The Aspiring Psychologist Podcast

Dr Marianne Trent
The Aspiring Psychologist Podcast

Welcome to The Aspiring Psychologist Podcast with me, Dr Marianne Trent. What you'll get by subscribing to this podcast is access to free tips and tricks to get yourself feeling more confident about building the right skills and experiences to help you in your career as an a Aspiring Psychologist. Hosted by me... Dr Marianne Trent, a qualified Clinical Psychologist in private practice and lead author of The Clinical Psychologist Collective & The Aspiring psychologist Collective and Creator of The Aspiring Psychologist Membership. Within this podcast it is my aim to provide you with the kind of show I would have wanted to listen to when I was in your position! I was striving for ‘relevant’ experience, wanting to get the most out of my paid work and developing the right skills to help me to keep on track for my goals of becoming a qualified psychologist! Regardless of what flavour of Psychology you aspire to: Clinical, Counselling, Health, Forensic, Occupational or Educational there will be plenty of key points to pique your interest and get you thinking. There's also super relevant content for anyone who is already a qualified psychologist too! The podcast is a mixture of solo chats from me to you and also brilliant interview episodes with people about themes which really matter to you and to the profession too. I can't wait to demystify the process and help to break things down into simple steps which you can then take action on. I really want to help fire up your passions all the more so do tune in and subscribe. I love your comments too so don’t be a stranger! You are also welcomed and encouraged to connect with me on socials, check out the books, the membership and other ways of working with here: https://linktr.ee/drmariannetrent

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    What is it like going from trainee to qualified clinical psychologist?

    In this video Dr. Marianne Trent welcomes newly qualified clinical psychologist, Dr. David Singleton. They discuss the transition from trainee to qualified life, exploring the highs, the challenges, and the lessons learned. Dr. Singleton reflects on imposter syndrome, financial planning, and the joys of finding a role that aligns with your values. Guest: Dr. David Singleton – Newly Qualified Clinical Psychologist Highlights: In this video Dr. Marianne Trent welcomes newly qualified clinical psychologist, Dr. David Singleton. They discuss the transition from trainee to qualified life, exploring the highs, the challenges, and the lessons learned. Dr. Singleton reflects on imposter syndrome, financial planning, and the joys of finding a role that aligns with your values. Guest: Dr. David Singleton – Newly Qualified Clinical Psychologist Highlights: 00:00 - Introduction01:20 - Meet Dr. David Singleton05:06 - Navigating Rejections07:12 - The Importance of Reflective Writing11:01 - Loving the Work12:30 - Working at Maggie's17:49 - Transitioning to Qualified Life28:03 - Clinical Responsibility33:43 - Imposter Syndrome and Self-Compassion37:36 - Changes in Routine45:35 - Looking Ahead50:32 - Final Thoughts53:00 - Closing Remarks Links: 📲 Follow Dr David here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-david-singleton-97303985/ 🫶 To support me by donating to help cover my costs for the free resources I provide click here: https://the-aspiring-psychologist.captivate.fm/support 📚 To check out The Clinical Psychologist Collective Book: https://amzn.to/3jOplx0 📖 To check out The Aspiring Psychologist Collective Book: https://amzn.to/3CP2N97 💡 To check out or join the aspiring psychologist membership for just £30 per month head to: https://www.goodthinkingpsychology.co.uk/membership-interested 🖥️ Check out my brand new short courses for aspiring psychologists and mental health professionals here: https://www.goodthinkingpsychology.co.uk/short-courses ✍️ Get your Supervision Shaping Tool now: https://www.goodthinkingpsychology.co.uk/supervision 📱Connect socially with Marianne and check out ways to work with her, including the Aspiring Psychologist Book, Clinical Psychologist book and The Aspiring Psychologist Membership on her Link tree: https://linktr.ee/drmariannetrent 💬 To join my free Facebook group and discuss your thoughts on this episode and more: https://www.facebook.com/groups/aspiringpsychologistcommunity Like, Comment, Subscribe & get involved: If you enjoy the podcast, please do subscribe and rate and review episodes. If you'd like to learn how to record and submit your own audio testimonial to be included in future shows head to: a...

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    What is a Psychological Wellbeing Practitioner? Insights from a Qualified PWP

    Show Notes for The Aspiring Psychologist Podcast Episode 158: What is a Psychological Wellbeing Practitioner Insights from a Qualified PWP Episode Description: In this episode of the Aspiring Psychologist Podcast, Dr. Marianne Trent sits down with Ben Olofson, a qualified Psychological Wellbeing Practitioner (PWP), to explore the PWP role, training, and career opportunities. They discuss the journey to becoming a PWP, the challenges and rewards of the profession, and how it fits into the broader landscape of mental health careers. Whether you're considering the PWP pathway or are just curious about this impactful role, this episode is packed with valuable information and inspiration. Guest: Ben Olofson – Qualified Psychological Wellbeing Practitioner, sharing his experiences, training journey, and insights into the PWP profession. ________________________________________ Key Takeaways: • PWP Overview: Psychological Wellbeing Practitioners primarily work with low mood, anxiety, and other mental health challenges using low-intensity CBT approaches. They offer both individual and group interventions. • Training Pathway: PWPs undergo a year of training, blending academic study with supervised practice, and are supported by supervisors and tutors throughout. • Role Benefits: Offers a structured pathway into mental health work with opportunities for progression to senior roles or alternative careers in psychology. • Caseload Realities: The role involves managing a high volume of clients with robust support systems, including supervision, to prevent burnout. • Career Advice: Reflect on transferable skills, focus on client engagement, and prepare for a varied and rewarding role in mental health. ________________________________________ Highlights: (00:00) – Episode introduction: Exploring the role of a Psychological Wellbeing Practitioner.(02:08) – Welcome to guest Ben Olofson, a qualified PWP.(03:35) – What drew Ben to the PWP role and its unique training structure.(05:28) – The balance of academic work and clinical practice in training.(06:34) – Addressing imposter syndrome and the support available for trainees.(08:56) – Practical considerations when applying for PWP roles.(11:04) – Transitioning from training to qualified work and the variety of clinical presentations handled by PWPs.(17:28) – The importance of supervision and personal well-being in the role.(20:54) – Managing high caseloads and the significance of job planning.(23:37) – Long-term career progression within the PWP profession.(25:21) – Pay bands for trainees, qualified, and senior PWPs.(28:48) – Entry requirements and advice for aspiring PWPs.(31:51) – Reflecting on transferable skills and personal experiences for mental health roles.(32:46) – Final thoughts from Ben on the rewards and challenges of being a PWP. Links: 📲 Connect with Ben here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benolofson/ 🫶 To support me by donating to help cover my costs for the free resources I provide click here: https://the-aspiring-psychologist.captivate.fm/support 📚 To check out The Clinical Psychologist Collective Book: https://amzn.to/3jOplx0 📖 To check out The Aspiring Psychologist Collective Book: https://amzn.to/3CP2N97 💡 To check out or join the aspiring psychologist membership for just £30 per month head to: a...

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    Breastfeeding and Perinatal Mental Health: Challenges in South Asian Communities

    Show Notes for The Aspiring Psychologist Podcast Episode 157: Breastfeeding and Perinatal Mental Health: Challenges in South Asian Communities In this episode of the Aspiring Psychologist Podcast, Dr. Marianne Trent speaks with Zaynab Khan to explore the unique challenges faced by South Asian women during the perinatal period, particularly around breastfeeding. They dive into cultural expectations, healthcare barriers, and the importance of culturally sensitive support to help South Asian women achieve their breastfeeding goals. This episode is invaluable for both practitioners and those interested in understanding the specific mental health needs in this community. Guest: • Zaynab Khan – Researcher focused on culturally appropriate care for South Asian women. Key Takeaways: Cultural Impact on Care: Discover how cultural practices shape breastfeeding experiences for South Asian women.Overcoming Barriers: Understand the common misconceptions and barriers to mental health support.Importance of Community: Learn why family and community support is essential in the perinatal journey.Culturally Sensitive Healthcare: Explore the benefits of respectful, tailored healthcare for South Asian mothers. Highlights: (00:00) – Introduction to breastfeeding and perinatal challenges for South Asian women.(01:44) – Zaynab shares her research on breastfeeding within the South Asian community.(03:19) – Discussion of cultural clothing and its impact on breastfeeding practicality.(04:42) – Barriers like public stigma and the role of male family members in breastfeeding support.(06:14) – Addressing misconceptions around high BMI and breastfeeding capability.(07:52) – Historical influence of formula promotion in South Asia and its cultural effects.(10:15) – The role of community and family support in breastfeeding success.(12:50) – Importance of cultural respect and support for South Asian women during perinatal care.(15:05) – Religious and cultural perspectives on breastfeeding duration.(17:24) – Modesty and body exposure concerns in breastfeeding for South Asian women.(19:46) – Dr. Trent reflects on her breastfeeding experience and societal expectations.(21:08) – Encouraging culturally sensitive conversations in healthcare.(22:57) – Zaynab shares where listeners can connect with her and learn more about her research. Links: 📲 Connect with Zaynab Khan here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zaynab-khan/ 🫶 To support me by donating to help cover my costs for the free resources I provide click here: https://the-aspiring-psychologist.captivate.fm/support 📚 To check out The Clinical Psychologist Collective Book: https://amzn.to/3jOplx0 📖 To check out The Aspiring Psychologist Collective Book: https://amzn.to/3CP2N97 💡 To check out or join the aspiring psychologist membership for just £30 per month head to: https://www.goodthinkingpsychology.co.uk/membership-interested ✍️ Get your Supervision Shaping Tool now: https://www.goodthinkingpsychology.co.uk/supervision 📱Connect socially with Marianne and check out...

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    Understanding South Asian Mental Health

    In this thought-provoking episode of the Aspiring Psychologist Podcast, Dr. Marianne Trent welcomes Zaynab Khan to discuss the unique mental health challenges faced by South Asian communities. Together, they explore the cultural, social, and familial factors that shape mental health perceptions and support systems for individuals from these backgrounds. This conversation highlights the importance of cultural sensitivity in healthcare and offers insights for both practitioners and those seeking to understand the mental health needs of South Asian communities. Guest: • Zaynab Khan – Researcher and advocate for mental health awareness within South Asian communities. Highlights: (00:00) – Introduction to the topic and guest.(01:02) – Overview of why South Asian communities may feel overlooked in mental and physical healthcare.(02:10) – Zaynab shares her experience of limited representation in psychology during her studies.(03:35) – Discussing the importance of demographic representation beyond broad categories like "Asian."(04:37) – Unique cultural perspectives on mental health within South Asian families.(07:08) – Challenges faced by South Asian youth bridging cultural and Western identities.(10:17) – Importance of research teams reflecting cultural diversity for effective outreach.(12:50) – How cultural sensitivities, like avoiding Friday appointments, can improve patient engagement.(15:04) – Utilising community spaces, such as mosques, for culturally relevant mental health support.(17:10) – Barriers to healthcare for communities not engaged with digital resources.(22:31) – Stigma surrounding mental health issues within South Asian communities and its impact on care.(24:53) – Addressing cultural practices, like fasting and menstruation, and their influence on mental health perceptions.(29:49) – Importance of professional interpreters for clear and effective communication in mental health services.(31:46) – Closing reflections on imposter syndrome and Zaynab’s journey into mental health advocacy. Links: 📲Connect with Zaynab here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zaynab-khan/ 🫶 To support me by donating to help cover my costs for the free resources I provide click here: https://the-aspiring-psychologist.captivate.fm/support 📚 To check out The Clinical Psychologist Collective Book: https://amzn.to/3jOplx0 📖 To check out The Aspiring Psychologist Collective Book: https://amzn.to/3CP2N97 💡 To check out or join the aspiring psychologist membership for just £30 per month head to: https://www.goodthinkingpsychology.co.uk/membership-interested ✍️ Get your Supervision Shaping Tool now: https://www.goodthinkingpsychology.co.uk/supervision 📱Connect socially with Marianne and check out ways to work with her, including the Aspiring Psychologist Book, Clinical Psychologist book and The Aspiring Psychologist Membership on her Link tree: https://linktr.ee/drmariannetrent 💬 To join my free Facebook group and discuss your thoughts on this episode and more: a...

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    Imposter Syndrome: Why You Feel Like a Fraud (And How to Overcome It)

    In this episode of the Aspiring Psychologist Podcast, Dr. Marianne Trent dives deep into the concept of imposter syndrome. She explores why so many of us, despite our achievements, feel like we don't belong and are on the verge of being "found out." Dr. Trent breaks down the psychological roots of imposter syndrome, how it manifests, and offers practical strategies to help you overcome these feelings. Whether you're an aspiring psychologist or navigating self-doubt in your career or personal life, this episode provides tools to reclaim your confidence and start celebrating your successes. ________________________________________ Key Takeaways: • What imposter syndrome is and why it affects even high achievers.• Common signs of imposter syndrome and how it manifests in different areas of life.• Practical strategies for reframing thoughts and reducing negative self-talk.• The importance of developing a growth mindset and celebrating your successes. ________________________________________ Highlights: 00:00 - Introduction to Imposter Syndrome and Episode Overview00:45 - What Is Imposter Syndrome and Why Does It Happen?02:12 - The Impact of Imposter Syndrome Across Careers and Life Stages03:49 - Childhood Experiences and How They Shape Imposter Syndrome05:34 - Cultural and Societal Influences on Feeling Like an Imposter06:57 - Recognizing Self-Doubt and Negative Self-Talk08:32 - Signs of Imposter Syndrome: Undervaluing Accomplishments10:15 - Reframing Thoughts and Celebrating Small Wins11:14 - Developing a Growth Mindset and Learning from Mistakes12:05 - Building Confidence: Owning Your Successes and Mistakes13:00 - Actionable Advice: Write Down Three Recent Successes 💻 Check out my short courses for aspiring psychologists and mental health professionals here: https://www.goodthinkingpsychology.co.uk/short-courses 🫶 To support me by donating to help cover my costs for the free resources I provide click here: https://the-aspiring-psychologist.captivate.fm/support 📚 To check out The Clinical Psychologist Collective Book: https://amzn.to/3jOplx0 📖 To check out The Aspiring Psychologist Collective Book: https://amzn.to/3CP2N97 💡 To check out or join the aspiring psychologist membership for just £30 per month head to: https://www.goodthinkingpsychology.co.uk/membership-interested ✍️ Get your Supervision Shaping Tool now: https://www.goodthinkingpsychology.co.uk/supervision 📱Connect socially with Marianne and check out ways to work with her, including the Aspiring Psychologist Book, Clinical Psychologist book and The Aspiring Psychologist Membership on her Link tree: https://linktr.ee/drmariannetrent 💬 To join my free Facebook group and discuss your thoughts on this episode and more: https://www.facebook.com/groups/aspiringpsychologistcommunity Like, Comment, Subscribe & get involved: If you enjoy the...

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    What is ISTDP? The Therapy That Transforms Emotional Healing

    Show Notes for The Aspiring Psychologist Podcast Episode 154: What is ISTDP? The Therapy That Transforms Emotional Healing This episode is a fascinating exploration of how ISTDP offers a pathway to deeply transformative emotional work, encouraging both clients and practitioners to unlock their potential. Dr. Marianne Trent dives deep into Intensive Short-Term Dynamic Psychotherapy (ISTDP) with Clinical Psychologist Dr. Suzanne Brown. They explore how ISTDP addresses underlying emotional conflicts to alleviate mental health challenges like anxiety and depression. Dr. Brown shares her journey with ISTDP, its transformative potential, and the profound impact it can have on emotional healing. Guest: • Dr. Suzanne Brown – Clinical Psychologist with extensive experience in ISTDP, sports psychology, and embodied therapy practices. Key Takeaways: • ISTDP’s Approach to Therapy: Understanding the significance of unconscious conflicts, feelings, and defenses that drive behaviours and impact mental health.• Two Key Triangles: Dr. Brown discusses the “triangle of person” and the “triangle of conflict” to map therapeutic progress.• Importance of Therapist Self-Work: Dr. Brown emphasises the necessity of therapists undergoing their own therapeutic work to offer authentic, effective support.• Emotional Fitness in Sport: How ISTDP principles apply to high-performance athletes, helping them manage emotions and improve focus.• ISTDP in Practice: Techniques like videotaping sessions for supervision to refine therapeutic skills and build self-awareness. Highlights: (00:00) – Introduction to ISTDP and today’s guest, Dr. Suzanne Brown.(01:46) – Dr. Brown’s background and career journey, including her work in sports psychology.(05:27) – Overview of ISTDP and the importance of addressing unconscious feelings and defences.(08:07) – Dr. Trent and Dr. Brown discuss their experiences with the ISTDP triangles and formulation in therapy.(12:35) – The role of trial therapy in ISTDP and working through compliance, defiance, and dependency.(17:17) – Dr. Brown on the importance of therapist authenticity and human connection.(22:04) – The role of personal therapy and supervision in a therapist's growth.(24:28) – Handling transference and countertransference with clients.(31:12) – How ISTDP techniques can help athletes manage stress and anxiety.(36:12) – Portrait exercises in ISTDP to help clients face intense feelings.(37:17) – Recommended resources for learning about ISTDP, including books and training opportunities.(40:31) – Closing thoughts from Dr. Brown on embodied therapy and upcoming workshops. Links: 📲 Connect with Dr Suzanne Brown here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drsuzannebrown/ https://www.emotionallyconnected.co.uk/ https://www.instagram.com/emotionallyconnected/ 🖥️ Check out my brand new short courses for aspiring psychologists and mental health professionals here: https://www.goodthinkingpsychology.co.uk/short-courses 🫶 To support me by donating to help cover my costs for the free resources I provide click here: https://the-aspiring-psychologist.captivate.fm/support 📚 To check out The Clinical Psychologist...

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    How to shout less at your children or help your clients shout less at theirs - psychologist tips

    Episode 153: How to shout less at your children or help your clients shout less at theirs - psychologist tips In this valuable episode of the Aspiring Psychologist Podcast, Dr. Marianne Trent welcomes Clinical Psychologist and Parenting Coach, Dr. Jade Redfern. They discuss the challenges parents face, especially the guilt associated with shouting at their kids. Dr. Redfern offers helpful insights on how to reduce shouting by focusing on emotional regulation for both parents and children. The episode includes practical strategies for managing stressful moments with kids, teaching parents how to co-regulate emotions and develop healthier communication within the family. Guest: • Dr. Jade Redfern – Clinical Psychologist and Parenting Coach, specialising in emotional regulation for children and parents. ________________________________________ Key Takeaways: • Shouting often comes from parents feeling overwhelmed; recognising triggers and taking steps to regulate emotions can help reduce shouting.• Co-regulation is key: parents can model calmness and emotional regulation for their children, which can lead to better emotional responses from them.• Singing or using your voice in other ways can be a surprising but effective tool for calming both yourself and your child in heated moments.• Small, consistent steps in emotional regulation throughout the day can prevent end-of-day exhaustion and shouting.• Good parenting isn't about being perfect; it's about being "good enough" and learning to repair relationships after difficult moments. ________________________________________ Highlights: (01:30) – Guest Introduction: Dr. Jade Redfern (02:17) – What listeners can expect to learn: tips for reducing guilt and finding calm as a parent.(03:47) – Addressing guilt and shame in parenting, especially for psychologists and social care workers.(07:54) – How parenting triggers can activate unresolved emotions and challenge our ability to stay calm.(16:44) – The importance of modelling self-care and emotional regulation for your children.(19:34) – Simple but powerful techniques for parents to regulate their nervous system throughout the day.(22:19) – The role of singing or using your voice to release built-up tension before shouting.(30:34) – Reflecting on moments when parents feel overwhelmed, and how children mirror emotional regulation from their parents.(41:09) – How parents can access more of Dr. Jade Redfern’s resources and join her parenting community. Links: 📲Connect with Dr Jade: https://www.instagram.com/drjaderedfern/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jade-redfern-211646127/ Parenting membership: https://www.drjaderedfern.co.uk/inside-out-parenting-membership Free FB group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/theconsciousparentgroup 🖥️ Check out my brand new short courses for aspiring psychologists and mental health professionals here: https://www.goodthinkingpsychology.co.uk/short-courses 🫶 To support me by donating to help cover my costs for the free resources I provide click here: a href="https://the-aspiring-psychologist.captivate.fm/support"...

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    What is Controlling and Coercive Behaviour? Coercive Control

    Show Notes for The Aspiring Psychologist Podcast Episode 152: What is coercive and controlling behaviour? In this episode of the Aspiring Psychologist Podcast, Dr. Marianne Trent is joined by Chrissy Roberts to explore the topic of coercive control. They delve into the subtle yet powerful tactics that define coercive control, how it affects the victim's sense of self-worth, and the long-lasting impact it can have on relationships. Chrissy shares her personal experience with coercive control and sheds light on how these patterns of abuse can manifest in any type of relationship—not just romantic ones. This episode is essential listening for those in the mental health field, as well as anyone who wants to better understand the signs of coercive control and how to support those who may be affected. ________________________________________ Key Takeaways: • Understanding coercive control as a subtle but dangerous form of abuse. • Recognising the signs and patterns in different types of relationships. • The emotional impact of coercive control on victims and why it is difficult to leave. • How perpetrators use manipulation, isolation, and gaslighting to maintain control. ________________________________________ Highlights: 00:00 - Introduction and Overview of Coercive Control01:26 - Guest Introduction: Chrissy Roberts02:47 - The Importance of Raising Awareness About Coercive Control04:03 - Defining Coercive Control and Its Legal Background05:34 - How Coercive Control Affects the Victim's Sense of Self-Worth06:57 - Recognising Coercive Control Beyond Romantic Relationships08:32 - How Vulnerabilities Make Some People More Susceptible to Coercive Control09:18 - The Pattern of Coercive Control in Parent-Child Relationships10:03 - Medical and Financial Control as Forms of Coercive Behaviour12:30 - The Complex Emotional Nature of Coercive Relationships14:01 - The Role of Love Bombing and Manipulation in Coercive Control17:05 - Emotional Red Flags and How Victims Are Made to Feel Responsible19:27 - Gaslighting: Making Victims Doubt Their Own Reality21:47 - Rebuilding Trust in Yourself After Being Gaslighted24:38 - The Challenges of Legally Defining and Prosecuting Coercive Control26:43 - The Importance of Education on Healthy Relationships28:28 - Closing Thoughts and Where to Find Support Links: 📲 Connect with Chrissy Roberts here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christina-roberts-022146aa/ 🖥️ Check out my brand new short courses for aspiring psychologists and mental health professionals here: https://www.goodthinkingpsychology.co.uk/short-courses 🫶 To support me by donating to help cover my costs for the free resources I provide click here: https://the-aspiring-psychologist.captivate.fm/support 📚 To check out The Clinical Psychologist Collective Book: https://amzn.to/3jOplx0 📖 To check out The Aspiring Psychologist Collective Book: https://amzn.to/3CP2N97 💡 To check out or join the aspiring psychologist membership for just £30 per month head to: a href="https://www.goodthinkingpsychology.co.uk/membership-interested" rel="noopener noreferrer"...

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Welcome to The Aspiring Psychologist Podcast with me, Dr Marianne Trent. What you'll get by subscribing to this podcast is access to free tips and tricks to get yourself feeling more confident about building the right skills and experiences to help you in your career as an a Aspiring Psychologist. Hosted by me... Dr Marianne Trent, a qualified Clinical Psychologist in private practice and lead author of The Clinical Psychologist Collective & The Aspiring psychologist Collective and Creator of The Aspiring Psychologist Membership. Within this podcast it is my aim to provide you with the kind of show I would have wanted to listen to when I was in your position! I was striving for ‘relevant’ experience, wanting to get the most out of my paid work and developing the right skills to help me to keep on track for my goals of becoming a qualified psychologist! Regardless of what flavour of Psychology you aspire to: Clinical, Counselling, Health, Forensic, Occupational or Educational there will be plenty of key points to pique your interest and get you thinking. There's also super relevant content for anyone who is already a qualified psychologist too! The podcast is a mixture of solo chats from me to you and also brilliant interview episodes with people about themes which really matter to you and to the profession too. I can't wait to demystify the process and help to break things down into simple steps which you can then take action on. I really want to help fire up your passions all the more so do tune in and subscribe. I love your comments too so don’t be a stranger! You are also welcomed and encouraged to connect with me on socials, check out the books, the membership and other ways of working with here: https://linktr.ee/drmariannetrent

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