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The New Face of Finance, Where Finance Finds Its Future. Future of Finance has one overriding goal. It is to host meetings (at the moment virtual meetings) that bring together long established members of the financial services industry (banks, brokers, asset managers, insurers, financial market infrastructures) with entrepreneurs (challenger banks, technology companies and FinTechs) and market authorities (central banks, regulators and policymakers) to explore how the financial services industry can grow faster by being more open, more innovative and more trustworthy. If you would like to get in touch about featuring on a podcast, please email wendy.gallagher@futureoffinance.biz
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The New Face of Finance, Where Finance Finds Its Future. Future of Finance has one overriding goal. It is to host meetings (at the moment virtual meetings) that bring together long established members of the financial services industry (banks, brokers, asset managers, insurers, financial market infrastructures) with entrepreneurs (challenger banks, technology companies and FinTechs) and market authorities (central banks, regulators and policymakers) to explore how the financial services industry can grow faster by being more open, more innovative and more trustworthy. If you would like to get in touch about featuring on a podcast, please email wendy.gallagher@futureoffinance.biz
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    Are the commercial opportunities in digital assets compelling enough to overcome the fear of disruption?

    Are the commercial opportunities in digital assets compelling enough to overcome the fear of disruption?

    Part 4/4
    A Future of Finance interview with Gilbert Verdian, CEO of Quant

    Incumbent financial institutions did initially retard progress towards large and liquid digital asset markets, by investing in a discovery process rather than commercial opportunities, but appreciation of the cost savings and the revenue and profit gains available from investing in and trading digital assets is now widespread, as the enthusiasm for spot Bitcoin ETFs showed.
    The criticism that most tokenisations so far have limited benefits because they are asset-backed rather than digitally native under-estimates the value of bundling and unbundling tokenised assets into new instruments and fails to recognise that tokenisation has yet to impact the global bond and equity markets in a significant way at all.
    Asset managers are in a powerful position to drive progress towards tokenisation because they have much to gain from reduced costs of investment and increased diversification of returns, and the downward pressure they are experiencing on ad valorem fees mean they also have strong incentives to push the investment banks to offer them alternatives.
    Policymakers and regulators are also in a powerful position to encourage adoption of tokenised assets by working with the private sector to devise legal and regulatory regimes that encourage the issuance of digital assets and attract institutional investors to purchase them, creating a virtuous circle that catalyses the growth of digital assets everywhere.

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    • 17 min
    How can blockchain-based token networks achieve full inter-operability?

    How can blockchain-based token networks achieve full inter-operability?

    Part 3/4
    A Future of Finance interview with Gilbert Verdian, CEO of Quant

    Inter-operability between blockchain networks, and between blockchain networks and traditional financial markets, is essential to overcome the isolation of digital asset and traditional asset markets and so fuel their liquidity and growth, and the digital finance system must be designed and built from the outset with inter-operability at its core. 
    Proprietary solutions to the inter-operability problem cannot build inter-operability into the new digital finance system from the outset, so institutions in the private and the public sectors must work together to co-design and then co-build standardised infrastructures that enable tokens to be ported seamlessly between networks at the local, regional and global levels. 
    The financial market infrastructures that serve traditional assets at the pre-trade, trade and post-trade levels cannot be replaced overnight but must be integrated into the new digital financial market infrastructures, where they will persist only until the cost of maintaining them exceeds the costs of investing in the more efficient and service-rich digital alternatives.
    A unified ledger, or single programmable platform, of the kind outlined by the Bank for International Settlements (BIS), the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the Regulated Liability Network (RLN), will develop in layers as standardised national and regional platforms are built through private-public collaboration and start to inter-operate on a global scale.

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    • 15 min
    Digital Asset has built the tools to tokenise assets and is now encouraging network effects

    Digital Asset has built the tools to tokenise assets and is now encouraging network effects

    A Future of Finance interview with Yuval Rooz, co-founder and CEO of Digital Asset, and Eric Saraniecki, co-founder and head of strategic initiatives at Digital Asset.
    In October this year, Digital Asset will celebrate the tenth anniversary of its foundation. Under the flamboyant leadership of Blythe Masters, who was CEO from 2015 to 2018, no start-up did more to promote the potential impact of blockchain technology on the capital markets. Over the five years that have passed since she stepped down, Digital Asset has transformed itself from a pioneer of institutional-grade blockchain technology for financial market infrastructures into a provider of tools for building the smart contracts that enable assets to be tokenised, and a sponsor of the public but permissioned Canton Network blockchain network. Above all, it survived unscathed the cancellation of the flagship ASX contract, won in January 2016, to rebuild the post-trade infrastructure of the Australian stock exchange. Though the current strategy can be portrayed as a pivot away from the grand visions of 2016, the company has remained remarkably consistent in its (eponymous) belief that one day all assets will be digital, and that blockchain will provide a secure technological foundation for a network of networks that will encompass tokenised securities, funds, private equity, real estate, privately managed assets, commodities, rights and royalties, and collectibles. Dominic Hobson, co-founder of Future of Finance, spoke to Yuval Rooz, co-founder and CEO of Digital Asset, and Eric Saraniecki, co-founder and head of strategic initiatives at Digital Asset, about the history of the company, its products, the use-cases it has found and exploited, the thinking and the strategy behind the Canton Network, and the challenges the digital asset industry has still to overcome.

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    What can be done now to overcome the absence of digital money on blockchain networks?

    What can be done now to overcome the absence of digital money on blockchain networks?

    Part 2/2
    A Future of Finance interview with Gilbert Verdian, CEO of Quant

    Settlement of digital assets without fiat currency being available on blockchain networks is problematic, and central bank digital currencies (CBDCs) remain a distant prospect, but commercial banks are increasingly excited by the efficiency savings and service enhancements made possible by the programmability of digital money, including tokenised deposits.Claims that money is already digital ignore the fact that payments require push-and-pull exchanges of data to complete transactions, whereas truly digital forms of money enable the sequence of actions that complete a transaction, such as financial crime checks and the availability of money in an account, to be programmed into the digital money itself.Cryptocurrency will continue to exist as a speculative investment, though institutional investors will favour regulated cryptocurrencies and cryptocurrency investment vehicles such as the spot Bitcoin Exchange Traded Funds recently authorised in the United States, and the regulated variety of cryptocurrencies can be expected to drive out the unregulated varieties.
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    • 13 min
    What can governments do to encourage the growth of digital asset markets?

    What can governments do to encourage the growth of digital asset markets?

    Part 1/1
    A Future of Finance interview with Gilbert Verdian, CEO of Quant

    The time in which regulators observed rather than intervened in digital asset markets is now over, and regulators are starting to work with the private sector to design effective regulations that match the pace of technological development, but progress would be much faster if a single regulator was given responsibility for digital finance.
    The reliance of traditional finance on national forms of regulation is ill-suited to the genuinely global and highly mobile digital asset markets, as the constant migration of cryptocurrency exchanges in search of accommodating jurisdictions proved, so a major jurisdiction needs to establish a minimum standard all jurisdictions can support. 
    The principal benefit of regulatory sandboxes is not to produce Unicorns or drive the reform of existing regulations but to prove that existing regulations are adequate to the task of regulating digital assets, which is of greater value to institutions that are regulated already than to new market entrants whose businesses test existing regulations. 
    Experience has shown that existing frameworks of law are adaptable to novel conceptions of property such as natively digital assets, but at this nascent stage in the development of the digital asset markets, the flexibility of the law is less important than a clear line between what is acceptable within the law already and what must await the further evolution of the law.
    Governments can influence the rate of growth of the digital asset markets directly by encouraging equity investment in smaller companies and issuing government bonds in tokenised form, which would have knock-on effects in encouraging atomic settlement using tokenised central or commercial bank money as the cash leg of the transaction.
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    • 20 min
    Tokenbridge believes the funds industry will tokenise from the periphery not the centre

    Tokenbridge believes the funds industry will tokenise from the periphery not the centre

    A Future of Finance interview with Stephen Ashurst, CEO of Tokenbridge.
    Tokenbridge is a software company which has embraced a tokenised future for the mutual funds industry. Its founders, all of which have long experience of the traditional funds industry, believe tokenisation can make funds cheaper to issue and service but – unlike most blockchain-based start-ups in the industry - their vision has less to do with cutting the costs of production and operation and more to do with widening distribution. The blockchain-based system Tokenbridge has built offers issuers of funds (fund managers) and distributors of funds (wealth managers) the software tools to make tokenised funds easier to find, compare and buy through a single app (aggregation) and in forms and combinations that better suit the needs of the investor (personalisation). The company strategy is based on the conviction that using digital technology to transform how funds are distributed is not a nice-to-have. The Boomers that dominate fund ownership today are yielding to a post-Internet generation that expects investment advice, and fund purchase and sales processes and reporting, to be digitised. Delivering this, especially to portfolios of modest value, cannot be done without transformative technology. Yet fund managers and distributors that fail to use technology deliver a full and compelling digital experience, warns Tokenbridge, will enjoy a smaller share of a global marketplace that tokenisation will enlarge massively. Dominic Hobson, co-founder of Future of Finance, spoke to Stephen Ashurst, CEO of Tokenbridge, about how to apply the experience of the past to building a bridge to the future that does not require a revolution today.

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