Unseen Leadership, hosted by Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter, explores the unseen stories that have made leaders who they are today. This is a podcast for young leaders to learn from those ahead of them by exploring the early days of their leadership, understanding the mistakes they made, and identifying the habits that shaped them. All to help you lead in the future. This podcast will be featuring guests like Carey Nieuwhof, Jamie Ivey, Clay Scroggins, Jackie Hill Perry, Levi Lusko, and many more.
Unseen Leadership Episode 50: Dianne Jago on Leaning into Our Weakness as Leader
In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Dianne Jago who is a military wife and mother of three residing in Pensacola, Florida. She is the founder and chief editor of Deeply Rooted Magazine, where she works with her team to encourage, inspire, and equip women to be deeply rooted in Christ alone. She is also the author of A Holy Pursuit .
During their conversation, they discuss how to lead a remote team, how to bring a dream to a reality, and how to lean into our weakness as leaders.
QUOTES FROM EPISODE 50:
“When leading a remote team, I learned we had to clearly communicate the vision and set clear expectations.”
“I needed to make sure I was leading my kids and leading in my home first before my business.”
“Oftentimes leaders desire influence and they want to change the world, and that really starts in the home.”
“I wish early on I had the ability to delegate. I was a perfection, and now I’m a recovering perfection.”
“God’s grace is sufficient and his power is made perfect in our weakness, even in our weakness as leaders.”
Deeply Rooted Magazine
A Holy Pursuit by Dianne Jago
Discipline by Elisabeth Elliot
Checklist Manifesto by Atul Gawande
Do More Better: A Practical Guide to Productivity by Tim Challies
Be Still My Soul by Elisabeth Elliot
Unseen Leadership Episode 49: Barnabas Piper on Living Up to Expectations as a Pastor’s Kid
In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Barnabas Piper who is on staff at Immanuel Church in Nashville, TN. He is also the author of The Pastor's Kid and Help My Unbelief AND He co-hosts the popular Happy Rant podcast. Exciting news…..he also just released a new book called Hoping for Happiness.
During their conversation, they discuss how to wait on the Lord in your work, growing in humility as a leader, and living up to expectations as a pastor’s kid.
QUOTES FROM EPISODE 49:
“Happiness is not promised to us in our work. Go back and read Genesis 3. Genesis 3 basically says our work is going to be a pain, often.”
“Keep the room clean where you are until God opens the door to the next place.”
“Every time I have ever tried hard to change my work situation, I’ve screwed it up. When I’ve decided to faithfully work where I am and God handles the transition, I’ve been put in a spot that is clearly the best spot for me to be in.”
“To be humble takes a profound amount of security in the Lord. Because you are volunteering to be lower than other people.”
“More is expected of leaders. That’s part of the job.”
“I liked passing the buck and taking the credit, which is the opposite of leadership.”
“If we are marked by the things that we are trying to avoid, we are aimless.”
5LQ Episode 1: John Piper
Hoping for Happiness by Barnabas Piper
Gentle and Lowly by Dane Ortlund
Ragamuffin Gospel by Brennan Manning
The Son by Philipp Meyer
Working by Robert A. Caro
Unseen Leadership Episode 48: Dorena Williamson on Becoming a Bridge Builder
In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Dorena Williamson who is a proud mother, a passionate teacher, and a devoted bridge-builder. She is also the author of ColorFull, ThoughtFull, and GraceFull, which are children’s books that celebrate God’s diverse kingdom.
During their conversation, they discuss what it means to be a bridge-builder, the necessity of listening and learning from others, and how to focus on pleasing God more than people.
QUOTES FROM EPISODE 48:
“Oftentimes, bridgebuilders get walked on because that is what bridges were designed for.”
“The ultimate bridge builder was Jesus the Messiah. He gave his life to create a bridge for us to God.”
“We must posture ourselves as listeners and learners.”
“We need to do what we are called to do and that is not to please people, that is to aim to please God.”
“Support and loyalty are not always the same thing.”
“If someone is more loyal to me than they are to Christ, then I have failed them.”
Designed to Lead by Eric Geiger and Kevin Peck
Healing Racial Trauma: The Road to Resilience by Sheila Wise Rowe
Unseen Leadership Episode 47: Matt Chandler on Being Diagnosed with Brain Cancer as a Young Leader
In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Matt Chandler who is the lead pastor of teaching at The Village Church in Dallas, Texas, and the president of Acts 29. He has authored several books, including To Live Is Christ to Die Is Gain, Creature of the Word, and The Explicit Gospel.
During their conversation, they discuss how Matt was diagnosed with brain cancer as a young leader, how to understand yourself as a leader, and how to create an ideal week and schedule your days.
QUOTES FROM EPISODE 47:
“I’m all gas and no brakes. So I needed some brakes around me. Or we were going to do 6,000 things and none of them well.”
“As leaders, we need to flank our weakness and bolster our strengths with the people around us.”
“The biggest pivotal moment that changed my life was when I got brain cancer, and honestly, it was both the scariest and coolest season of my life.”
“My heart when coming to the Village Church was that I didn’t want to make it my church.”
“What’s going on inside of me is a question leaders don’t pay attention to often enough.”
“Without repetition, there is no formation.” - Jon Tyson
“As a young leader, I had the misconception that people would just do what I said.”
“There is a game we play of winning over people and learning to take an idea from our head and to its inception and not destroy people along the way.”
Essentialism: The Disciplined Pursuit of Less by Greg McKeown
The Ride of a Lifetime by Robert Iger
Unseen Leadership Episode 46: Alexandra Hoover on Rooting our Identity in Christ, Not our Role
In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Alexandra Hoover who is a wife, mother, Bible teacher, and writer. She has the privilege of serving on staff at Transformation Church as the Assistant Director of Equipping. She’s passionate about communicating the love of Jesus, whether it be through writing or speaking.
During their conversation, they discuss how to lead up to older leaders, how to lead those who have hurt you, and how to root our identity in Christ, not our role.
QUOTES FROM EPISODE 46:
“Often as leaders, especially young leaders in our culture, we think success is microwavable.”
“Our identity has to be so rooted in Christ and who he is so that changes and transitions and challenges don’t throw us but grow us.”
“We should be working from a place of love not for a place of love.”
“We need to constantly be asking ourselves, “Am I being pushed by fear or pulled by love?”
“When I think about leadership, I think about humility.”
“We must practice humility even with those who are wrong and even with those who hurt you.”
“The biggest flex in the kingdom of God is when you are able to love those who have hurt you.”
“Remember that your identity is not defined by your role.”
The Next Right Thing by Emily P. Freeman
How to Lead When You are Not in Charge by Clay Scroggins
When to Walk Away: Finding Freedom from Toxic People by Gary Thomas
Unseen Leadership Episode 45: Ben Mandrell on Transitioning from Church Planter to CEO of LifeWay
In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Ben Mandrell who is the former Senior Pastor of Inglewood Baptist Church and the founding planter of Storyline Fellowship in Arvada, CO. He is now the President and CEO of LifeWay Christian Resources.
During their conversation, they discuss the link between teaching and leadership, productivity tips to stay organized as a leader, and Ben’s transition from church planting to LifeWay.
QUOTES FROM EPISODE 45:
“A mark of a great leader is that we are always learning and growing and nobody has it all together.”
“Words create worlds.”
“The words you choose to communicate create culture more than anything else.”
“As we become more churchy, we become less interesting to the unchurched.”
“Child-like faith is something that we never graduate from.”
“Your head is for having ideas, not for holding them.”
“The more clear and the more strong and more bold you are in a general direction, the more haters you will have.”
“Don’t be overconfident in what you can accomplish in a year, and don’t be under confident in what you can accomplish in five years.”
Great Leader, Great Teacher by Gary J. Bredfeldt
Getting Things Done by David Allen
When by Daniel Pink
Sacred Pathways by Gary Thomas
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Are y’all still doing podcasts for this - been awhile since one was released. Or are y’all taking a break?
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