent the opportunity to deliver more trust to Spokeo’s customers and how they allow Spokeo to participate in the next wave of digital identity innovation. We also explore complex concepts like negative reputation and how AI will impact the personal data landscape. We finish out by talking about what current IDtech companies can learn from Spokeo’s early go-to-market and what it will take to get verifiable credential adoption.

    To learn more about Spokeo visit https://www.spokeo.com/ or follow Spokeo on social media (@Spokeo). You can find Harrison on social media as well (@tang_talks) and keep up with his latest thinking through his podcast ‘Tang Talks’.

    Reach out to Riley (@rileyphughes) and Trinsic (@trinsic_id) on Twitter. We’d love to hear from you.

    • 34 min
    Carlos Korten: Lessons Learned From Bindle’s Health Pass

    Carlos Korten: Lessons Learned From Bindle’s Health Pass

    In this episode, we chat with Carlos Korten, Co-founder & Chief Product Officer of Bindle Systems. Bindle built one of the largest private-sector deployments of decentralized identity in the USA, and Carlos shares tons of stories from the trenches of getting hundreds of thousands of consumers on board.

    We dive in to the go-to-market strategies Bindle employed, including how they sold directly to verifiers, and how if they could do it over again, Carlos would focus even more narrowly on verifiers. We talk about their business model and what they learned about making money with verifiable credentials. And we talk about some of Carlos’ hard-earned lessons that he recommends to anyone building an IDtech product.

    From discussing the founding of Bindle, its journey through the pandemic, and then the decision to pivot away from a COVID product, Carlos and Riley’s discussion makes for an engaging episode.

    To contact Carlos or to learn more about Bindle’s current focus, reach out to carlos@bindlesystems.com.

    Reach out to Riley (@rileyphughes) and Trinsic (@trinsic_id) on Twitter. We’d love to hear from you.

    • 46 min

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