Unchained

Laura Shin
Unchained

Crypto assets and blockchain technology are about to transform every trust-based interaction of our lives, from financial services to identity to the Internet of Things. In this podcast, host Laura Shin, an independent journalist covering all things crypto, talks with industry pioneers about how crypto assets and blockchains will change the way we earn, spend and invest our money. Tune in to find out how Web 3.0, the decentralized web, will revolutionize our world. Disclosure: I'm a nocoiner.

  1. 14小时前

    Why the Founders of Aave and Sky Are Still Bullish on Ethereum DeFi

    Despite the ups and downs of the Ethereum ecosystem, two of its most influential builders—Aave’s Stani Kulechov and Sky’s Rune Christensen—remain bullish. In this episode, they discuss whether we’re witnessing a DeFi renaissance, the challenges of building on Ethereum vs. Solana, and why DeFi adoption isn’t growing as fast as some expected. They debate stablecoins, whether Solana is truly innovating, and how AI could transform DeFi by automating governance and risk management. They also respond to some hot takes—including whether Aave is falling behind Solana-based Kamino, and why Sky deployed its USDS stablecoin on Solana despite Rune’s long-standing Ethereum advocacy. Show highlights:  02:33 Whether Sky and Aave are experiencing a “DeFi renaissance” 11:49 How Stani and Rune are trying to appeal to a simpler audience 23:00 Whether developers overlook how easy it is to build DeFi on Ethereum 27:40 Why Stani believes there is not a lot of innovation in Solana 32:17 What would need to happen for Aave to be in Solana 33:27 Why Sky deployed USDS on Solana 40:30 Whether the Ethereum ecosystem should be worried about users going to other chains 49:19 Why Rune praises Solana’s culture 51:38 How USDS’s growth on Base happens organically, contrary to Solana 59:35 Why they believe that the combination of AI and DeFi will be so powerful Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Thank you to our sponsors! Mantle RockWallet Kelp DAO  Guest: Stani Kulechov, Founder and CEO of Aave Previous appearances on Unchained: Stani Kulechov on Why Aave Is So Successful - Unchained The Chopping Block w/ Stani Kulechov: Operation Chokepoint 2.0, Ethereum Innovation Push, & Polymarket Whales - Unchained Rune Christensen, Co-founder of Sky Previous appearances on Unchained: Can Maker’s Rune Christensen Fix the Sad State of DAO Governance? Rune Christensen of MakerDAO Part 1: How to Keep a Crypto-Collateralized Stablecoin Afloat Rune Christensen of MakerDAO Part 2: How Dai Stayed at $1 While ETH Crashed From $1,400 to $85  The Chopping Block: How to Manage MakerDAO, With Hasu and Rune Rune Christensen of MakerDao on Its $15 Million From Andreessen Horowitz Why It’s so Hard to Keep Stablecoins Stable Links Aave 2030 roadmap Alex Svanevik of Nansen tweeted: “When Aave on Solana?”  Qiao Wang of Alliance DAO commenting on why he recommends people build on Solana  The First Non-EVM Deployment of Aave Protocol: Aave V3 on Aptos - General - Aptos Forum Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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  2. 4天前

    Did Washington Crush Crypto’s Most Important Bank? Its Former Chairman Says Yes

    Sign up for our free regulatory newsletter! Silvergate Bank was once crypto’s most important banking partner, handling billions in deposits from the biggest players in the industry. Then, FTX collapsed—and everything changed. In this episode of Unchained, Mike Lempres, former chairman of Silvergate, talks about how Silvergate grew into a banking giant for crypto, why Washington suddenly turned against them—even after they survived the FTX crisis, and whether Operation Choke Point 2.0 was real. Plus, did short sellers and politicians work together to tank Silvergate’s stock? And what does the future look like for banks that want to serve crypto? This is part of the inside story of one of the biggest banking collapses in crypto history. Show highlights: 2:08 How Mike’s background in banking led him to work in crypto 4:10 Why banking has always been a challenge for crypto companies 5:14 How Silvergate Bank got involved so much with the industry and how it achieved “tremendous growth” 8:10 The “magic” of the Silvergate Exchange Network (SEN) 14:19 Why Mike believes Silvergate’s problem was not banking regulators, but D.C. politics 17:49 How everything changed after the FTX collapse 24:45 Whether SEN is a valuable asset for a bank to have 28:39 Why Mike believes that Operation Choke Point 2.0 is real 30:48 Whether short sellers worked with politicians to tank Silvergate 34:21 How Mike thinks that banks could service the crypto industry Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Thank you to our sponsors! RockWallet Somnia Network Quai Network Mantle Guest Mike Lempres, Former Chairman of Silvergate Bank Links Unchained:  Why the new FDIC Leadership Isn’t Convinced Operation Chokepoint 2.0 Exists Regulators Are Limiting Banks Serving Crypto Clients. Does That Violate the Law? Rep. French Hill Says He’d Investigate Operation Choke Point 2.0 as Financial Services Chair Are Regulatory Failures to Blame for Crypto Banking Issues? Caitlin Long on Why Operation Choke Point 2.0 Has Bankers Nervous Ahead of Debanking Hearings, Industry Is Divided on Political Strategy Caitlin Long on Why the Fed’s Rejections of Custodia Bank Seem Politically Motivated How Will the FTX Collapse Affect Silvergate? A Bear and a Bull Debate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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  3. 5天前

    The Chopping Block: LA Vape Cabal, Market Meltdown, & SEC’s Crypto Pivot

    Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. In this episode, we dissect the chaos triggered by Trump’s trade war, which sent Ethereum and alts into freefall while Bitcoin held strong. Why are alts struggling, and is this just a flight to quality—or something deeper? We also dive into the LA Vape Cabal phenomenon and its bizarre influence on memecoin culture, debate whether the SEC’s new leadership is truly a game-changer for crypto, and analyze Binance’s latest scandal. Plus, is the memecoin cycle really over, or is this just another phase in crypto’s endless casino? Show highlights 🔹 Trump’s Trade War Wrecks Crypto – Ethereum and alts nosedive as Trump’s surprise tariffs shake markets. Is this just macro panic or a deeper shift in investor sentiment? 🔹 Biggest Liquidation Day Ever? – Crypto saw its largest mass liquidation in history, with Bybit’s CEO estimating real losses closer to $8-10 billion—more than the FTX collapse. 🔹 LA Vape Cabal & Memecoin Mania – A bizarre Twitch-fueled trading cult is shaping the memecoin meta. Is this the future of crypto speculation, or just another fleeting grift? 🔹 The Great Altcoin Capitulation – Alts are bleeding while Bitcoin holds strong. Has the market finally given up on everything that isn't BTC? 🔹 Hester Peirce’s Crypto Reset – The SEC’s new approach could rewrite the rules for token issuers. Will the industry finally get the regulatory clarity it’s been begging for? 🔹 Binance Under Fire (Again) – CZ’s former empire faces backlash over insider listings, alleged bribes, and a wave of vaporware projects that tanked after launch. 🔹 Pump.fun = The New NFT Casino? – Memecoin speculation is bigger than 2021’s NFT boom. But is it sustainable, or is the exit liquidity running dry? 🔹 The Memecoin Endgame? – Some claim the bubble has burst, but if history tells us anything, a new wave of degens will always find a way to keep the casino open. 🔹 Bitcoin’s Macro Dominance – BTC’s macro story is unstoppable, with talk of a U.S. sovereign wealth fund investing in Bitcoin. Will the market ever rotate back to alts? Hosts ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly ⭐️Robert Leshner, CEO & Co-founder of Superstate ⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures ⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly  Disclosures Links Hester Peirce’s Blog Post – “The Journey Begins”: https://www.sec.gov/newsroom/speeches-statements/peirce-journey-begins-020425  David Sacks' Plan for Digital Assets Press Conference: https://youtu.be/LqTsyTuLSSI  Timestamps  00:00 Intro 01:08 Market Turmoil and Trade Wars 07:10 Bitcoin's Dominance & Altcoin Struggles 10:33 Memecoins & Market Sentiment 25:05 Cultural Phenomena in Crypto 33:54 The L.A. Vape Cabal 40:45 Millennials and Memecoins 44:51 Binance & the Chinese Community 50:45 Regulatory Developments in Crypto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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  4. 6天前

    Bits + Bips: How Trump’s Tariffs Are Bullish for Bitcoin Both Long- and Short-Term

    Subscribe to our newsletter! https://unchainedcrypto.beehiiv.com/subscribe Trump’s new wave of tariffs has reignited the debate: Are they good for the economy or a disaster waiting to happen? Some say tariffs will crush trade, boost inflation, and slow growth—but others argue they could weaken the dollar and send bitcoin soaring. On this episode of Bits + Bips, Jeff Park of Bitwise, along with James Seyffart, Alex Kruger and Noelle Acheson, battle it out over the real impact of Trump’s tariffs, whether they could spark a new Plaza Accord 2.0, and why ETH took a harder hit than BTC in the latest selloff. Plus, is Trump’s economic strategy really about making America great again—or just about keeping his own real estate empire afloat? Jeff makes a bold claim outlining Trump’s #1 goal—one that his personal wealth depends on. Show highlights: 2:38 - Why Jeff believes that people’s reaction to tariffs was bizarre 7:09 - Why Jeff is convinced that tariffs are good for bitcoin 10:18 - Why Alex is so against tariffs 21:37 - How tariffs actually affect consumers 27:36 - What’s Trump’s number one priority is, according to Jeff 36:26 - Whether inflation will eventually come back to previous levels 41:05 - Why ETH got hit the hardest on Sunday night 49:56 - Whether the ETH/BTC ratio has bottomed 51:03 - How Hyperliquid’s HYPE held up so strongly 53:02 - The significance of Tether adding USDT to the Lightning Network Hosts: James Seyffart, Research Analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence Noelle Acheson, Author of the “Crypto Is Macro Now” Newsletter  Alex Kruger, Founder of Asgard Guest:  Jeff Park, Head of Alpha Strategies at Bitwise Previous appearance on Bits + Bips: The Real ‘Trump Trade’ & Why Trump's World Liberty Financial Was a Flop Links AP: Canada and Mexico agree with Trump to postpone tariffs by at least 30 days Eric Trump on X: "In my opinion, it’s a great time to add $ETH." Unchained:  USDT Integrates With Bitcoin and Lightning Network ETH Crashes After Trump Imposes Tariffs  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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  5. 2月4日

    Olaf Carlson-Wee and Rushi Manche on Why Move Is Safer for Crypto

    Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pods, Fountain, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. The success of any blockchain isn’t just about scalability, security, or decentralization—it’s about attracting developers. The easier it is to build, the more innovation happens. Or at least, that’s the thesis of Movement Labs co-founder Rushi Manche and Olaf Carlson-Wee, CEO of Polychain Capital. In this episode of Unchained, Rushi explains why Move, originally developed by Meta, is a fundamentally better programming language for crypto than the Ethereum Virtual Machine (EVM). He breaks down how Move’s unique approach to security and asset management improves developer experience and why the Movement Network is bringing Move to Ethereum as a layer 2 solution. Olaf shares his thoughts on how alternative programming environments like Move could challenge the dominance of the EVM, why Ethereum is at a critical moment, and how AI-powered financial agents could change how investments work. Show highlights: 2:32 What problems Move solves for crypto and how it got started 8:57 How the programming language is safer than others, specifically for crypto finance 21:00 What’s the thesis behind the Movement network 23:12 Why Movement chose to become an Ethereum L2 30:08 Where ETH is headed and what it needs to succeed 32:25 Why Rushi is so bearish on EVM layer 2s 34:59 Whether Ethereum is going through an existential crisis 37:47 Why Rushi believes that modularity will save Ethereum 39:28 How Movement differs from Aptos and Sui 41:36 The importance of developer experience in crypto’s growth 44:48 How tokens can signal the significance of content in social media 52:04 Why Olaf thinks we’ll soon see an explosive growth of financialized agents 57:19 Whether AI will replace VC investors and other jobs 1:01:38 What Rushi has to say about the Trump team buying MOVE 1:04:09 The significance of the U.S. making crypto a national priority Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Thank you to our sponsor! Mantle Guest: Rushi Manche, Co-founder of Movement Labs Olaf Carlson-Wee, CEO of Polychain Capital Previous appearances on Unchained: OG Olaf Carlson-Wee on Why His Crypto Thesis Is Stronger Than Ever Olaf Carlson-Wee: ‘If There Is a Money-Losing Exploit, the Money Is Gone’  Why The First Employee Of Coinbase Launched A Hedge Fund To the Moon and Back With Polychain’s Olaf Carlson-Wee Special Episode with CNBC’s Crypto Trader: Olaf Carlson-Wee on Why This Crypto Winter Is Different From Previous Ones All Things Cryptoeconomics, Pt. 1, With Olaf Carlson-Wee and Ryan Zurrer of Polychain Capital Links Unchained:  Trump’s Crypto Project Bought MOVE Tokens as DOGE News Leaked How Solana Beat Out Ethereum to Nab New Crypto Developers in 2024 Chris Dixon on Why We Will Finally See New App Innovation in Crypto 2025 Will Be a Year of Crypto Competition. Can Ethereum Make a Comeback? With AI Agents Now Trading Crypto, What Does Their Future Look Like? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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  6. 1月31日

    The Chopping Block: Ethereum’s Civil War, L2 Taxation, and Vitalik’s Milady Moment

    Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. In this episode, we dive into Ethereum’s growing identity crisis as frustration mounts over the Ethereum Foundation’s leadership, vision, and sluggish innovation. Is Ethereum losing its edge while Solana, Base, and Tron take over? We also break down the Second Foundation drama, discuss Justin Sun’s wild L2 taxation proposal, and debate whether Ethereum needs a CTO-style overhaul to stay competitive. Plus, Vitalik Buterin’s unexpected embrace of the Milady NFT movement and what Gary Gensler’s exit from the SEC means for the future of crypto regulation. Show highlights 🔹 Ethereum Civil War? The Ethereum Foundation (EF) faces internal and external backlash as Vitalik defends its “WEF soy boy” ethos. Critics call for leadership changes, faster innovation, and a more aggressive growth strategy. 🔹 Second Foundation Fakeout: Rumors spread that Lido’s founder was launching a rival EF, briefly pumping ETH before being debunked. The buzz reignites calls for governance changes. 🔹 L2 Taxation Debate: Justin Sun proposes a 5B ETH tariff on rollups to fund buybacks, sparking debates on Ethereum’s fragmented ecosystem and lack of value accrual. 🔹 Vitalik Goes Milady: Ethereum’s co-founder embraces the Milady NFT subculture, changes his profile pic, and adopts the meme’s signature sign-off, fueling speculation about crypto’s shifting cultural landscape. 🔹 Ethereum’s Identity Crisis: With Solana, Base, and Tron dominating user adoption, is Ethereum too slow and academic to compete? Calls for an Ethereum “CTO” or more centralized execution grow louder. 🔹 Gensler’s Next Move: Gary Gensler exits the SEC and returns to MIT to teach AI & finance. Crypto celebrates his departure, while an AI-generated rap video mocks his legacy. Hosts ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly ⭐️Robert Leshner, CEO & Co-founder of Superstate ⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures ⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly  Disclosures Links Hayden Adam’s Tweet:  https://x.com/haydenzadams/status/1884134669265891433 Justin Sun’s EF Plan Tweet: https://x.com/justinsuntron/status/1881999625990836229  Scaling Ethereum L1 and L2s in 2025 and Beyond by Vitalik Buterin: https://vitalik.eth.limo/general/2025/01/23/l1l2future.html  Zen and the Art of Shifting Mindsets in Technology: Aya Miyaguchi interview in Wired Magazine: https://wired.jp/article/the-next-innovators-4-aya-miyaguchi-en/  Timestamps  00:00 Intro 01:47 Ethereum Foundation's Civil War 05:53 The Bronze Age Mentality 07:32 Community Criticism and Governance 10:03 Vitalik's New Persona: Embracing Milady 14:33 Future of Ethereum and L2s 37:39 L1 vs L2: Do People Really Care? 42:12 Ethereum's Strategy and Colonialism Analogy 46:10 The Role of the Ethereum Foundation 58:34 Gary Gensler's Move to MIT and His Legacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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  7. 1月31日

    Crypto Kidnappings and Physical Attacks Are on the Rise—Here’s How to Stay Safe

    The kidnapping of Ledger co-founder David Balland in France sent shockwaves through the crypto community, raising urgent questions about security for high-profile crypto holders. How do you protect yourself when criminals are willing to go beyond digital attacks and resort to violence? In this episode of Unchained, Jameson Lopp, co-founder and Chief Security Officer of Casa, speaks about the growing trend of “wrench attacks”—physical assaults aimed at forcing crypto holders to transfer their assets. Lopp explains how these attacks are evolving, what makes someone a target, and which geographies are seeing the most attacks. Plus, he shares what behaviors put you most at risk, how criminals are getting more organized, and why relying on exchanges for security is not as safe as you think.  If you hold significant crypto wealth, this is an episode you can’t afford to miss. Show highlights: 2:02 How a Ledger co-founder was kidnapped and how the situation was resolved 6:46 Who tends to be targeted and which geographies see the most physical attacks 14:15 The riskiest behaviors that are likely to lead to wrench attacks 16:01 How attackers decide who to target  20:37 How the attacks have been accelerating lately  22:16 How the Ledger team ensured the kidnappers couldn’t access the ransom money  23:44 Jameson’s top tips on how crypto holders can stay safe 29:30 News Recap Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Thank you to our sponsors! Mantle Polkadot Quai Network Guest  Jameson Lopp, co-founder and Chief Security Officer of Casa Links Previous coverage of Unchained on crypto security: Here’s How to Protect Your Crypto and Seed Phrases From Natural Disasters Reuters: Kidnapped co-founder of French crypto firm Ledger had his hand mutilated Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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  8. 1月29日

    Bits + Bips: Why Bitcoin Was Strong Amid the DeepSeek Selloff But a Drop May Be Coming

    From AI shaking up Big Tech to bitcoin’s role in the macro landscape, Jim Bianco delivers insights on the DeepSeek-triggered market selloff, memecoins, and the challenges facing traditional systems. In this episode, the macro strategist shares why DeepSeek’s AI model is reshaping competition, how crypto reserves might evolve, and what happens to MicroStrategy if bitcoin’s price takes a hit. Plus, hear his take on why stablecoins are a threat to banks, and why memecoins could be more than speculation. Show highlights: What of crypto attracted Jim so much 0:49 What of crypto attracted Jim so much 6:15 Why the DeepSeek new model was so disruptive 12:47 Whether the biggest loser is OpenAI, not all the Mag 7 16:14 Whether we’ll see a major macro response from U.S. companies and government 26:06 What will happen next with the price of bitcoin 28:54 What would happen to MSTR if bitcoin goes 30% lower 34:11 How Trump was able to move so fast since the inauguration 39:30 Why the Fed should not do QE, according to Jim 49:02 How memecoins could be designed to be much more than speculative assets 53:03 Why James hopes the SEC doesn’t approve all the memecoin ETF applications 58:06 Whether banks will start onboarding crypto companies 1:05:52 Why stablecoins poise an existential threat to the current banking system 1:11:19 Whether it’s a bad idea for the U.S. to acquire other cryptos that are not bitcoin Hosts: James Seyffart, Research Analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence Ram Ahluwalia, CFA, CEO and Founder of Lumida Noelle Acheson, Author of the “Crypto Is Macro Now” Newsletter  Guest: Jim Bianco, President and Macro Strategist at Bianco Research Links CNN Business: Trump announces a $500 billion AI infrastructure investment in the US Unchained: Tuttle Capital Files for 10 Leveraged Crypto ETFs CoinDesk: Nasdaq Files for In-Kind Redemptions for BlackRock Spot Bitcoin ETF Reuters: US, Colombia reach deal on deportations; tariff, sanctions put on hold Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Crypto assets and blockchain technology are about to transform every trust-based interaction of our lives, from financial services to identity to the Internet of Things. In this podcast, host Laura Shin, an independent journalist covering all things crypto, talks with industry pioneers about how crypto assets and blockchains will change the way we earn, spend and invest our money. Tune in to find out how Web 3.0, the decentralized web, will revolutionize our world. Disclosure: I'm a nocoiner.

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