Who We Are & What We Need Catherine Quiring

In this episode of 'Who We Are and What We Need,' host Catherine Quiring, a licensed mental health counselor, continues her insightful conversation with guest Katie Couvillon, a licensed mental health counselor and board certified coach. They delve into understanding emotions, particularly anger, through the lens of Jungian analysis. The discussion emphasizes integrating one's shadow side, maintaining dignity and connection in relationships, and the balance between individual autonomy and collective care. They also explore the suppression of feminine energy, societal impact on gender roles, and the need for a rise of feminine qualities. Throughout, the conversation advocates for self-trust, emotional intelligence, and creating space for all parts of oneself to facilitate personal and collective healing. 

Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to the Podcast 
01:00 Continuing the Conversation with Katie Couvillon 
02:51 Understanding Yin and Yang 
03:42 Boundaries and Connection 
04:59 Reclaiming Feminine Energy 
05:24 The Witch Archetype and Spirituality 
07:46 Jungian Psychology and Shadow Work 
10:13 The Role of Anger in Healing 
27:47 Practical Steps for Embracing Anger 
31:53 Navigating Deep Work and Friendships 
32:22 The Importance of Uncomfortable Conversations 
33:01 Managing Anger and Resentment 
35:45 Reclaiming the Feminine and Inner Life 
36:27 Embracing Full Self-Expression 
43:52 Navigating Global and Personal Pain 
49:46 The Role of Spirituality and Self-Care 
56:28 Therapy, Coaching, and Self-Trust 
01:01:02 Conclusion and Contact Information 

You can find Katie Couvillon at: ⁠www.journeysober.com⁠ and ⁠www.thejourneyinward.coach⁠

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Join host Catherine Quiring, a licensed mental health counselor, and her guest Katie Couvillon, a licensed mental health counselor and board-certified coach, as they delve into the importance of honoring personal needs and fostering a needs-based society. The discussion explores self-trust, spiritual awareness, and the complex dynamics of addiction and recovery. They touch on inner healing, the significance of feminine energy, and the societal suppression of emotions like anger and rage. The conversation advocates for a balanced, collaborative approach to collective healing, stressing the reclamation of individual and communal dignity.

Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to the Podcast 
01:08 Meet Katie Couvillon 
02:14 Katie's Coaching Services 
03:24 Exploring Sobriety and Recovery 
06:45 Understanding Addictive Behaviors 
09:36 Navigating Personal Needs and Self-Soothing 
10:53 Facing Societal Expectations and Personal Advocacy 
19:26 Feminine Rage and Societal Norms 
25:14 The Importance of Anger and Grief 
28:34 Exploring Inner Life and Agency 
30:04 Activism and External Locus of Control 
32:31 Materialism and Human Nature 
34:35 Masculine and Feminine Energies 
38:27 Social Hierarchies and Dignity 
39:36 Neurodivergence and Social Norms 
50:25 Healing and Integration 
52:38 Conclusion and Reflection 

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In this episode of 'Who We Are and What We Need,' licensed mental health counselor Catherine Quiring hosts an insightful conversation about human nature, relationships, and meeting needs. Joined by licensed marriage and family therapist Paige Bond, who specializes in helping people-pleasers navigate non-momogamy. They discuss a range of topics including differentiation, emotional safety, polyamory, and the importance of understanding and expressing personal needs within relationships. They delve into the complexities of human connections, emphasizing the need for emotional corrective experiences, vulnerability, and creating a secure partnership. Throughout the discussion, they highlight practical strategies for nurturing relationships and navigating challenges, making it an enlightening listen for anyone interested in deepening their understanding of love and connection. 



Chapters:

00:00 Introduction to the Podcast 

00:54 Meet Paige Bond 

01:58 Paige's Journey with Relationships 

04:01 Understanding Love and Relationships 

11:41 The Concept of Differentiation 

16:20 Challenges in Relationships 

24:40 Polyamory and Relationship Dynamics 

28:52 Challenges in Monogamous Relationships 

29:27 The Benefits of Non-Monogamy 

30:17 Historical Context of Non-Monogamy 

30:52 Patriarchy and Relationship Structures 

34:11 Personal Experiences with Non-Monogamy 

37:22 Exploring Sexuality and Identity 

39:03 The Importance of Communication and Boundaries 

49:17 Navigating Family Dynamics in Non-Monogamy 

54:00 Final Thoughts and Resources 



You can find Paige Bond at: ⁠www.paigebond.com

And her podcast Stubborn love here: www.paigebond.com/stubbornlovepodcast

My guest episodes on Stubborn Love are published 6/2023:

www.paigebond.com/stubbornlovepodcast/embrace-desires-rekindle-relationships and 1/2023: https://open.spotify.com/episode/2J7O5pqPcAJ5SqSNKu4hc4



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My guest, Atiq Shomar, LCSW (they/them) is an antiracist, feminist therapist who identifies as part of the 2SLGBTQIA+ community. Atiq and I met in Maegan Megginson's business coaching group. I also participated in Atiq's anti-oppressive therapist course. It led to such a deeper, and more comprehensive, understanding of systemic oppression for me, and I value Atiq's insights so much. Such as their gentle reminder at the beginning of the episode to introduce them (and others) using their pronouns.

In this podcast episode, Atiq shares their insights into who we are and what we need. We discuss the essentials of fostering self-trust, understanding human nature, and the importance of historical context in therapy. The conversation highlights the impact of hierarchical systems, the role of social media in connection, the complexities of family
dynamics, and the necessity of connection in overcoming isolation. Catherine and Atiq also touch on decolonizing therapy and the challenges of practicing within current systems, including mental health, concluding with recommendations for transformative readings.

Decolonizing Therapy by Jennifer Mullan

Decolonizing Trauma Work by Renee Linklater

My Grandmother's Hands by Resmaa Menakem



You can find out more about Atiq Shomar and their work here: https://www.liberationcounseling.com/atiq-shomar.



Chapters:

00:00 Introduction to the Podcast

00:55 Guest Introduction: Atiq Shomar

01:26 Discussing Anti-Oppression and Historical Frameworks

03:25 The Importance of Land Acknowledgment

05:23 Connection and Disconnection in Modern Society

13:24 Therapeutic Approaches and Listening Differently

25:51 Challenges in Therapy and Cultural Considerations

29:25 Closing Thoughts and Future Discussions



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Andrew Lang and I discuss spiritual practices that bring self-knowing, build on self-trust, and lead to connection and embodiment.



Some of the related topics we cover include:


alexithymia
interoception
neurodivergence
paradigms of our society forming a constricting box:
dualism
neopatriarchy
white supremacy
capitalism
demands that we fit in certain ways - mechanisms to shut us down, tame us, quiet us, shame us, marginalize us
C-PTSD from societal norms and restrictions, conditioned reactions, survival responses
problem > solution > sales funnel to tell more people
spirituality as deep connection > god language fell away
re-humanizing
anger in pursuit of justice being responded to with anger in pursuit of control and order, and becomes a cycle
discernment -what is our move to make? just like we have different gifts, we may have different responses to the fight-and-annihilate energy so present in our world and news cycles
posture of sit up, lean in
capacity for discomfort
building capacity
coming alive
I can handle it - I’m not alone, I can trust myself, I have agency and a voice, it’s a challenge, it's not insurmountable, cycle of harm and repair, tolerance of others’ emotional responses to us
the right-sizing practice
keep us connected to safety, belonging, dignity; also: self, others, land, history, community

culture around sexual assault - how do we approach that?


one way is through inner work with men to address these types of questions and constraints...


a vision for my life that didn’t work out
what do I do? can’t cry, can’t express anger
grief around a dream that didn’t happen
I don’t know what to do with this feeling of pent-up energy
don’t know who to talk to
Cole Arthur Riley - can’t live on self-care and self-love alone - who will hold you?
response to feminine movement  - how do we hold our identities lightly?
work and identity

Carl Jung and Shadow work in spiritual practices:


look for where the defensiveness is - you’ve hit a shadow
what’s becoming possible
another shadow/fear - disorder
success, comfort, identity, security
how do we build consent and autonomy?



You can learn more about Andrew and connect with him at andrewglang.com



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I want you to know that self-trust is possible. That knowing your inherent worth is possible. That self-love and enjoying your own company is possible. You can recover from people-pleasing. You can enjoy a life of self-trust.



I appreciate my friend Rosie sharing her story of developing self-trust and self-acceptance in this episode. I hope it inspires you and brings you hope.