The NatureLed™ Podcast Kathleen Lockyer, Occupational Therapist and Nature-reconnection specialist

In this episode, I talk with Marianna Brussoni, developmental psychologist and risk researcher. You can learn more about Dr. Brussoni's work and extensive research at the Brussoni Lab.

We discuss the difference between risk and hazard, why risky play is essential for healthy development, how it builds resilience, and some ways parents can get more comfortable letting their kids take healthy risks. 


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In this episode, Scary or Funny, Caitlin Williams and Kathleen Lockyer talk about the type of risky-free-play called Scary-Funny. 

Caitlin is a wildlife tracker, bird language expert, forest therapy guide, forest therapy trainer, and mentor to many children. 

Some topics we discuss are: What is happening in our nervous system during scary-funny play?

How scary-funny helps us stay young.

Resilience through play.

How life events become traumatic and how scary-funny play can help us build resilience.

The hazards of scary-funny play.

How to introduce this kind of play to increase resilience and not traumatize.

What is the "window of tolerance?"

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This conversation with Dan Gardoqui of Lead With Nature covers a lot of ground! We discuss our mutual connection to Newfoundland, Canada, our mutual love for birds and children, and we dive into his exceptional Mockingbird-like-skill of sound imitation. 

Find Dan at www.leadwithnature.com and watch the beautiful documentary "The Birder" that shows Dan's love, connection, and gift!

Thanks for listening!

Find Kathleen at RxOutside and more about the NatureLed offerings.


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In this mini-podcast, I do a little unpacking of a story about a young boy who had been taken out of school for behavioral challenges. 

Two additional pieces of information I didn't mention:


Yes, he did return to school, and yes his reading, writing, and behavior all improved after his time with the outdoor program.
When introduced skillfully, children become very engaged with the activity of animal tracking because it is a "million-year-old technology" that has been practiced by all of our ancestors. 

Listening time: 8 minutes


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This first episode of Nothing Tame is exactly that! A five-minute, off-the-cuff, not edited reflection of the darkest day of the year. 

And of course, there is a necessary correction, which I did not edit out for authenticity's sake! 

Correction: When I say, "The summer solstice is the longest day of the year and the sun is highest in the sky on that day in the northern hemisphere" (which is correct) I meant to say:

"The Winter Solstice is the shortest day of the year in the northern hemisphere and the sun is at the lowest point in the sky" because I go on to say, "and our shadow is the longest." Which when following this statement, is correct. 

Thank you for your willingness to listen to a joyfully flawed human experience. 




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If we are lucky enough to inhabit a body, living and dying are pretty much the only guarantees in this life. Halloween or "All Hallows Eve," Day of the Dead, All Saints' Day, and Samhain are just a few of the traditions around the world that have seasonal celebrations to honor loved ones who have passed. 

A relationship with nature helps us understand life, death, and everything in between. 

This episode shares a story by Gabriel Garcia Marquez. The story, The Handsomest Drowned Man in the World, is a tale that touches us at the core of what many are afraid of when they think about dying. 

To read more, go to our blog at https://www.kathleenlockyer.com/blog/whowashandsomestdrownedman

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