Warfare of Art & Law Podcast Stephanie Drawdy

Show Notes:
0:00 Yelena Khajekian
1:30 Warhol v Goldsmith decision by SCOTUS 
3:00 USCO NOI’s Question 8
4:00 Google LLC v. Oracle America, Inc., 593 U.S. ___ (2021)
4:20 liability question
4:45 Emily Gould - fair use
6:30 Alan Robertshaw - Warhol court’s focus on use of the work
7:50 Khajekian - artists’ perspective on Warhol decision
9:00 Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music, Inc., 510 U.S. 569 (1994)
10:20 confusion of fair use analysis and court’s aesthetic analysis
12:00 USCO NOI’s Question about fair use 
13:00 Robertshaw - UK’s fair dealing analysis
15:50 Gould - big players like Getty 
17:45 text and data mining exception
20:10 Drawdy - private contracting as a solution
21:00 Robertshaw - Getty
22:15 Khajekian - conceptual art
25:55 Warhol’s 2 Cir decision 
26:50 Gould & Khajekian - Richard Prince decision held not fair use
27:20 Khajekian - equity issue
28:40 Gould - UK courts’ emphasis on purpose, e.g., Stormtrooper helmet case 
30:30 Drawdy - amount and substantiality of use
31:10 Gould - Australian case about Men at Work’s use of folk song Kookaburra in its pop song Down Under
32:20 Robershaw - dispute over Vanilla Ice’s Ice Ice Baby
33:00 Ed Sheeran  
34:15 Getty case pending in UK
35:00 Khajekian - international versus US issues 
37:30 Robershaw - test that contemplates level of effort or end result regarding AI output
40:30 Gould - risks involved with AI
40:50 EU’s application-based approach 
41:10 AI for medical applications
41:55 detecting forgeries will still require humans, e.g., conflicting AI results regarding Raphael
42:50  implicit bias in AI
43:15 dogs detecting forgeries 
43:40 chickens detecting shapes
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© Stephanie Drawdy [2023]

Cover art: Martha Szabo, Rooftops in Snow 11, oil on linen, 24 x 35 in., circa 1964

To learn more, please visit the sites for Martha Szabo and MSeum.

Show Notes:

0:00 Art historian Kathleen Hulser

1:30 Journalist Julia Szabo’s motivation to work on Martha Szabo’s body of work

4:30 MSeum to be built in the Catskills

5:00 National Association of Women in Construction

7:50 Justice for unknown female artists

11:15 Museum’s mission related to blind and low-vision visitors

13:45 Sculpture Robin Antar’s limestone sculpture of Szabo’s “Red Sunset”

15:20 Legacy to be created with MSeum includes redefining storage

16:45 Visible storage space

18:30 Julia Szabo’s parents

19:45 ‘Mother Artist’ field of scholarship

20:00 Author Hettie Judah

21:20 Reception for Martha Szabo’s exhibition Up On the Roof

22:10 Artist Christina Massey

23:20 Museum’s director Kathleen Hulser

24:30 “Up On the Roof” exhibition curated by Hulser

26:00 “Incorrigibles” trans media project

27:45 MSeum’s creation and mission

34:15 Hulser’s scope a MuSeum

36:45 Martha Szabo’s background and how it impacted her work 

43:15 Feedback about Martha Szabo’s solo exhibition Up On The Roof: Liberation, Transformation, Celebration

49:35 MSeum and exhibitions like “Up On The Roof” role in bringing some historical justice for female creatives

52:10 David Richard Gallery



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© Stephanie Drawdy [2023]

Cover art by Donald "C-Note" Hooker: top image "Cell Time" (2019); bottom image "During the Flood" (2017)

To learn more, please visit the sites for Donald "C-Note" Hooker and Art for Redemption.

Show Notes:
0:00 Anna D. Smith discussing C-Note Hooker’s artwork entitled “During the Flood”
1:20 Smith’s background
3:15 Smith’s work as a court advocate
4:00 Smith’s adoption of son, Emmanuel 
4:45 Smith’s contact with artist Donald “C-Note” Hooker
5:55 Art for Redemption coffee book
6:10 C-Note’s work related to social justice
6:45 “During the Flood” aka “Count Time”
7:50 California prison built on flood-prone areas 
8:45 compensation for incarcerated workers
11:00 Smith’s efforts to sell C-Note’s artwork
11:45 billboards “Incarceration Nation” and “Look Up Hope and Beauty”
12:20 “Colored Girl Warhol”
13:20 Billboard events to raise awareness about issues for the individuals in the system, the homeless, parolees 
14:10 “Incarceration Nation”
14:50 misconceptions about individuals in the system
16:45 defining justice and amendment of the 13th Amendment 
19:00 power of imagery to impact social awareness about issues with the system
20:30 legacy and need for connections
21:00 Martin Luther King’s inspiration to love one’s enemies
24:00 incarcerated individual who entered contest about rehabilitation 
27:00 view of justice for Smith began with her father’s work as teacher of economics to those incarcerated
30:30 Vanity Fair article 
32:00 importance of the arts in the system 
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© Stephanie Drawdy [2023]

To learn more and support Vacant to Visual artists, please visit the CityKey website.

To reach out and learn more about Ernest Chrappah's work, please visit his website.

Show notes:

0:00 Ernest Chrappah
1:10 Chrappah’s background
4:00 Washington DC’s Vacant to Visual program
9:00 artists included in the Vacant to Visual program
9:50 Nia Keturah Calhoun
11:15 “Ro” Stephenson
12:00 Vacant to Visual NFTs
13:40 feedback from Vacant to Visual program
16:20 Vacant to Visual program as a model for other cities
18:20 his view on how art can be used to create a more just society
20:45 his defintiion of justice
23:15 future work
25:30 AI policy
28:30 Vacant To Visual Site and Vacant to Visual NFT purchase cite



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© Stephanie Drawdy [2023]

To learn more, please visit the website for the #lastseen project.

SHOW NOTES:
0:00 Katharina Menschick on the response to #lastseen project
3:00 Menschick – research associate in Arolsen Archives’ historical research department dealing with digital memory projects, digital archival projects and archival theory
3:20 Dr. Christoph Kreutzmüller – historian with Arolsen Archives and House of the Wannsee Conference in Berlin
3:45 mission of the #lastseen initiative
5:00 missing deportation photographs 
6:00 deportation photographs found by American GI and returned during Nuremberg trials
7:00 request for deportation photographs
7:20 types of deportation photographs 
8:30 Eisenach deportation – Magda Katz 
9:00 U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum research – donor identified uncle in photograph 
11:15 deportation from Dr. Kreutzmüller’s hometown
12:30 questions about why photographers took the deportation photos
13:00 spectatorship / audience of the photographs
14:20 importance of photographs as a historical source
14:45 virtual interactive educational resource
16:45 German high school pupils’ assistance in developing educational resource
18:10 difficulty of discussing bystanders 
19:30 photographs invite reflection 
22:00 historical transparency by telling what they don’t know 
25:00 giving context to photographs 
28:30 gaze of those photographed
29:15 propaganda film in Warsaw Ghetto
30:20 legacy of their work 
32:15 definition of justice – striving for fairness
33:00 real restoration cannot be achieved
34:00 doing justice to the photographs and to those in the photographs
34:45 restitution through archives 


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© Stephanie Drawdy [2023]

 SHOW NOTES:
0:00 Alan Robertshaw
1:00 Emily Gould - overview of AI historical development
2:30 first phase - 1950s Alan Turing - machines do what they are told
3:10 second phase - machine learning creating models using data and develop methods to make decisions / predictions based on that data
3:50 third phase - deep learning usually using neural networks to mimic the human brain
4:50 GANs - part of third phase that involve generator and discriminator algorithms
5:55 Obvious’ Portrait of Edmond de Belamy
6:40 Robbie Barrett’s code used by Obvious
8:40 unpredictability in the deep learning phase 
9:25 different tests applied to determine if a machine is intelligent
9:55 Turing test - machine is intelligent if you can’t tell the difference between responses by a human and a machine
10:10 Lovelace test - machine is intelligent if you can’t explain machine’s answer
11:20 ‘Alpha Go’ algorithm
13:30 uses of AI
14:20 huge training data sets
15:50 major risks with AI include copyright
17:10 privacy and data protection
17:20 transparency - deep fake
17:40 bias amplification
18:15 MIT researcher Joy Buolamwini’s work with facial analysis software
19:45 UK’s pro-innovation approach to AI
21:45 text and data mining (TDM) exception only for non-commercial use - proposal to expand to commercial use
24:25 Nov 2022 government decided not to expand TDM exception to commercial use
24:55 UK Pro-innovation Regulation of Technologies Review
26:45 A pro-innovation approach to AI regulation policy paper  - no legislation in the short term, no move to central regulatory body for AI
29:30 AI described in UK white paper as including autonomy and adaptivity
32:25 Global Summit on AI Safety
32:45 EU AI Act with risk—based approach - June 2023 signed off by Parliament; final conclusions expected late 2023; operational circa 2026
36:35 US - AI suits pending
37:00 Robbie Barrett
38:00 opt in versus opt out policy
39:20 Senate testimony regarding UK’s AI advances
40:15 US Task Force on AI Policy proposed; Privacy Consumer Protection Framework
40:45 Getty v. Stability AI suits in US and UK
41:25 2024 elections and AI
44:00 Alan Robertshaw’s case with Getty
47:05 Gould: AI voice scam
48:00 Robertshaw: AI uses
50:20 AI medical screening
53:00 consciousness
56:00 Artist Sofia Crespo’s work with natural history
56:30 Lines and Bones by artist Iskra Velitchkova
56:50 Dawn Chorus Alexandra Daisy Ginsberg
57:30 projection for how artists in the UK will address AI issues 






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© Stephanie Drawdy [2023]