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This is real leadership.


We love business but not buzzwords. We think the best companies are more human. And we want to improve leadership everywhere.


So our podcast is different. Because it's not about toolkits or influencers. It’s about real people and real talk. It’s about practical insight from world-class thinkers with proven knowledge and experience. 


Every episode, a business leader shares human stories and hard truths from their career. And an expert turns those stories into lessons we can all learn.


Bright ideas and sound strategies that really work. Delivered by the people who learned them. Explained by the world-class professors at IESE, one of the world’s best business schools. This is real leadership.


In each episode...


From entrepreneurs to organisational theorists, old hands to cool heads, our guests have proven experience and a story to tell.  


They’ll be telling it to Adam Burns, who’s been writing and talking about business for over 25 years, and a distinguished professor from IESE, one of the world’s best business schools – ranked number 1 in the world for six years running by the Financial Times.


Then the professors offer their expert analysis of the conversation, uncovering and explaining real leadership lessons in plain language.


No buzzwords. This is real leadership.


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This is real leadership is a SIM7 podcast for IESE Business School. It is hosted by Adam Burns and produced by John England. Voiceover provided by Eliza Perry.


 

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This is real leadership.


We love business but not buzzwords. We think the best companies are more human. And we want to improve leadership everywhere.


So our podcast is different. Because it's not about toolkits or influencers. It’s about real people and real talk. It’s about practical insight from world-class thinkers with proven knowledge and experience. 


Every episode, a business leader shares human stories and hard truths from their career. And an expert turns those stories into lessons we can all learn.


Bright ideas and sound strategies that really work. Delivered by the people who learned them. Explained by the world-class professors at IESE, one of the world’s best business schools. This is real leadership.


In each episode...


From entrepreneurs to organisational theorists, old hands to cool heads, our guests have proven experience and a story to tell.  


They’ll be telling it to Adam Burns, who’s been writing and talking about business for over 25 years, and a distinguished professor from IESE, one of the world’s best business schools – ranked number 1 in the world for six years running by the Financial Times.


Then the professors offer their expert analysis of the conversation, uncovering and explaining real leadership lessons in plain language.


No buzzwords. This is real leadership.


 —


Click for more Real Leadership content


This is real leadership is a SIM7 podcast for IESE Business School. It is hosted by Adam Burns and produced by John England. Voiceover provided by Eliza Perry.


 

    How to fail right. With Professors Sandra Sieber and Sebastian Reiche

    How to fail right. With Professors Sandra Sieber and Sebastian Reiche

    In this special episode, we look back at some of the most human stories and the hardest truths from series one of This is Real Leadership.


    From how you ask a co-founder to leave, to one reason Steve Jobs was so successful, we’ve been finding out what real leadership looks like today. And it’s all here – the wow-yeah and the heck-no.


    Looking back across our previous seven episodes are two distinguished commentators. Sandra Sieber is Professor of Entrepreneurship at IESE Business School, one of the world’s best business schools. Sebastian Reiche is Professor of Managing People in Organisations at IESE Business School. IESE was ranked No.1 in the world for six years running by the Financial Times.


    In this episode, Sandra and Sebastian discuss:


    How to fail right. (01:48)Is leadership as easy as pie? Or Pi? (05:25)How to tell better stories and build stronger business cultures (13:58)What really is real leadership today? (27:10)

    Featuring quotes from:


    Ibukun Awosika – Former Chair, First Bank of Nigeria. NED, Cadbury Plc. One of the original dragons on the African version of Dragon’s Den, author, fellow of the African Leadership Initiative and Aspen Global Leadership Network, and Forbes “Chairperson of the Year” award winner 2020.


    Geoffrey Moore – Advisor to the leaders of established high-tech enterprises. Most recently: Salesforce, Microsoft, and Google. And the author of several best-selling and hugely influential business books. Most notably: Crossing The Chasm.


    Elena Betés Novoa – Founder and CEO (2008-15) and Chair (2015-22), Rastreator. CEO, dide.org. Serial entrepreneur. Winner of the International Women’s Entrepreneurial Challenge award in 2022. Forbes “Top 100 Most Creative”. 


    JJ Van Oosten – A serial digital transformationist, JJ has lead five large, complex and successful digital and omnichannel transformations at Rewe Group, Tesco, Travis Perkins, LEGO and Kingfisher. 


    Christina Janzer – Head of Research and Analytics, Slack. Armed with insights from Slack’s global knowledge worker research – a survey of 10,000 desk workers – Christina says she wants to make work a little better every day.


    Arjen Schouten – Co-founder and Former COO cosmetics retailer Rituals, Arjen helped Rituals grow from zero to over 10,000 employees, 1000 stores and $1 billion in turnover.


    Florian Weiss – Former CEO, Jameda, one of the largest providers of software for the healthcare industry.


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    • 29 min
    How to make change happen. With JJ Van Oosten

    How to make change happen. With JJ Van Oosten

    Mckinsey says 70% of digital transformations fail, most often due to resistance from employees. And only 16% of employees believe their company’s digital reforms are long-term sustainable. 


    How do we do it better? How do we more quickly win people to our cause? And how do we create change that’s sustainable?


    Well, if anyone should know… Jean-Jacques (JJ) Van Oosten has been called the alchemist. He describes himself as a serial digital transformationist. And he’s lead five large, complex and successful digital and omnichannel transformations at Rewe Group, Tesco, Travis Perkins, LEGO and Kingfisher. 


    Professor Iñigo Gallo is Associate Professor of Marketing at IESE Business School, one of the world’s best business schools – ranked No.1 in the world for six years running by the Financial Times.


    In this episode, Iñigo and JJ discuss:


    The communication skills you need to drive change (06:51)Common factors in all successful business transformations (04:06)Why do people resist change? (08:40)How can you help people resisting change? (13:40)

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    • 22 min
    Trust and productivity in a happy workplace. With Christina Janzer.

    Trust and productivity in a happy workplace. With Christina Janzer.

    For 70% of executives, the number one stress is how to raise productivity. Christina Janzer knows exactly what will work – and exactly what won’t (and it’s something we guarantee a whole lot of you are doing). 


    Christina is Head of Research and Analytics for productivity platform Slack. Armed with insights from Slack’s global knowledge worker research – a survey of 10,000 desk workers – she says she wants to make work a little better every day.


    Professor Marta Elvira is Professor of Strategic Management and Managing People in Organisations at IESE Business School, one of the world’s best business schools – ranked No.1 in the world for six years running by the Financial Times.


    In this episode, Christina and Marta discuss:


    What metrics do you need to know to change now (04:30)How to build a culture of trust (05:30)How to break down siloes between departments and teams (21:59)How to stay ahead in a rapidly changing world (22:54)

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    • 28 min
    Leading with joy (not fear). Productive magic with Florian Weiss

    Leading with joy (not fear). Productive magic with Florian Weiss

    In 1890, Kate Sanborn described the entrepreneur’s journey as “1% inspiration, 99% perspiration”. Surely things are different today…


    During this episode of the This is Real Leadership podcast series, Dr. Florian Weiss, CEO of Jameda (one of the largest software providers for healthcare) and Professor Sandra Sieber, Professor of Entrepreneurship at IESE Business School (one of the world’s best business schools) – ranked No.1 in the world for six years running by the Financial Times – discuss lessons learned in leadership.


    Is building an organization that fosters personal growth the most important aspect of entrepreneurial leadership, and how do optimists survive?


    In this episode, Florian and Sandra discuss:


    *  How to leave space for productive magic (13:33)


    *  How to navigate paranoid optimism (06:22)


    *  How to learn from failure (15:16)


    *  Key leadership paradoxes (20:21)


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    • 29 min
    How to bring your authentic self to work. With Ibukun Awosika.

    How to bring your authentic self to work. With Ibukun Awosika.

    We all talk about bringing our whole selves to work and workplaces that allow you to be authentically you. But should you? Really? And do they? Really? 


    Let’s ask a leader who could never be less than her whole self. And an expert on people management…


    Ibukun Awosika is an entrepreneur, leader, speaker and challenger. Former chair of the First Bank of Nigeria. One of the original dragons on the African version of Dragon’s Den. Author of several books, including The Girl Entrepreneur. And Forbes Chairperson of the Year award winner in 2020. 


    Professor Marta Elvira is Professor of Strategic Management and Managing People in Organisations at IESE Business School, one of the world’s best business schools – ranked No.1 in the world for six years running by the Financial Times.


    In this episode, Ibukun and Marta discuss:


    Can we expect business to be better than society? (03:17)How to be more you (07:27)Authentic and aligned: when bringing your whole self to work really works (10:34)What is authentic leadership? (14:06)

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    • 29 min
    Culture clashes and difficult decisions. With Arjen Schouten.

    Culture clashes and difficult decisions. With Arjen Schouten.

    Leaders make difficult decisions – double-down or step back, invest or cut. But success is not only about the decision, it’s also about the process. So… How do you make tough calls a win-win?


    In this episode of This is Real Leadership, co-founder and COO, Arjen Schouten (who helped Rituals, the home and body cosmetics retailer, grow from zero to over 10,000 employees and $1 billion in turnover) and Professor Sebastian Reiche, Professor of Managing People in Organizations at IESE Business School (one of the world’s best business schools) – ranked No.1 in the world for six years running by the Financial Times explore how to make tough decisions as a leader.


     Is letting people go the hardest thing to do in business? And is disagreement healthy?


    In this episode, Arjen and Sebastian explore:


    *  How to manage leadership clashes 03:54


    *  What is the most demanding stage of business growth? 06:50


    *  How to keep a start-up culture as the company grows 08:05


    *  How to adapt to different cultures 12:25


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