The Social-Engineer Podcast is about humans. Understanding how we interact, communicate and relay information can help us protect, mitigate and understand social engineering attacks
Ep. 176 - Security Awareness Series - Bottom Up Context is better than Top Down Control with Nishant Bhakaria
This month, Chris Hadnagy and Ryan MacDougall are joined by Nishant Bhajaria. Nishant is an executive leader and industry-expert in the privacy and security space and currently serves as the Director of Privacy Engineering and Governance at Uber.
He plays the critical role connecting engineering, legal, and leadership to ensure data protection for both the user and the business. Prior to Uber, Nishant spearheaded compliance and privacy engineering programs at Google, Netflix and Nike. He has a Master’s Degree in computer science from Arizona State University
In addition to speaking extensively in this space, Nishant also teaches courses around privacy, security and career development on LinkedIn Learning. Nishant authored Data Privacy: A Runbook for Engineers - a deep dive into strategies on effectively identifying, communicating and addressing privacy risks using technical strategies. [Aug 15, 2022]
00:00 – Intro
00:20 – Intro Links
Social-Engineer.com Managed Voice Phishing Managed Email Phishing Adversarial Simulations Social-Engineer channel on SLACK CLUTCH innocentlivesfoundation.org 02:17 – Nishant Bhajaria Intro
03:33 – How did your career path start?
05:44 – Balancing security and the end-user experience
09:29 – How to introduce security and privacy concepts into a pre-existing infrastructure
13:50 – Balancing technological freedom with security for your family
19:28 – Bridging divisions for the sake of privacy and security
22:09 – Creating better industry standards
26:28 – How to handle your platform becoming weaponized
30:53 – The ethical issue of data use
35:11 – The role of Social Engineering in privacy and security
39:14 – 3 action steps that companies should start doing right now
42:56 – Find Nishant online
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nishantjb/ Certification: https://dataprotocol.com/pe-certification 44:24 – Book Recommendations
Nonzero: The Logic of Human Destiny – Robert Wright Team of Rivals– Doris Kearns Goodwin Data Privacy: A Runbook for Engineers – Nishant Bhajaria 47:13 – Wrap Up
47:41 – Outro
Ep. 175 - Human Element Series - Culture and The 5 H's with Hala Taha
Today Chris is talking with Hala Taha. Hala, who has been dubbed the “The Podcast Princess,” is the host of Young and Profiting (YAP) Podcast, which is frequently ranked as a #1 Education podcast across all apps. Hala is also the founder and CEO of YAP Media, a social media and podcast marketing agency for top podcasters, celebrities and CEOs. She is well-known for her engaged following and influence on LinkedIn, and she landed the January 2021 cover of Podcast Magazine.
Hala is an expert on networking, personal branding, leadership, social media, side hustles, entrepreneurship and podcasting. [Aug 8th, 2022]
00:00 – Intro
Social-Engineer.com Managed Voice Phishing Managed Email Phishing Adversarial Simulations Social-Engineer channel on SLACK
02:05 – Hala Taha Intro
03:14 – How did you end up running a media company?
05:43 – The journey towards starting YAP Media
07:01 – The early days of podcasting
09:22 – Resources for podcasting (2018 vs 2022)
10:38 – How did you transform a podcast into a media company?
16:20 – Taking Risks vs Being Smart
18:29 – The importance of pure intentions
20:44 – The secrets to finding like-minded team members
21:56 – What have been your biggest struggles while growing your company?
22:52 – Quality time with a remote team
24:51 – Maintaining the work-culture across time zones
26:35 – Tips for starting out
30:25 – Building the right foundation
32:27 – Find Hala online
Podcast link: https://linktr.ee/YAPwithHala Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/yapwithhala Twitter: https://twitter.com/YAP_Podcast
33:15 – Who have been your mentors?
Father Heather Monahan Jordan Harbinger
35:21 – Book Recommendations:
The Like Switch – Jack Schafer
36:17 – Guest Wrap Up
36:28 – Outro
Ep. 174 - Security Awareness Series - Killing Baby Dragons with Shane McCombs
This month, Chris Hadnagy and Ryan MacDougall are joined by the Chief Operating Officer of the ILF, Shane McCombs.
Shane leads the ILF with more than 25 years of experience in the tech industry, including more than a decade of experience in C-level roles. He led enterprise-wide initiatives within project management, customer relationship management and acquisition, policies and procedures, process improvement, and infrastructure. Shane is also an accomplished public speaker and trainer focused on change management, professionalism, social engineering, and corporate security. In the past, he volunteered for the Autism Hope Alliance and currently donates his time to businesses and non-profits as a trusted advisor. [July 18, 2022]
00:00 – Intro
01:02 – Intro Links
Managed Voice Phishing Managed Email Phishing Adversarial Simulations Social-Engineer channel on SLACK CLUTCH
innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/
04:41 – Shane McCombs Intro
06:14 – What got you started off in InfoSec?
08:36 – What led you to want to do more in the industry?
10:40 – “Throwing your hat in the ring”
17:31 – Cybersecurity for kids and parents
19:52 – How to "minor" in a "major" topic
22:29 – Age appropriate conversations
25:12 – Additional concerns in the summer months
28:38 – The TRUST Framework
31:40 – The importance of communication
33:59 – When and how to introduce electronic monitoring
40:16 – The "stats" of ILF
43:50 – Who is your biggest mentor?
- his wife
45:32 – Book Recommendations
Going Pro - Tony Kern The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People – Stephen Covey Neuromancer - William Gibson
48:44 – Wrap Up
49:29 – Outro
Ep. 173 - Human Element Series - Empathetic Chameleons and Painful Lobsters with Laurie Segall
Today Chris is talking with Laurie Segall. Laurie is the founder of Dot Dot Dot, a media company focused on onboarding the mainstream into a new era of the internet, Web3. Laurie is an award-winning journalist who has interviewed the world’s most influential tech leaders including Mark Zuckerberg and Tim Cook. Prior, she was CNN’s senior tech correspondent, covering technology and culture for a decade and a former reporter for 60 Minutes. [July 11, 2022]
00:00 – Intro
Social-Engineer.com Managed Voice Phishing Managed Email Phishing
Adversarial Simulations Social-Engineer channel on SLACK CLUTCH innocentlivesfoundation.org
03:23 – Laurie Segall intro
04:20 – Starting your career in the "wee hours"
07:54 – Was journalism always the goal?
12:31 – Navigating chaos
15:57 – Taking on Revenge Porn
21:20 – What motivated you to write about your life so early?
24:46 – Writing during the pandemic
29:50 – How lobsters grow
35:44 – Building a company
38:40 – Wearing 2 hats
40:54 – Who would you consider your biggest mentors?
CNN Digital – Susan Grant
43:38 – Book Recommendations:
Slouching Towards Bethlehem - Joan Didion (Laurie’s book) Special Characters - Laurie Segall
45:56 – Find Laurie Segall online
Website link: https://www.d3network.io/ Instagram: @LaurieSegall & @d3_network Twitter: @LaurieSegall & @d3_network
48:32 – Guest Wrap Up & Outro
Ep. 172 - Security Awareness Series - Creating Psychological Salt with Ted Harrington
This month, Chris Hadnagy and Ryan MacDougall are joined by Ted Harrington. Ted is the author of HACKABLE: How to Do Application Security Right and the Executive Partner at Independent Security Evaluators (ISE), the company of ethical hackers famous for hacking cars, medical devices, and password managers. Ted has been named both Executive of the Year by the American Business Awards and an SD Metro 40 Under 40 entrepreneur. Ted has been featured in more than 100 media outlets, including The Wall Street Journal, Financial Times, and Forbes. [June 20, 2022]
00:00 – Intro
00:56 – Intro Links
Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/
Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/
02:32 – Ted Harrington Intro
03:21 – How did you start off in this industry?
06:15 – Explain it like I'm 12 years old
07:59 – The origins of ISE
09:32 – Is there a "perfect" Password Manager?
14:11 – How to communicate at the executive level
16:54 – The right and wrong ways of investing in security
25:17 – Responsible Disclosure
29:04 – The challenges of the Medical Device field
32:39 – The problem with legislation driving security
34:20 – The manufacturers’ role in safety and security
36:00 – Who is the book "Hackable" for?
38:05 – Find Ted online
Twitter: https://twitter.com/securityted LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/securityted
38:37 – Book Recommendations
Retail Pride - Ron Thurston Art of Resilience – Hussein Al-Baiaty
41:04 – Who is your biggest mentor?
Business Partner – Steve Bono
45:35 – Wrap Up
46:17 – Outro
Ep. 171 - Human Element Series - Yes and... with Clay Drinko
Today Chris is talking with Clay Drinko, Ph.D. Clay is an author and educator. He writes for Psychology Today about the intersection between improv comedy, science, and everyday life. He's also the author of the first academic book connecting improv and cognitive science, Theatrical Improvisation, Consciousness, and Cognition. His most recent book, Play Your Way Sane, was published by Simon & Schuster last year and applies his improv research to everyday life. [June 14, 2022]
00:00 – Intro
Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/ 02:27 – Clay Drinko intro
03:27 – How does someone in Improv decide to study Cognitive Science?
05:46 – Losing anxiousness through performance
07:34 – The importance of a shift in focus
08:52 – Active Listening
11:41 – Yes, and...
14:01 – Don't try to be funny
15:54 – Establishing "who" and "where" you are
18:57 – How do you apply Cognitive Science to the idea of improv?
21:56 – Leaving your "baggage" at the door
25:13 – Managing the negative
26:40 – What are the biggest life skills you've learned from improv?
28:13 – Reflective questioning - Empathy or Selfishness?
31:03 – You are not special
34:29 – Do you want my help?
37:37 – Find Clay Drinko online
Website link: www.playyourwaysane.com Instagram: www.instagram.com/playyourwaysane 38:13 – Book Recommendations:
Americanah - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Educated - Tara Westover Unmasking the Social Engineer - Christopher J. Hadnagy Nightbitch - Rachel Yoder Clay’s Book – Play Your Way Sane - Clay Drinko 40:34 – Who would you consider your biggest mentors?
Advisor and Professor – Shirley Huston-Findley 43:14 – Guest Wrap Up
44:04 – Outro
Bringing the Human to Technology
The Social Engineer Podcast (and movement) brings it back to the human element. This is critical as we see more and more the rise of AI/ML and more tech that takes humans out of the equation.
Humans are and will always be there, and we need to acknowledge that!
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This podcast truly is amazing, the people who are interviewed are truly unique and amazing. I disagree on the mask though mentioned in a March 2022 episode, most mask and vaccine mandates have been dropped at this point in the overwhelming majority of the United States, this is not the “new norm” nor is it the future.
This podcast is a must in my monthly routine every month a interesting and valuable topic is chosen with industry leaders as guest. Each episode is a mini seminar!