33 min

What can be male, straight, white or purple? It’s not a riddle….. it’s allyship‪.‬ The Aperture

    • Society & Culture

Episode 2

Steph Cutler & Leyla Okhai discuss how systems create advantage and how you can check your privilege and be a genuine ally. Annie Rockson provides her creative take on it.

Podcast transcript

Quotes and timings

2.34  Black Lives Matter is actually 600 years old.



5.34 “Within British South Asian communities we’ve also got a hell of a long way to go on this”



8.50 “We don’t want to be indoctrinated into this woke way of thinking”



10.09 There’s a difference between being an ally and being a savior.



13.36 WE don’t need to ask those private questions.



15.00 When does genuine allyship work well?



15.20 Is it ok for white footballers to ‘take the knee?



20.32 You can’t talk about allyship without talking about power and privilege.



23.30 Your four times more likely to get a job with a white sounding name.



30.52 Annie’s poem.



Resources

- Me & White Supremacy: How to Recognise Your Privilege, Combat Racism & Change  by Layla Saad

- Why I’m No Longer Talking to White People About Race by Reni Eddo-Lodge

- Prospectus connects talented people with non-profit organisations

About the Guests

Leyla Okhai is the founder and Director of Diverse Minds UK Ltd. Diverse Minds creates happy, equal and mentally healthy workplaces through training, coaching, speaking and consultancy. The focus is placed on wellbeing, mental health and by understanding culture and race. Leyla has over seventeen years’ experience in developing and implementing diversity, inclusion and equality practices, with senior leadership teams.

Website: Diverse Minds UK Twitter: @diversemindsuk Facebook: diversemindsuk

Annie Rockson is a poet, author, music editor and podcaster. She currently works as the music editor for Amor Magazine. What drives her as a writer, is shedding a light on the stories of underrepresented groups in order to spark debate to bring about social change.

Latest Poem, twitter: @gyallikeannie, instagram: @gyallikeannie

About the host

Steph Cutler is a speaker, equality and personal development trainer and coach. Her inclusion consultancy, Making Lemonade specialises in disability equality and she is a Clore Social Leadership fellow. She was recognised as one of the 100 most influential disabled people in the UK in 2018 on the Disability Power100 list and has been a judge since.

twitter: @steph_cutler, Linkedin: stephcutler

Huge thanks to vipodcasting for their support and skills in producing this podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider subscribing on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or wherever you access your podcasts from. Please leave a review and be sure to tune in to future episodes for more insights from social changemakers.

Episode 2

Steph Cutler & Leyla Okhai discuss how systems create advantage and how you can check your privilege and be a genuine ally. Annie Rockson provides her creative take on it.

Podcast transcript

Quotes and timings

2.34  Black Lives Matter is actually 600 years old.



5.34 “Within British South Asian communities we’ve also got a hell of a long way to go on this”



8.50 “We don’t want to be indoctrinated into this woke way of thinking”



10.09 There’s a difference between being an ally and being a savior.



13.36 WE don’t need to ask those private questions.



15.00 When does genuine allyship work well?



15.20 Is it ok for white footballers to ‘take the knee?



20.32 You can’t talk about allyship without talking about power and privilege.



23.30 Your four times more likely to get a job with a white sounding name.



30.52 Annie’s poem.



Resources

- Me & White Supremacy: How to Recognise Your Privilege, Combat Racism & Change  by Layla Saad

- Why I’m No Longer Talking to White People About Race by Reni Eddo-Lodge

- Prospectus connects talented people with non-profit organisations

About the Guests

Leyla Okhai is the founder and Director of Diverse Minds UK Ltd. Diverse Minds creates happy, equal and mentally healthy workplaces through training, coaching, speaking and consultancy. The focus is placed on wellbeing, mental health and by understanding culture and race. Leyla has over seventeen years’ experience in developing and implementing diversity, inclusion and equality practices, with senior leadership teams.

Website: Diverse Minds UK Twitter: @diversemindsuk Facebook: diversemindsuk

Annie Rockson is a poet, author, music editor and podcaster. She currently works as the music editor for Amor Magazine. What drives her as a writer, is shedding a light on the stories of underrepresented groups in order to spark debate to bring about social change.

Latest Poem, twitter: @gyallikeannie, instagram: @gyallikeannie

About the host

Steph Cutler is a speaker, equality and personal development trainer and coach. Her inclusion consultancy, Making Lemonade specialises in disability equality and she is a Clore Social Leadership fellow. She was recognised as one of the 100 most influential disabled people in the UK in 2018 on the Disability Power100 list and has been a judge since.

twitter: @steph_cutler, Linkedin: stephcutler

Huge thanks to vipodcasting for their support and skills in producing this podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider subscribing on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or wherever you access your podcasts from. Please leave a review and be sure to tune in to future episodes for more insights from social changemakers.

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