Episode 120: Faith, Therapy, and Financial Success with Jamal Jones

Money Mindset and Stewardship for Therapists: An Interview with Jamal Jones

In this episode of the SoulCare for Therapists podcast, host Dawn Gabriel interviews Jamal, a therapist and business coach, about his journey from growing up in a faith-based family to becoming a counselor with a strong money mindset. Jamal shares his personal and professional story, emphasizing the importance of goal setting, faith, and stewardship in running a successful therapy practice. He discusses common money mindset issues among therapists and provides insights on setting appropriate fees, transitioning clients to private pay, and the value of investing in one’s services. The conversation also touches on the balance between clinical care and business operations, stressing the importance of both in achieving a sustainable and fulfilling career in mental health.

Show Highlights

• 00:00 Welcome and Introduction
• 01:40 Jamal's Early Life and Faith Journey
• 04:09 College Years and Fellowship of Christian Athletes
• 05:26 Economic Crisis and Career Shift
• 07:51 Starting a Private Practice
• 09:56 Money Mindset and Fee Structures
• 19:45 Coaching and Business Growth
• 22:42 Resentment and Money Mindset
• 24:29 A Modern Miracle in Therapy
• 26:07 New Therapy Packages and Rates
• 29:49 Value-Based Pricing Explained
• 33:09 Avoiding Burnout and Increasing Rates
• 37:46 Entrepreneurial Opportunities for Therapists
• 39:43 Conclusion and Contact Information

• Guset Social Media Handles: 
• Guest Facebook: Jamal Jones
• Guest Instagram: Instagram (@jamall.jones1)
• Guest LinkedIn: LinkedIn 
• Guest YouTube: The Purpose-Driven Therapist
• Guest Website: The Purpose Driven Therapist: Guiding private practice therapists to greater impact and income
• 5 Essential Strategies to Preven therapist Burnout - PDF Guide
• Sacred Space Community Groups - with Dawn
• Soul Care Retreats: Exclusively for therapists who want to recharge in a deep and fulfilling way. You will engage in your own spiritual journey, find some release from the work you do, as well as connect with other therapists all while enjoying the beauty of Colorado at a secluded and peaceful retreat center. Limited to 6-8 therapists.
• Show Notes and Podcast Production by Course Creation Studio.