1 hr 52 min

Turil Cronburg, thinking systematically The Paleo Cyborg Podcast

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Systematic Thinker Turil Cronburg @thewiseturtle on twitter X joins the Paleo Cyborg podcast to talk about cremating a utopian society. Show notes: Speaking Up project


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Why

When

Systems

![[IMG_0151.jpeg]]

Revolution level of questions

How is this system functioning?

A book doesn’t change; authoritarian

Changeable rules

Three types of systems

1 authoritarian

2 consensus

3 chaotic

Traditional rules

Where

Internally?

Reach out to other systems and individuals

4 levels:

Individual
democracy
Meritocracy
Naturally chaotic




Democracy works well with homogeneous groups

Meritocracy adds in different other individuals—more intellectual because there are more complex problems

The system depends on the goal


Democracy is more local and specific

United states


Coties


Pilgrims

Government systems

Bottom up

Top down

Soup kitchens are donation-based

Local stores donate food

Small churches and independent schools



Main focus now is the family tree kodel


Pascal’s triangle

Bill Watterson book:
The Mysteries https://a.co/d/3BLGLku

Create Space project

Local problem-solving hub

Nation states can’t work as democracies



Reith Lectures on BBC

David Deutsch’s error-correction



Individual Syztems are authoritarian rigid and non-rule-changing



Don’t need a leader in a democracy, you want a tour guide who knows what they’re doing

LIFE : EARTH MISSION

building up

From information

You can tell your own individual story shcih is part of a universal story

Turil’s personal story changed dramatically 15 years ago

Buddhist monastery
Permaculture
Cape Cod
Boston
Off-grid for four years
Cancer

Ocean walk

Letting go

Non-attachment

Express emotions and then the emotion is gone

Flowing from state to state

Stoicism

Choice and Control

Free will definition

Concepts: laws of physics, quantum based, randomness

Galton board bell curve

Entropy

Local control

Supernatural free will: outside the body

Choice and decisions


Categorize by families: “categories”

This is Pascal’s triangle forms a bell curve

Generating macro states like a glass of water

Gestalt holistic

Speaking Up process elevates to a higher self

Local maxima

Global minima

Restaurant at the End of the Universe



Diversity and cooperation

Pareto principles 80/20 similarity divergence

Guilds

Video games
Nature-based education schools


Solve a specific kind of problem with a specific

Integrating your story on the past and flipping it into the future and elevating optimism and positive value based off of that value


Speaking Up for Little People https://a.co/d/ffjzHNH

[Dragonfly: Prosthetic Goddess of an Awkward Idealist https://a.co/d/23FvSaw](dragonfly:%20Prosthetic%20Goddess%20of%20an%20Awkward%20Idealist%20https%3A//a.co/d/23FvSaw)

The meaning of life is ____________

Branching and rejoining

Splitting and recombining

Nothing ends

Nothing ever ends…

Systematic Thinker Turil Cronburg @thewiseturtle on twitter X joins the Paleo Cyborg podcast to talk about cremating a utopian society. Show notes: Speaking Up project


Chilled chaos twitch streamers

AplatyBALD(isbeautiful)


[](https://twitter.com/ChilledChaos)

[](https://twitter.com/AplatypussTV)

Why

When

Systems

![[IMG_0151.jpeg]]

Revolution level of questions

How is this system functioning?

A book doesn’t change; authoritarian

Changeable rules

Three types of systems

1 authoritarian

2 consensus

3 chaotic

Traditional rules

Where

Internally?

Reach out to other systems and individuals

4 levels:

Individual
democracy
Meritocracy
Naturally chaotic




Democracy works well with homogeneous groups

Meritocracy adds in different other individuals—more intellectual because there are more complex problems

The system depends on the goal


Democracy is more local and specific

United states


Coties


Pilgrims

Government systems

Bottom up

Top down

Soup kitchens are donation-based

Local stores donate food

Small churches and independent schools



Main focus now is the family tree kodel


Pascal’s triangle

Bill Watterson book:
The Mysteries https://a.co/d/3BLGLku

Create Space project

Local problem-solving hub

Nation states can’t work as democracies



Reith Lectures on BBC

David Deutsch’s error-correction



Individual Syztems are authoritarian rigid and non-rule-changing



Don’t need a leader in a democracy, you want a tour guide who knows what they’re doing

LIFE : EARTH MISSION

building up

From information

You can tell your own individual story shcih is part of a universal story

Turil’s personal story changed dramatically 15 years ago

Buddhist monastery
Permaculture
Cape Cod
Boston
Off-grid for four years
Cancer

Ocean walk

Letting go

Non-attachment

Express emotions and then the emotion is gone

Flowing from state to state

Stoicism

Choice and Control

Free will definition

Concepts: laws of physics, quantum based, randomness

Galton board bell curve

Entropy

Local control

Supernatural free will: outside the body

Choice and decisions


Categorize by families: “categories”

This is Pascal’s triangle forms a bell curve

Generating macro states like a glass of water

Gestalt holistic

Speaking Up process elevates to a higher self

Local maxima

Global minima

Restaurant at the End of the Universe



Diversity and cooperation

Pareto principles 80/20 similarity divergence

Guilds

Video games
Nature-based education schools


Solve a specific kind of problem with a specific

Integrating your story on the past and flipping it into the future and elevating optimism and positive value based off of that value


Speaking Up for Little People https://a.co/d/ffjzHNH

[Dragonfly: Prosthetic Goddess of an Awkward Idealist https://a.co/d/23FvSaw](dragonfly:%20Prosthetic%20Goddess%20of%20an%20Awkward%20Idealist%20https%3A//a.co/d/23FvSaw)

The meaning of life is ____________

Branching and rejoining

Splitting and recombining

Nothing ends

Nothing ever ends…

1 hr 52 min

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