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In this episode of The Jack & Chill Podcast, Jack and Xochitl talk about their experiences with loss and the grief that goes along with those experiences.
Transcript:
00:00:00
Xochitl
You are listening to the Jack and Chill podcast Jack. Today we have a little bit of a heavy topic brief Jack.
00:00:20
Xochitl
Your experiences with grief and how would you define it for our listeners?
00:00:24
발표자
OK.
00:00:25
Jack
Yeah. So grief is A is a a tough topic and for our listeners out there, grief is the emotion that you feel when.
00:00:33
Jack
Someone that you you loved, a loved one passes away or or dies.
00:00:39
Jack
And for me, I I never really experienced it.
00:00:47
Jack
I I I didn’t experience it for a long time because when I was born my 2 two of my grandparents were had already passed away or passed away when I was a baby. So you I just grew up never knowing my my grandfather on my father’s side.
00:01:07
Jack
And I grew up not knowing my grandmother on my mother’s side and my grandfather on my mother’s side was alive. But we we weren’t really in contact with him. He was an abusive alcohol.
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Jack
Alec and so growing up, there was a lot of.
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Jack
Stress in my my mother’s family because of my grandfather’s drinking and and when he was when I was in middle or sorry, elementary school, maybe fifth grade during summer camp, my grandfather passed away in a nursing home and my parents.
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Jack
Ask me, you know, do you want to go to the funeral?
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Jack
We’ll come pick you.
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Jack
Up or you can just stay at camp and.
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Jack
I just stayed at camp and I I really felt nothing. I, I I remember meeting him one time in the nursing home and it was just scary, you know, because it was all all these.
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Jack
Elderly, sick people, very thin and.
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Jack
I he I just. I didn’t have any relationship with him at all. So I I really only had my my father’s mother, my grandmother, and my father my father’s side.
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Jack
And she we called her Bubba. Uh and Bubba was the best. You know? She really.
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Jack
Filled in for all the for the other three grandparents that didn’t have I I wouldn’t trade, you know, four grandparents for for one, Bubba and yeah, ever. Because she was amazing. And and she lived to be 92 years old.
00:02:57
Jack
And so she passed. Maybe in, like, 2009. I think if I’m not mistaken, somewhere around there. Uh, my daughter was just a baby at the time and.
00:03:10
Jack
And I I felt.
00:03:11
Jack
Very, very sad, obviously because it’s it’s hard when you lose someone that you.
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Jack
Of but I also, on the other hand, she lived to be 92 years old, like she lived a very full life, a very long life. Yeah, I grew up in the Great Depression in America, in on a farm in South Dakota. So she was tough, you know.
00:03:27
Xochitl
Right.
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Jack
Tough as nails like there is no, she didn’t. She wasn’t a, you know, delicate person. You know, she grew up in the hard times in America and she.
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Jack
Married my my grandfather, who was a a mechanic in the military. He served in Panama building of the Panama Canal during World War 2. So, you know, it was there just just that famous, you know, kind of story.
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Jack
1950s, they had their children. They grew up in the 50s and 60s. My my father was in elementary school in the 50s and then high school and university in the 60s and early 70s.
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Jack
And so that was my first experience with with grief. But in the last three about three years ago, my one of my very, very close friends, I probably I have a best friend from high school and a best friend from college.
00:04:48
Jack
And my best friend from college passed away, and that was.
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Jack
You know it’s.
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Jack
He he was young, you know. I mean, not not. Maybe not not, you know, not not like in his 20s. He was in his his 40s but.
00:05:10
Xochitl
That’s young to pass. That’s very young to p

In this episode of The Jack & ‘Chill Podcast, Xochitl and Jack talk about medical emergencies.
Transcript:
00:00:03
Xochitl
Jack, you kind of had a scary experience, not kind of. You definitely had a scary experience this week. Do you want?
00:00:10
Xochitl
To tell our viewers about it.
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Jack
Yeah, I would, I.
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Jack
Would love to to share this. Some of our listeners out there who are students in our world English.
00:00:22
Jack
Google meets class.
00:00:24
Jack
I know that I’ve I have been absent lately. The last week or so, and about a week ago, my father had a a major heart attack which was terrifying, you know, for our family and when the.
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Jack
The doctors did tests and everything they found that basically.
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Jack
All the arteries and artery is like it’s like a tube that carries blood.
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Xochitl
Again, laser vein, right a major vein.
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Jack
Right. Because your heart pumps.
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Jack
Blood to the rest of your.
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Jack
Body and it and blood feeds into the heart and then it pumps out and.
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Jack
His his arteries were all blocked like they were up. Some of them were 99% blocked, which is, I mean, you’re he. He was not getting enough blood. Umm.
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Jack
And uh. And so he ended up having.
00:01:26
Jack
A heart attack.
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Jack
And you know, it’s the life when when you lived the life that social and I have lived like, where you work overseas.
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Jack
You’re so far away from home and it’s very difficult to receive news that your your family member is is really sick or having a very serious medical emergency.
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Jack
And so it was really. Here’s an English expression, touch and go and touch and go means it was very delicate. Like he was very close.
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Jack
To to death.
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Jack
And luckily my my brother and his his wife were visiting my parents and they both work in the medical profession.
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Jack
Motion and my brother noticed the symptoms in my father and and and brought him into the hospital, and my dad has not left the hospital since that time and he actually went and had a a, a quadruple bypass and quadruples.
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Jack
It just means 4 quad means 4.
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Jack
UM triple bypass means 3 double bypass means two and bypass means one and so he had a A4 bypasses quadruple bypass surgery where they connect arteries. They basically go around.
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Jack
The bad part of the artery? The the tube that carries blood into the heart and out of the heart. And they, you know, created new tubes that were clear.
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Jack
And clean and they take those tubes from other parts of your body, like from your leg. Or maybe your arm. I’m not sure. And and they harvest them. They they put them, they sew them into.
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Jack
Into the heart and he he had that surgery and I just talked to him before the podcast maybe 10 minutes ago.
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Jack
No, and he’s out of surgery and he’s doing really, really well. And so it was one of those, like, just terrifying moments where.
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Jack
You know, you you.
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Jack
You do that kind of like thinking in your head like is.
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Jack
Is that the last time I’m gonna?
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Jack
Talk to my dad, you know, like, is this is this it like and and and you know, before he went into surgery.
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Jack
And so for those 24 hours while he was, you know, in surgery and and coming out of the surgery.
00:04:23
Jack
It was, you know, I was trying to distract myself by listening to podcasts or, you know, talking with my wife and stuff like that. But luckily, everything went really, really well. And so it looks like he’s going to make a full recovery.
00:04:43
Jack
And you know, and for any of our our listeners out there or anyone and I know that you recently experienced a loss in your family. I’ve experienced a a pretty significant loss a couple of years ago and it’s it’s just really scary and painful.
00:05:04
Jack
UM, all the uh. Here’s another expression.
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In this episode of The Jack & “Chill Podcast, the two hosts discuss the difficulty of growing an audience for a podcast, a vlog, or a You Tube channel.
Transcript:
00:00:00
Xochitl
You are listening to the Jack and Chill podcast.
00:00:14
Jack
All right. So so. So tell me about your, uh, your travel page, your social media.
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Jack
Travel page.
00:00:21
Xochitl
Like the struggle is so real with trying to grow social media and you know you and I have experienced this before because we’re trying to grow A-Z English podcast. And the complication is really cut to grow, especially for like niches like.
00:00:37
Xochitl
Like language, learning, podcasts, or travel pages or whatever, because there’s a lot of quality content and bizarre content and like attention grabbing content that’s competing with your content and everyone’s attention span has become so short. Because I’m guilty of this too. Like, I’ll see a real or like a video or a post.
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Xochitl
On my Instagram and I’ll like it, but I won’t finish watching it. I’ll just, like, give it a like or save it.
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Xochitl
For later, which I never go back to and.
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Xochitl
And just keep.
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Xochitl
Like I won’t sit there and watch.
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Xochitl
A 5 second video.
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Xochitl
For three seconds and and that’s how they measure it. To promote your videos. How many people? How many? 3 second views did you get? At least in Instagram and Facebook?
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Xochitl
That’s how they promote your content is based on the amount of three second views you’re getting, because if you’re able to capture some of the attention for three seconds, that means that your real is classified as interesting enough to keep showing it to more people. That’s the metric. Now is 3 seconds of your time.
00:01:40
Jack
Goodness, that’s good.
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Jack
Grief. I know exactly you’re talking about. It’s like.
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Jack
It it almost takes like you almost have to be delusional, like crazy to to even think that that you can be successful in this space. You know what I mean? It’s it. It takes. Yeah. It takes like a level of like self delusion where you just kind of trick yourself into thinking you’re going to be successful.
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Jack
Because it’s so saturated with like.
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Jack
Like you said, quality.
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Jack
Content and bad quality content you know like.
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Jack
It’s it’s a.
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Jack
Mix of everything and when you jump in there, you’re just like your one tiny little star in the Galaxy. Like there’s no there’s, you know, and then you just from there, you have to just start building.
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Jack
Some sort of fan base, you know, and the only way to do that is by participating in social media, because if you go into these groups and you just spam.
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Jack
Them you’ll be. That’s worse than not promoting your podcast at all, you know, like, yeah, I’ll get banned right from the group right away. And everyone will look at me like, oh, that person is just a they’re just a spammer, you know? So what you have to do is you have to get involved in these groups and you have to become like a member.
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Xochitl
Wait, you’re good, ban.
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Jack
And that it takes a lot of time right? To like answer, reply to emails, reply to social media posts and Facebook posts and stuff like that. And then after you do that for.
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Jack
Like a month. If somebody asks you like, hey, by the way, do you know a good podcast to to learn English? And then you could say ohh yeah, I know a good podcast. It’s called the A-Z English podcast and you could then finally drop it, but you have to.
00:03:33
Jack
Do it in that.
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Jack
Very subtle kind of way, but all that work and all those hours of like.
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Jack
Time I spent, you know, chatting with with people in the groups just to become a member and accept it into the group so that I could, you know, and it’s it’s really like that’s the

In this episode of Jack & 'Chill, the two answer some Christmas related "this one" or "that one" questions. Then they talk about some annoying holiday traditions. After that, they discuss The Grinch. Finally, they share what makes their hearts grow three sizes.
Transcript:
00:00:00
Xochitl
You are listening to the Jack and Chill podcast alright, Jack. For this episode of Jack and Chill I have a fun game of this or that which for viewers.
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Xochitl
Means that I will ask Jack whether he would prefer one option or a second option and he will tell me which one he prefers and then I will also answer.
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Xochitl
So Jack, do you prefer fruit cake, which is a holiday dessert that is kind of unpopular in the US? It's basically a kind of like a loaf of cake with candied fruits incorporated into it. Or ambrosia salad, which is a creamy.
00:00:50
Xochitl
Sweet salad with several different types of fruit and fruit flavored marshmallows in it.
00:00:59
Jack
Yeah. You know, when I was a kid, I would have said ambrosia salad. I would prefer that because it's kind of the texture is kind of like it's kind of like jello jello or, you know, kind of a Jelly.
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Xochitl
Yeah, like a sweet whipped.
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Jack
Yes, sweet whipped, very light. It's it's you.
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Jack
You know the expression.
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Jack
There's always room for Jello, you know? So at the end of of a big meal, you could still eat a little bit of ambrosia salad and it's not going to fill you up too much. And it's sweet, but now I've I think it's disgusting. It's way too sweet. It's just.
00:01:40
Jack
I would rather have a a slice of fruitcake.
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Jack
To be honest.
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Jack
I don't mind fruitcake that much. I mean, I know that it's it's not my favorite dessert, but it's got some nuts in it. It's got some.
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Jack
A little bit of candied fruit and a little bit of cake, so you know it's not. It's not too much, it's it doesn't overload the senses like ambrosia salad does.
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Jack
I don't know. What do you think?
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Xochitl
Uhm, I never liked ambrosia salad, even as a kid I had kind of weird taste buds, like I prefer dark chocolate over milk chocolate. Even from being a little child and.
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Xochitl
I I would drink.
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Jack
Yeah, that's sophisticated.
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Xochitl
Black Coffee, also as a child, is the Mexico kids drink coffee. I had. I did add some sugar into it, but I wouldn't put any milk and I didn't like it. Very sweet because I like the like kind of bitter flavor profile.
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Xochitl
So I always had weird taste buds and.
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Xochitl
I hated hamburger salad. It was just horrible and I would say I would pick fruit cake even though as a kid I also didn't like the texture of like the candied fruits, raisins and like nuts in it.
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Xochitl
I would pick. I would pick those out, but now as an adult, I think I could just eat the whole thing. I think with like a coffee.
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Xochitl
Be or like a.
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Xochitl
One chip which we make in Mexico, which is like the hot.
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Xochitl
Fruit punch. Drink, I think.
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Xochitl
That it would be tolerable.
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Jack
Yeah, I would.
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Jack
I would be right now I would be very satisfied with a slice of fruit cake and a a latte.
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Jack
Like that would be. That would be nice like with my neck but a.
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Xochitl
I'll be hitting on Jack.
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Jack
Like a bowl.
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Jack
Of a bowl of marshmallows with you know, Jello and whip and whipped cream does not.
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Xochitl
With green.
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Jack
It doesn't sound good to me. It's just a. Yeah, it's nasty.
00:03:35
Xochitl
Right now, yeah, I can't imagine it would be, like, hard to get a spoon down and then with the food cake, it's like, yeah, I could do it. You know, I I wouldn't mind, actually. Yeah.
00:03:44
Xochitl
I got you. All right, Jack, for next one. Do you prefer eggnog or hot chocolate?
00:03:50
Jack
Yeah, I know we're going to have a a bitter argument about this one

In this episode of The Jack & 'Chill Podcast, Xochitl and Jack discuss American Thanksgiving traditions.
Transcript:
00:00:00
Xochitl
You are listening to the Jack and Chill podcast.
00:00:13
Xochitl
Alright, Jack, today we are going to be talking about Thanksgiving, which our listeners may or may not know is a family holiday celebrated here in the US.
00:00:23
Xochitl
It traditionally was supposed to commemorate.
00:00:27
Xochitl
Sharing between the pilgrims and Native Americans, of course, we know that.
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Xochitl
That's not historically accurate at all.
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Jack
Right. Or it's a very oversimplified description of the situation, yeah.
00:00:41
Xochitl
The situation but.
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Xochitl
Today, it's kind of divorced from its original meaning mostly, and it's kind of just a family holiday where you eat food together. So.
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Jack
Right.
00:00:56
Xochitl
Yeah, I want to ask you, our viewers may or may not know there's some typical things you usually eat during Thanksgiving. I would say Turkey, stuffing, cranberry sauce, mashed potatoes, gravy.
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Jack
Mashed mashed. Yeah.
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Xochitl
I think those are the ones that like you basically can't skip.
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Jack
Right.
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Xochitl
And and then each family has. Sorry, go ahead.
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발표자 3
It's just.
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Jack
No, I was going to say that's exactly right. If there's no stuffing that it doesn't really. It's like that's one really important component of, like, Turkey Mashed potato, stuffing and cranberry sauce like you.
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Jack
Have to have.
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Xochitl
Like cranberry sauce gravy gotta have that.
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Xochitl
And then most people have something green, like a green beans or a salad or some kind of green side. But I would feel those are like the.
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Xochitl
Staples. And then each family has things that pretty much just their family makes. Oh, sweet potato casserole or sweet potatoes. And some preparation is another big popular food. Yeah.
00:01:49
Jack
Right.
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Xochitl
I would say for the ones that my family makes, it's Kush which is like a cornbread dish with hard boiled eggs and green onion.
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Xochitl
And then oysters, which is like oysters, literally strained canned oysters in a casserole dish with like, a bread crumb topping.
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Xochitl
It's really good, you know both.
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발표자 3
OK.
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Xochitl
Of them sound weird, but they're both really delicious.
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Jack
Yeah, yeah. I mean we, our, our weird one was lesa because we're the Scandinavian, right? My, my fan no left side is like a a potato pancake with just it just literally has butter on it and then sugar and then you roll it, roll it up. Yeah. I mean it's it's.
00:02:40
Xochitl
That sounds good.
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Jack
It's full on, like causes diabetes, you.
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Jack
Know what I?
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Jack
Mean like you could trace it right back to to that. But but it's so good. It tastes so good.
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발표자
Right.
00:02:55
Xochitl
Right. So my oh, and my thing is ever since I started making the Thanksgiving spread pretty much on my own, I started doing this since I was about 24 every year, I pretty much make the whole spread on my own. This year, my mom made the oysters, which were probably the best thing, actually.
00:03:16
Xochitl
Besides that, I've pretty much made everything else myself.
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Xochitl
And ever since I started making this spread myself, I only make fried chicken instead of Turkey.
00:03:26
Jack
OK, wow. Alright. A substitution. A different bird. Yeah.
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발표자
Yes. Yeah.
00:03:32
Xochitl
Yeah, I just Turkey is like a lot for a kind of smaller family gathering. I don't like the flavor as much. And then for like, one person cooking most of the main dishes, it's really hard for, like, one person to prepare the Turkey on their own pretty much.
00:03:48
Jack
And everyone likes fried chicken.
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Xochitl
Is this something?
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Jack
I mean you can.
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Xochitl
Ohh yeah.
00:03:53
Xochitl
Come

In this episode of The Jack & 'Chill Podcast, Xochitl and Jack discuss the Mexican holiday The Day of the Dead. Then, they talk about close friends and family members who have passed away. Finally, they discuss Christmas and how magical it feels when we're young and how we cannot hold on to that magic as we get older.
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