116 episodes

The only podcast in the world dedicated to the future asset class called Space-as-a-Service (SPaaS).

Welcome to the #WorkBold podcast (downloaded in 90+ countries) where Caleb Parker, Founder of Bold, chats with innovators challenging the status quo to create a better world.

We learn from executives creating the future of commercial real estate.

Did you know that Space-as-a-Service (SPaaS) only represents 6-10% of the overall CRE market today, but is predicted to grow to 30% over the next decade? That level of growth will change CRE forever.

If you’re an asset manager, fund manager, property manager, landlord, property entrepreneur or investor, real estate agent or in corporate real estate...if you’re involved in commercial real estate in any way, SPaaS will affect you. So you need to be listening to this podcast!

#WorkBold Podcast Caleb Parker

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    • 5.0 • 30 Ratings

The only podcast in the world dedicated to the future asset class called Space-as-a-Service (SPaaS).

Welcome to the #WorkBold podcast (downloaded in 90+ countries) where Caleb Parker, Founder of Bold, chats with innovators challenging the status quo to create a better world.

We learn from executives creating the future of commercial real estate.

Did you know that Space-as-a-Service (SPaaS) only represents 6-10% of the overall CRE market today, but is predicted to grow to 30% over the next decade? That level of growth will change CRE forever.

If you’re an asset manager, fund manager, property manager, landlord, property entrepreneur or investor, real estate agent or in corporate real estate...if you’re involved in commercial real estate in any way, SPaaS will affect you. So you need to be listening to this podcast!

    Is The Office of the Future a Network of Locations?

    Is The Office of the Future a Network of Locations?

    In this episode of #WorkBold, your host Caleb Parker, talks to Chris Boultwood Head of Technology for Workspace Group PLC, to delve into the intricacies of workspace management to meet customer expectations in today's fast-evolving market.
     
    The two explore a range of topics including:
    Adapting to changing customer needs for flexibility The strategic control of coffee experiences within workspaces impact of ubiquitous connectivity Tech’s role when acquiring buildings simplifying wifi access The role mobile apps play to enhance the customer experience Improving sustainability and energy efficiency The next most important technology on the horizon  
    Chris Boultwood: LinkedIn | Website
    Chris Boultwood has been with Workspace Group PLC for over 7 years, where he heads up all things technology - covering customer, corporate and building technology strategies. His in-house teams look after Systems Innovation, Operations, Digital Infrastructure and Customer Connectivity.
    Before joining Workspace, Chris spent over a decade at Virgin Media, where he gained extensive experience in the telecommunications and digital services sectors, working across both B2C and B2B commercial opportunities.
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    Sponsors:
    Headlines sponsor
    Freshwave: Website | LinkedIn
    Freshwave is the connectivity infrastructure-as-a-service provider bringing MNOs, government, and real estate providers to work together in new ways. From stadiums and hospitals to skyscrapers and shopping centres, we provide mobile, 5G and Wi-Fi connectivity infrastructure all over the UK and Europe.
     
    Fortune Favours the Bold: Website | LinkedIn
    Bold is a coworking brand owned and operated by NewFlex.
     
    Future Proof Your Portfolio with NewFlex: Website | LinkedIn
    NewFlex delivers and manages a range of branded solutions for every type of building, in every type of location, for every type of occupier. Including the flexibility to develop your own brand. All enabled by flexible management contracts where we are invested in making money for you.
     
    Brave Corporation: Website | LinkedIn
    The next generation real estate company driving value through strategic asset repositioning to de-risk assets and increase NOI. 
     
    Launch Your Own Podcast: Website | LinkedIn
    ShoRunner is the leading podcast production and strategic content company for brands, organisations, institutions, individuals, and entrepreneurs. Our team sets you up with the right strategy, equipment, training, guidance and content to ensure you sound amazing while speaking to your niche audience and networking with your perfect clients. Get in touch jason@shorunner.com

    • 27 min
    What Do Today’s Customers Expect from a Dynamic Office?

    What Do Today’s Customers Expect from a Dynamic Office?

    In this episode of #WorkBold, your host Caleb Parker, talks to John Gravett, Managing Director at Cluttons LLP, discussing the evolving landscape of UK real estate. They cover a breadth of topics including the shift towards agile and dynamic office spaces, the challenges of repurposing existing buildings to meet modern standards, and the importance of sustainability in real estate.
    The conversation delves into the critical role of connectivity for modern work environments, highlighting the need for better infrastructure to support seamless mobile and internet access within office buildings. They also explore the concept of Space-as-a-Service and how companies are adapting their workplace strategies to meet the changing expectations of employees. The discussion underscores the potential of investing in building infrastructure as a significant opportunity in the real estate industry.
    Takeaways
    Shift Towards Flexibility and Agility in Real Estate: Companies are increasingly seeking smaller, more dynamic, and agile spaces to meet the evolving needs of their workforce. This includes a move away from traditional office setups towards environments that foster collaboration and innovation.
    Importance of Connectivity and Technology: There's a growing emphasis on the necessity of high-quality connectivity within office spaces. John highlighted that connectivity should be considered as foundational as the physical amenities in a building, impacting everything from operational efficiency to employee satisfaction.
    Sustainability and Repurposing of Spaces: The discussion underscored the urgency of investing in sustainability and the repurposing of existing buildings. There's a clear trend of companies preferring to occupy spaces that are not only environmentally friendly but also align with their corporate social responsibility goals.
    The Changing Nature of Office Demand: The conversation delved into how the demand for office space is becoming more nuanced, with a blend of traditional leases and Space-as-a-Service offerings. This reflects a broader industry trend towards providing more flexible, user-centric solutions.
    Barriers to Adoption and Industry Challenges: Despite the clear benefits, there are still significant barriers to the widespread adoption of these trends, including the costs of repurposing spaces and the traditional nature of the real estate industry. There's a need for more education and a shift in mindset to overcome these challenges.
     
    John Gravett: LinkedIn | Website
    John focuses on providing strategic advice to TMT portfolios and specialised advice in telecoms strategy, network roll-out and estate management. He is a highly skilled international real estate manager with extensive experience in the development and implementation of real estate solutions at both local and international level. He has a proven track record in the international property market with an applied knowledge of commercial practice and cultural awareness.
     
    Don't forget to hit that  subscribe button so you get each episode as it comes out.
     
    Sponsors:
    Headline Sponsor | Freshwave: Website | LinkedIn
    Freshwave is the connectivity infrastructure-as-a-service provider bringing MNOs, government, and real estate providers to work together in new ways. From stadiums and hospitals to skyscrapers and shopping centres, we provide mobile, 5G and Wi-Fi connectivity infrastructure all over the UK and Europe.
    Fortune Favours the Bold: Website | LinkedIn
    Bold is a coworking brand owned and operated by NewFlex.
    Future Proof Your Portfolio with NewFlex: Website | LinkedIn
    NewFlex delivers and manages a range of branded solutions for every type of building, in every type of location, for every type of occupier. Including the flexibility to develop your own brand. All enabled by flexible management contracts where we are invested in making money for you.
    Brave Corporation: Website | LinkedIn
    The next generation real estate c

    • 22 min
    Why Are Landlords Finally Adopting Flex In Their Portfolios?

    Why Are Landlords Finally Adopting Flex In Their Portfolios?

    In this episode of #WorkBold, your host Caleb Parker, talks to Jonny Rosenblatt co-founder of SpaceMade, who shares his journey in the flexible workspace industry and the shift in landlords' perception of flex space. He discusses the benefits of partnering with flex operators and the importance of delivering a hospitality-driven experience. Rosenblatt emphasizes the need for customization and brand differentiation in the flex market, as well as the potential for sector-specific spaces. He also highlights the challenges of building a sophisticated infrastructure and the importance of marketing and community curation in the industry.
    TAKEAWAYS
    Landlords are recognizing the need to partner with flex operators to deliver a hospitality-driven experience and drive the quality of their buildings.
    Flex space allows landlords to offer additional amenities and services to traditional tenants, enhancing the overall leasing proposition.
    Every office asset should have some level of flex and hospitality-driven space, but it may not work in every building or market.
    Brand differentiation and customization are crucial in the growing flex market, allowing operators to attract a diverse range of customers.
    The future of flex space may involve more sector-specific spaces that cater to specific industries and create a unique community..
     
    Jonny Rosenblatt: LinkedIn | Website
    With over a decade of commercial real estate experience, Jonny has been at the forefront of the shift towards flexibility, hospitality, and community creation in the office market. Having launched Headspace Group in 2012 before successfully exiting in 2017, he has unrivalled experience designing, building and operating new platforms in the flexible real estate space.
     
    Don't forget to hit that  subscribe button so you get each episode as it comes out.
     
    Sponsors:
    Headline Sponsor | Freshwave: Website | LinkedIn
    Freshwave is the connectivity infrastructure-as-a-service provider bringing MNOs, government, and real estate providers to work together in new ways. From stadiums and hospitals to skyscrapers and shopping centres, we provide mobile, 5G and Wi-Fi connectivity infrastructure all over the UK and Europe.
    Fortune Favours the Bold: Website | LinkedIn
    Bold is a coworking brand owned and operated by NewFlex.
    Future Proof Your Portfolio with NewFlex: Website | LinkedIn
    NewFlex delivers and manages a range of branded solutions for every type of building, in every type of location, for every type of occupier. Including the flexibility to develop your own brand. All enabled by flexible management contracts where we are invested in making money for you.
    Brave Corporation: Website | LinkedIn
    The next generation real estate company driving value through strategic asset repositioning to de-risk assets and increase NOI. 
    Launch Your Own Podcast: Website | LinkedIn
    ShoRunner is the leading podcast production and strategic content company for brands, organisations, institutions, individuals, and entrepreneurs. Our team sets you up with the right strategy, equipment, training, guidance and content to ensure you sound amazing while speaking to your niche audience and networking with your perfect clients. Get in touch jason@shorunner.com
     

    • 37 min
    PropCo-OpCo: Why HNK Moved "The Office" From Product to Service

    PropCo-OpCo: Why HNK Moved "The Office" From Product to Service

    In this episode of #WorkBold, your host Caleb Parker, talks to Robert Sparreboom. They delve into the transformation of real estate operations in response to changing market demands, specifically focusing on the impact of flexibility and space as a service. Robert shares insights from his company's journey, influenced by Anthony Slumbers, towards rethinking their business model as a real estate investor and operator. They discuss the transition from using their flex operation, HNK as a vacancy solution to viewing it as a major asset for client solutions, underpinned by sustainability and customer-centricity. The conversation covers the challenges and benefits of being a listed company operating in the flex space, strategic rebranding, and the evolving landscape of property valuation in the face of increased demand for flexible, service-driven real estate offerings.
     
    Robert Sparreboom: LinkedIn | Website
    Robert Sparreboom is Head of HNK, a flexible workspace provider in the Netherlands, part of NSI, a listed RE Investor located in Amsterdam. Having a broad experience in the Real Estate Sector he found his calling in the area where Real Estate, interior design, innovation and hospitality come together,  creating spaces that make the world a bit more beautiful every day. Robert has been responsible for the rebranding and repositioning of the HNK brand, its operations and business development currently rolling out the new brand to existing and new locations. In his personal life he's a Husband and father of two daughters, loves sports, history, tech and DIY.  

    Don't forget to hit that subscribe button so you get each episode as it comes out.
     
    Sponsors:
    Headline Sponsor | Freshwave: Website | LinkedIn
    Freshwave is the connectivity infrastructure-as-a-service provider bringing MNOs, government, and real estate providers to work together in new ways. From stadiums and hospitals to skyscrapers and shopping centres, we provide mobile, 5G and Wi-Fi connectivity infrastructure all over the UK and Europe.
    Fortune Favours the Bold: Website | LinkedIn
    Bold is a coworking brand owned and operated by NewFlex.
    Future Proof Your Portfolio with NewFlex: Website | LinkedIn
    NewFlex delivers and manages a range of branded solutions for every type of building, in every type of location, for every type of occupier. Including the flexibility to develop your own brand. All enabled by flexible management contracts where we are invested in making money for you.
    Brave Corporation: Website | LinkedIn
    The next generation real estate company driving value through strategic asset repositioning to de-risk assets and increase NOI. 
    Launch Your Own Podcast: Website | LinkedIn
    ShoRunner is the leading podcast production and strategic content company for brands, organisations, institutions, individuals, and entrepreneurs. Our team sets you up with the right strategy, equipment, training, guidance and content to ensure you sound amazing while speaking to your niche audience and networking with your perfect clients. Get in touch jason@shorunner.com
     

    • 23 min
    What makes a building smart, and why do customers care?

    What makes a building smart, and why do customers care?

    In this episode of #WorkBold, your host Caleb Parker, talks to Sanjaya Ranasinghe Global Director of R&D at WiredScore. They discuss the company's journey and the evolving importance of digital connectivity in real estate. Celebrating its 10th anniversary, WiredScore has expanded worldwide, certifying buildings across 35 countries to ensure top-notch digital connectivity. The conversation delves into how landlords and tenants' perspectives on internet connectivity have shifted, highlighting how WiredScore's certifications - WiredScore and SmartScore - aid in enhancing the digital and smart technology infrastructure of buildings. They reflect on the changing landscape of office real estate, emphasising user experience and the role of technology in meeting environmental, social, and governance (ESG) goals. The episode also addresses the challenge of retrofitting buildings to meet current standards, the impact of connectivity on occupancy rates and rents, and the potential of technology to transform real estate into responsive, user-focused environments.

     
    Sanjaya Ranasinghe: LinkedIn | Website
    As leader of the R&D team at WiredScore, Sanjaya develops, implements, and reviews the criteria of WiredScore's scorecards, assessing best-in-class Internet connectivity in commercial buildings.


    Don't forget to hit that subscribe button so you get each episode as it comes out.
     
    Sponsors:
    Headline Sponsor | Freshwave: Website | LinkedIn
    Freshwave is the connectivity infrastructure-as-a-service provider bringing MNOs, government, and real estate providers to work together in new ways. From stadiums and hospitals to skyscrapers and shopping centres, we provide mobile, 5G and Wi-Fi connectivity infrastructure all over the UK and Europe.
    Fortune Favours the Bold: Website | LinkedIn
    Bold is a coworking brand owned and operated by NewFlex.
    Future Proof Your Portfolio with NewFlex: Website | LinkedIn
    NewFlex delivers and manages a range of branded solutions for every type of building, in every type of location, for every type of occupier. Including the flexibility to develop your own brand. All enabled by flexible management contracts where we are invested in making money for you.
    Brave Corporation: Website | LinkedIn
    The next generation real estate company driving value through strategic asset repositioning to de-risk assets and increase NOI. 
    Launch Your Own Podcast: Website | LinkedIn
    ShoRunner is the leading podcast production and strategic content company for brands, organisations, institutions, individuals, and entrepreneurs. Our team sets you up with the right strategy, equipment, training, guidance and content to ensure you sound amazing while speaking to your niche audience and networking with your perfect clients. Get in touch jason@shorunner.com
     

    • 30 min
    When A 6 CAP Is No Longer A 6 CAP - Only The Paranoid (Office Investors) Survive

    When A 6 CAP Is No Longer A 6 CAP - Only The Paranoid (Office Investors) Survive

    In this episode of #WorkBold, your host Caleb Parker, talks to Michael Kovacs from Castleforge to discuss the transformation in office space investments towards flexible workspace solutions. Castleforge, traditionally a real estate investor and developer, has pivoted towards investing heavily in 'Flex' space, creating their operator known as Clockwise. Mike delves into the decision to start their own flex space operation, initially tested in Glasgow, which resulted in a highly successful full building conversion to Flex, achieving over 90% occupancy and significantly higher desk rates than anticipated. The success at Glasgow prompted Castleforge to scale the model across their portfolio and purchase assets with an underwriting for flex space from the outset. The discussion also touches on the broader challenges office investors face in generating consistent cash flows and the potential for Flex space to offer a more reliable income stream. Mike further discusses a white paper released by Castleforge, arguing that traditional valuation models for office space are outdated and that Flex spaces, despite their discounted valuation, may offer a closer match to their economic value, thus presenting a compelling investment proposition. The episode concludes with considerations on the future of office space valuations and the evolution of investor models towards accommodating the growing demand for Flex spaces.

    Castleforge White Paper: Only the Paranoid (Office Investors) Survive
     
    Michael Kovacs: LinkedIn | Website
    Prior to founding Castleforge in 2010, Michael worked at Westbrook Partners in London, where he was involved in transactions representing over £2bn of asset value for Westbrook's various funds in the UK, Europe and Asia across a diverse range of real estate investment types. Prior to Westbrook Partners, Michael worked at the Blackstone Group in New York.


    Don't forget to hit that subscribe button so you get each episode as it comes out.
     
    Sponsors:
    Headline Sponsor | Freshwave: Website | LinkedIn
    Freshwave is the connectivity infrastructure-as-a-service provider bringing MNOs, government, and real estate providers to work together in new ways. From stadiums and hospitals to skyscrapers and shopping centres, we provide mobile, 5G and Wi-Fi connectivity infrastructure all over the UK and Europe.
    Fortune Favours the Bold: Website | LinkedIn
    Bold is a coworking brand owned and operated by NewFlex.
    Future Proof Your Portfolio with NewFlex: Website | LinkedIn
    NewFlex delivers and manages a range of branded solutions for every type of building, in every type of location, for every type of occupier. Including the flexibility to develop your own brand. All enabled by flexible management contracts where we are invested in making money for you.
    Brave Corporation: Website | LinkedIn
    The next generation real estate company driving value through strategic asset repositioning to de-risk assets and increase NOI. 
    Launch Your Own Podcast: Website | LinkedIn
    ShoRunner is the leading podcast production and strategic content company for brands, organisations, institutions, individuals, and entrepreneurs. Our team sets you up with the right strategy, equipment, training, guidance and content to ensure you sound amazing while speaking to your niche audience and networking with your perfect clients. Get in touch jason@shorunner.com

    • 35 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
30 Ratings

30 Ratings

SmiffCakes ,

Super interesting!

It’ll be interesting to hear the different takes on how offices utilize their space, as some do it well and others do not. Can’t wait to dissect the upcoming episodes!

Duke Long ,

Space As A Service

Spectacular content and they mentioned me so, 5 stars all around.And yes Antony I did invent it!

GogiTLV ,

Off to a great start!

Great to hear a serious discussion about the future of office space and space-as-a-service by two people who spent a lot of time researching this topic and trying to reinvent the industry from within. A great start to this new podcast!

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