When We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything But Jessie Sage
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- Society & Culture
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When We’re Not Hustling is a twice-monthly podcast that explores the lives and identities of sex workers outside our personas. Each episode features a long-form interview with a sex worker, where we talk about everything but work: personal philosophies, ambitions, family, relationships, passions, hobbies, mental and physical health, identity, spirituality, meaning-making, and more.
On this show, we learn who sex workers are outside of the work they are known for. When We’re Not Hustling is an exploration of the people behind the fantasies.
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S1 E19 AP: A Naked Look at What It's Like to be Married to a Sex Worker with Dr. PJ Patella-Rey
In this very special After Party, we discuss what it's like to be a partner to a sex worker with Jessie's life partner, PJ.
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S1 E19: A Naked Look at What It's Like to be Married to a Sex Worker
In this very special epsidoe, host Jessie Sage brings on her life partner, PJ Patella-Rey.
They have a heartfelt conversation about the challenges and dynamics of their relationship.
PJ talks about their history in sex work and experiences in the industry, grappling with trauma, stigma, and the emotional demands of sex work, while also expressing gratitude for the financial stability it offers.
They also share their perspective on navigating the complexities of being in a relationship with a full service sex worker, emphasizing the importance of setting boundaries, understanding each other's challenges, and providing mutual support through life's difficulties.
Guest Recommendations:
Books:
Polywise: A Deeper Dive into Navigating Open Relationships, by Jessica Fern and David Cooley
Music:
Chappell Roan
St Vincent
Janelle Monae
People:
Guest: Dr. PJ Patella-Rey
Host: Jessie Sage
Producer: Emily Foster
Music: Benjamin J Benamati
Sponsor: Assembly Four
You can support our podcast on Patreon:
https://www.patreon.com/sapiotextual
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S1 E18 AP: Direct Action & Changing Careers with Melodie Garcia
Host Jessie Sage talks to producer Emily Foster and friend of the show Melissa Milk about Melodie Garcia's episode. They discuss various aspects of sex work, creativity, career pivots, and the importance of resources for sex workers. The conversation delves into how sex work can lead to creative pursuits and diverse skill sets, highlighting the challenges of stigma and the need for support in transitioning to other careers.
The guests also touch on the significance of redistributing resources and destigmatizing sex work within different communities, emphasizing the value of education, advocacy, and community support.
People:
Guest: Melodie Garcia
Host: Jessie Sage, Melissa Milk, and Emily Foster
Producer: Emily Foster
Music: Benjamin J Benamati
Sponsor: Assembly Four
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S1 E18: Direct Action & Changing Careers at Any Age with Melodie Garcia
This week we talk to Melodie Garcia, the co-director of the New Moon Network, and a public sector consultant specializing in human services program design, grassroots organizational development, and community engagement.
In her consulting practice, she helps government agencies develop trauma-informed programming for low-resourced and over-policed communities including drug users, sex workers, and people living unhoused.
We talk to Melodie about their history as a sex worker, the way that they are working with sex workers to transfer the valuable skills they have to other sectors, philanthropy, marriage, relationships with clients, the Kendreick Lamar and Drake beef, and so much more!
Guest Recommendations:
Books:
White Women Cry & Call Me Angry: A Black Woman's Memoir on Racism in Philanthropology, by Yanique Redwood
The Holy Hour: An Anthology of Sex Work, Magic, and the Divine, edited by Molly Simmons and Emily Marie Passos Duffy
Manufacturing Freedom: Sex Work, Anti-Trafficking Rehab, And the Racial Wages of Rescue, by Elena Shih
Podcasts:
When We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything But
Music:
Sza
People:
Guest: Melodie Garcia (x: @theworld_onfire; Insta: @melodiekk)
Host: Jessie Sage
Producer: Emily Foster
Music: Benjamin J Benamati
Sponsor: Assembly Four
You can support our podcast on Patreon:
https://www.patreon.com/sapiotextual
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S1 E17 AP: When They Say You Can't Sing, Sing Louder! with Body x Blunts
After Party!
Jessie Sage, Melissa Milk, and Emily Foster digest S1 E17: When They Say You Can't Sing, Sing Louder! with Body x Blunts.
We talk about disability, performance, gender, and so much more!
People:
Guest: Body by Blunts
Hosts: Jessie Sage, Melissa Milk, and Emily Foster
Producer: Emily Foster
Music: Benjamin J Benamati
Sponsor: Assembly Four You can support our podcast on
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S1 E17: When They Say You Can't Sing, Sing Louder! with Body by Blunts
This week we talk to BodyxBlunts, a Texas-based sex worker, singer, burlesque, and drag performer!
We talk about their choice to have a double mastectomy, how this impacts their brand, how they got into singing, the successful burlesque trip they run, and so much more!
Guest Recommendations:
Books:
The 5th Season: Every Age Must Come to an End, by N.K. Jemisin
Music:
Meg the Stallion
The Best of Sade
People:
Guest: Body by Blunts
Host: Jessie Sage
Producer: Emily Foster
Music: Benjamin J Benamati
Sponsor: Assembly Four
You can support our podcast on Patreon:
https://www.patreon.com/sapiotextual
Customer Reviews
Thought provoking, insightful, inspired
Oh my gosh! There was a this podcast shaped hole in my life! I was crying during the custom opening song & then Jessie’s (the host) voice makes me understand what ASMR is supposed to be. This podcast is authentic & insightful, entertaining & smart & so so necessary. Right now I’m working on dismantling internalized shame & judgment that has kept me from putting effort into my work & persona & this podcast? Big assist. Huge.
Warmth and Insight
I’m already a fan of Jessie Sage from her writing and guest appearances on other podcasts: an engaging speaker and a deeply thoughtful person. She has the humility to let her guests shine and her perceptive questions lead to wonderful discussions. Listening to Jessie have these kind of in-depth conversations is a great pleasure.