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Welcome to The AI Native Developer, hosted by Guy Podjarny and Simon Maple. Join us as we explore and help shape the future of software development through the lens of AI. In this new paradigm of AI Native Software Development, we delve into how AI is transforming the way we build software, from tools and practices to the very structure of development teams.Our target audience includes developers and development leaders eager to stay ahead of the curve. If you're passionate about the future of software development and curious about how to leverage AI to build effective teams and groundbreaking software, this podcast is for you.Each week, we bring you insights into the latest AI tools and best practices, keeping you up-to-date with the cutting-edge advancements in the industry. Additionally, every two weeks, we present deep dives with experts and leaders in the AI and software development space, offering a glimpse into the future of AI development.Tune in to discover how AI will revolutionize your workflows, roles, and organizations. Get inspired by the latest tools and best practices, and prepare to be part of the next generation of software development.

  1. Revolutionising Spec-Driven Development with Tessl’s Framework & Registry

    HACE 18 H

    Revolutionising Spec-Driven Development with Tessl’s Framework & Registry

    Devs spend more time fixing agent mistakes than shipping features. On this episode of AI Native Dev, Guy Podjarny, founder & CEO at Tessl, and Simon Maple, Head of Developer Relations, announce two new products, the Tessl Framework and the Tessl Spec Registry, built to make specs the source of truth, keeping agents aligned with intent and code dependable. On the docket: • Why agent development needs its own dependency system • Using specs to create tests that validate agent outputs • How Tessl’s 10,000 usage specs prevent agent mistakes with open-source • Into Tessl’s concept of “vibe speccing” • The long term bet on spec-centric software AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI. Tune in as we engage with engineers, founders, and open-source innovators to talk all things AI, security, and development.   Connect with us here: 1. Guy Podjarny- https://www.linkedin.com/in/guypo/ 2. Simon Maple- https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonmaple/ 3. Tessl- https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/  4. AI Native Dev- https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/ai-native-dev/ Join our AI Native Dev Community: https://discord.com/invite/jbb2vHnHZQ?utm_source=footer&utm_medium=tessl+website&utm_campaign=community  Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjhAsk us questions: podcast@tessl.io

    38 min
  2. The Man Behind World’s Largest Dev Con | Stephan & Devoxx

    9 SEP

    The Man Behind World’s Largest Dev Con | Stephan & Devoxx

    Stephan Janssen, the mind behind Devoxx, calls this moment the “renaissance of development” and explains why AI-native workflows are rewriting what’s possible. On the docket:  • how vibe coding cut months of setup and build into days  • why “spec to code” loops beat pure prompting every time  • what juniors gain from a universal AI tutor  • why agents are the big theme for Devoxx Belgium 2025 AI Native Dev, AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI. Tune in as we engage with engineers, founders, and open-source innovators to talk all things AI, security, and development.  Connect with us here: 1. Stephan Janssen - https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephanjanssen/ 2. Simon Maple - https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonmaple/ 3. Tessl- https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/ 4. AI Native Dev- https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/ai-native-dev/ Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjhAsk us questions: podcast@tessl.io

    1 h y 5 min
  3. Is Your Team Ready for AI-Driven Modernization? | Birgitta Böckeler

    2 SEP

    Is Your Team Ready for AI-Driven Modernization? | Birgitta Böckeler

    What does it mean to be a developer when AI writes most of the code? On this episode of AI Native Dev, Birgitta Böckeler, Distinguished Engineer at ThoughtWorks, joins Simon Maple to unpack how AI is changing legacy migrations, and why the real value comes from pairing LLMs with proven software engineering practices. They also get into: • why “AI alone” won’t solve legacy modernization • how codemods and deterministic tools amplify AI creativity • the reflex to rewrite vs. the discipline to refactor • why developers need to evolve into managers of AI-driven workflows AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI. Tune in as we engage with engineers, founders, and open-source innovators to talk about all things AI, security, and development. Connect with us here: 1. Birgitta Böckeler - https://www.linkedin.com/in/birgittaboeckeler/ 2. Simon - https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonmaple/ 3. Tessl- https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/ 4. AI Native Dev- https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/ai-native-dev/ Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjhAsk us questions: podcast@tessl.io

    57 min
  4. Can AI Really Build Enterprise-Grade Software? | Maor Shlomo & Base44

    26 AGO

    Can AI Really Build Enterprise-Grade Software? | Maor Shlomo & Base44

    AI coding is great for demos, but can it handle production apps? On this episode of AI Native Dev, Maor Shlomo, founder of Base44, joins Guy Podjarny to share how he built one of the first “batteries-included” AI app builders and what it reveals about building real software in the age of LLMs. They dive into: • why less complexity helps LLMs perform • how Base44 ships apps with databases and integrations built in • what smaller, high-context teams can do that big ones can’t • the path from vibe coding to agentic applications AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI. Tune in as we engage with engineers, founders, and open-source innovators to talk about all things AI, security, and development. Connect with us here: 1. Maor Shlomo - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maor-shlomo-1088b4144/ 2. Guy Podjarny - https://www.linkedin.com/in/guypo/ 3. Tessl- https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/ 4. AI Native Dev- https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/ai-native-dev/ Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjhAsk us questions: podcast@tessl.io

    56 min
  5. Transforming Dev Practices with Kiro’s Spec-Driven Tools | Nikhil and Richard

    19 AGO

    Transforming Dev Practices with Kiro’s Spec-Driven Tools | Nikhil and Richard

    Rapid prototyping is fun, but maintaining it? Not so much. In this episode, Simon Maple is joined by Nikhil Swaminathan, Head of Product and Richard Threlkeld, Principal Engineer at Kiro IDE (AWS), to discuss how spec-driven development moves the focus from writing code to understanding and communicating system behavior, building software that is easy to understand so that developers can maintain code without losing clarity. They also explore: • Kiro’s philosophy on spec-driven development • why specs must be composable documents • how specs enable better review and reasoning around refactors AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI. Tune in as we engage with engineers, founders, and open-source innovators to talk about all things AI, security, and development. Connect with us here: 1. Richard Threlkeld- https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-threlkeld-ba31aa1/ 2. Nikhil Swaminathan- https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilswaminathan/ 3. Simon Maple- https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonmaple/ 4. Tessl- https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/ 5. AI Native Dev- https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/ai-native-dev/ Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjhAsk us questions: podcast@tessl.io

    1 h y 10 min
  6. Transforming Debugging and Root Cause Detection with Sentry | David Cramer

    12 AGO

    Transforming Debugging and Root Cause Detection with Sentry | David Cramer

    On this episode of AI Native Dev, David Cramer, co-founder of Sentry, joins Guy Podjarny to talk about what it really takes to ship faster with LLMs built into the workflow, and why over 4 million devs rely on Sentry to do it right. On the docket: • how Sentry’s moat is built on deeply interconnected app data • why David prefers Cursor over Claude • how a cynical mindset kills AI adoption before it begins AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI. Tune in as we engage with engineers, founders, and open-source innovators to talk all things AI, security, and development. Connect with us here: 1. David Cramer- https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmcramer/ 2. Guy Podjarny- https://www.linkedin.com/in/guypo/ 3. Tessl- https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/ 4. AI Native Dev- https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/ai-native-dev/ Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjhAsk us questions: podcast@tessl.io

    50 min
  7. Why Tracking AI Usage Drives Better Results | Justin Reock & DX

    5 AGO

    Why Tracking AI Usage Drives Better Results | Justin Reock & DX

    With AI adoption surging across orgs, Justin Reock, CTO at DX, joins Simon Maple to break down the difference between meaningful integration and just chasing trends. They also get into: • two levers of velocity: quality and maintainability. • why measuring real AI impact starts with knowing who’s using it and how • how AI supercharges developer productivity across the SDLC AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI. Tune in as we engage with engineers, founders, and open-source innovators to talk all things AI, security, and development. Curated Resource of the Week: https://ainativedev.co/1ij Connect with us here: 1. Justin Reock- https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinreock/ 2. Simon Maple- https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonmaple/ 3. Tessl- https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/ 4. AI Native Dev- https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/ai-native-dev/ Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjhAsk us questions: podcast@tessl.io

    52 min
  8. What Next Gen AI Infra, Voice and Video Looks Like | Datadog, Eleven Labs and Synthesia

    29 JUL

    What Next Gen AI Infra, Voice and Video Looks Like | Datadog, Eleven Labs and Synthesia

    In this compilation, Olivier Pomel (Datadog), Mati Staniszewski (ElevenLabs), and Victor Riparbelli (Synthesia) join Guy Podjarny to unpack what it takes to build category defining products in the AI native era. On the docket: • why root cause detection felt like sci-fi a few years ago, and what’s changed • the early challenges ElevenLabs faced as an audio first AI company • how Synthesia got Mark Cuban to invest in them AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI. Tune in as we engage with engineers, founders, and open-source innovators to talk all things AI, security, and development. Connect with us here: 1. Olivier Pomel- https://www.linkedin.com/in/olivierpomel/ 2. Mati Staniszewski- https://www.linkedin.com/in/matiii/ 3. Victor Riparbelli- https://www.linkedin.com/in/victorriparbelli/ 4. Guy Podjarny- https://www.linkedin.com/in/guypo/ 5. Tessl- https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/ 6. AI Native Dev- https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/ai-native-dev/ Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjhAsk us questions: podcast@tessl.io

    34 min
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Welcome to The AI Native Developer, hosted by Guy Podjarny and Simon Maple. Join us as we explore and help shape the future of software development through the lens of AI. In this new paradigm of AI Native Software Development, we delve into how AI is transforming the way we build software, from tools and practices to the very structure of development teams.Our target audience includes developers and development leaders eager to stay ahead of the curve. If you're passionate about the future of software development and curious about how to leverage AI to build effective teams and groundbreaking software, this podcast is for you.Each week, we bring you insights into the latest AI tools and best practices, keeping you up-to-date with the cutting-edge advancements in the industry. Additionally, every two weeks, we present deep dives with experts and leaders in the AI and software development space, offering a glimpse into the future of AI development.Tune in to discover how AI will revolutionize your workflows, roles, and organizations. Get inspired by the latest tools and best practices, and prepare to be part of the next generation of software development.

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