The Mormon Renegade Podcast Dave Kirkenbower

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Sometimes I think because we are a couple hundred years away from him we assume that Joseph Smith received revelation in a vacuum. Meaning that Joseph would just get revelation on a subject without ever having thought about the subject beforehand. Now I certainly am not saying that those types of revelation never happened, but I think history shows that many times revelation came as Joseph would ponder upon a subject then ask the Lord and then the revelation would come. Today I have Cheryl Bruno on the podcast as discuss Joseph Smith and Masonry. Now many of us in Mormonism get a little bit beat up over Joseph being a Mason by our evangelical brothers and sisters. Well today Cheryl puts some of this to rest as we discuss what masonry’s role was in 19th century America, what Joseph’s interactions were with Masonry, what it was he saw in masonry, and what it means for us as Mormons today. Now as unsettling as subject seems to be on the surface, I am sure by the end you will come out on the other side even more convinced of Joseph Smith’s prophetic calling.   


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In the Gospel of Matthew chapter 24 verses 23 & 24 the Savior himself warns us in the last days that there would be many that would come along to try and deceive the followers of Christ. Well, I am not breaking any news here, but those days are here. Be that Phil Davis who started the doctrine of Christ movement, Denver Snuffer, or any other of the various leaders of some of these movements that have sprung up they all seem to have one thing in common and that is they all seem to claim an experience with the Savior without following the patterns & ordinances the Lord established through the Prophet Joseph Smith to have those experiences. Today on the podcast Taylor Smith joins me to talk about an essay that is in the works that tackles this very subject. Taylor breaks down the scriptures and teachings from Joseph Smith & other early Mormon leaders that clearly talks about the criteria needed to have experiences with the Second Comforter and shows that without certain ordinances those visitations are not possible. Now along the way we find that we touch on everything from the Adam-God Doctrine to Freemasonry. So buckle up for an epic conversation that just may spare you or your loved ones the pain of being deceived


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If your Mormon, and when I say that I mean anyone who is LDS, Fundamentalist, or any of the other various branches there are certain doctrines within the Restored Gospel that make Mormonism what it is. Now many if not all of those unique Mormon doctrines can be traced right back to the Prophet Joseph Smith. Now one sermon Preached by Joseph Smith specifically has shaped Mormon beliefs and thoughts perhaps more than any other. In the spring of 1844 Joseph Smith delivered the King Follett discourse and forever changed the trajectory of Mormonism. Today on the podcast I have Ben Shaffer back on the podcast and we have a discussion about what was taught in the discourse, what it means for us today and the impact it has had on Mormon doctrine and thought at large, that’s next on this episode of the MRP


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Archeology is the study of human history and prehistory. A couple of principles within archeology that should interest us as Mormons are migrations (the study of historical human migrations) and diffusion (the study of how human ideas and practices are transmitted from one distinct group of people to another). If the Book of Mormon is true, we should expect to see at least echo’s of migration and diffusion in the Americas. Now what if I told you that there seems to be some evidence of migration and diffusion between ancient America and Carthage (modern-day Tunisia)? Interested yet? Well, what if I also told you that that same evidence might also have a connection to the story of Mulek in the Book of Mormon? I bet if your anything like me you’re interested now. There are a group of people from very different walks of life who have come together to study this evidence. They are John Lefgren, Mike & Betty LaFontaine, Blaise Colasante, & all the way from Tunisia Eryj Ben Sassi and they all join me on the podcast today to discuss their findings that if correct could not only change the historical narrative of the United States but also could lend evidence for the historicity of the Book of Mormon. 


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One of the things that often rocks the testimony of Mormons is when the historicity of the Book of Mormon is questioned, and it appears that there are some conflicts between science and the Book of Mormon. The truth is however that usually what is thrown into question isn’t the historicity of the Book of Mormon itself but rather narratives that we as individuals read into the text. This is never more on display than when the issue of DNA raised as a critique to the Book of Mormon. I mean if the Book of Mormon is true and details the account of a Middle Eastern family’s settlement of a portion of the New World, we should expect that DNA from Middle Eastern people and some native American populations should match right? Well maybe not as much as you would think. Ken Peterson joins me again on the podcast to break all of this down. By the end I think you might find out like I did that many of the so-called conflicts between the Book of Mormon and DNA research are more conflicts between the narratives we read into the Book of Mormon and the DNA research then with the text itself. 


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