63 episodes

Best friends and co-authors of seven novels, including the Amazon Charts bestselling book, The Good Widow, Liz Fenton & Lisa Steinke use biting humor to share lessons they’ve learned during their thirty-year friendship. They talk about their ups—and especially their downs. Including sharing the brutal truth about the rejection they’ve faced in the publishing industry.

Listen in and hear for yourself why Liz and Lisa have also cultivated a passionate following on social media. They tell it like it is. They laugh—or in Liz’s case, snort—at themselves. They aren’t afraid to expose their own flaws and failures as they navigate being business partners and friends while juggling motherhood, their families and other friendships.

In a nutshell: They fight so you don’t have to.

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    • 4.9 • 44 Ratings

Best friends and co-authors of seven novels, including the Amazon Charts bestselling book, The Good Widow, Liz Fenton & Lisa Steinke use biting humor to share lessons they’ve learned during their thirty-year friendship. They talk about their ups—and especially their downs. Including sharing the brutal truth about the rejection they’ve faced in the publishing industry.

Listen in and hear for yourself why Liz and Lisa have also cultivated a passionate following on social media. They tell it like it is. They laugh—or in Liz’s case, snort—at themselves. They aren’t afraid to expose their own flaws and failures as they navigate being business partners and friends while juggling motherhood, their families and other friendships.

In a nutshell: They fight so you don’t have to.

    Episode 63| We Fight So You Don't Have To: At Bouchercon

    Episode 63| We Fight So You Don't Have To: At Bouchercon

    What happens when a blue moon and a mystery book convention collide? Liz and Lisa have a fight! Listen in as they discuss how an author friend got stuck in the middle of one of their squabbles and why their memoir will be titled, Wednesdays at 2:00 p.m.

    Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.

    • 35 min
    Episode 62| WTF Is This Book About? The Husband by Maud Ventura

    Episode 62| WTF Is This Book About? The Husband by Maud Ventura

    Liz & Lisa continue with the WTF book club. This episode they are discussing MY HUSBAND by Maud Ventura. It's an immersive read with so many layers and a hell of an ending! Also-listen to find out why audio might be your best bet.

    Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.

    • 23 min
    Episode 61| We Went to Italy Again: Part 2

    Episode 61| We Went to Italy Again: Part 2

    Liz & Lisa finish telling the tale of their Tuscan adventures. Did they make it through the trip without fighting? Did they drink ALL the wine in Italy? Did the teens break anything in the villa? You'll have to listen to find out.

    Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.

    • 50 min
    Episode 60| When Your First Child Goes To College

    Episode 60| When Your First Child Goes To College

    Liz’s firstborn daughter is off to college at WSU. (Go Cougs!) Liz and Lisa talk about the highs and lows of moving your child out of the house and into their dorm. Liz shares the tips and tricks she learned along the way. And maybe how some secret tears were shed courtesy of a Counting Crows song? You'll have to listen to understand.

    Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.

    • 42 min
    Episode 59| We Went to Italy Again: Part 1

    Episode 59| We Went to Italy Again: Part 1

    Liz & Lisa and their families spent most of June in Italy--and OF COURSE there are stories! Lisa hosted her entire family (and Liz's) in a secluded Tuscan villa and Liz has five teens in tow. Listen in for all the tea behind those instagram stories.

    A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.

    • 35 min
    Episode 58| The Struggle Bus with Vanessa Lillie

    Episode 58| The Struggle Bus with Vanessa Lillie

    Liz and Lisa welcome Vanessa Lillie aboard the struggle bus to talk about second chances in publishing. Vanessa reveals her scariest moment, what she did to connect to her soul purpose and shares the Hail Mary that kept her in the publishing game. Whether you’re an aspiring author or have already been published, this is a must-listen because of all the invaluable advice Vanessa shares.
    Have a comment?

    A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.

    • 42 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
44 Ratings

44 Ratings

JesWa77 ,

Great podcast for writers!

Love it

Jito555 ,

Happiness is this podcast!

Always a great listen! Love Liz and Lisa’s banter, topics, sense of humor and raw honesty. You know a podcast is good when the time flies by and you’re left wanting more. Thank you L&L!!

slfkekdoeofn ,

Love the new book club premise

Still such a good listen! Adore their friend chemistry. Both Lisa and Liz sound like actual adult women YOU would be friends with. I always find myself making the time to listen

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