Welcome to The Compassion Initiative Podcast Series. This Podcast series features Dr Stan Steindl and Dr James Kirby, both Clinical Psychologists. Stan and James are the co-founders of The Compassion Initiative. The podcast series is a relaxed informal ongoing conversation between Stan and James about issues related to compassion. You can access and subscribe to the Podcast on our website: www.thecompassioninitiative.com.au
Compassion in a T-Shirt: In session with Tony Fernando (Part 1)
"As long as the sky exists, as long as there are sentient beings, may I remain to help and relieve them of their suffering."
Dr Tony Fernando is a psychiatrist and researcher in Auckland, New Zealand. He obtained his medical degree from the University of the Philippines and his internship at St Luke’s Roosevelt Hospital (Columbia University) in New York. Tony’s research interest is in sleep medicine and medical compassion. He plays the cello, is a cheap-eats foodie and despite his fear of the water, has swum across the Auckland Harbour and competes in ocean races and triathlons. In January of 2017, he received temporary ordination as a Buddhist monk in Chanmyay Myaing monastery in Myanmar. He completed his PhD at the University of Auckland, studying barriers to compassion in medicine. More recently, he started a weekly mindfulness and emotional balance programme for inmates at Mt Eden Correctional Facility in Auckland. This is Part 1 of my conversation with Tony.
3.06 Tell us a little bit about yourself, your life, your work.
6.11 Tell us more about your interest in Buddhist philosophy.
11.45 What did you notice was the interface between Buddhism and psychiatry?
19.59 Having daily reminders to prompt mindfulness and compassion.
20.38 As long as the sky exists, as long as there are sentient beings, may I remain to help and relieve them of their suffering.
25.16 How are loving-kindness and compassion meditations similar or different?
Beyond Compassion Fatigue: The Transactional Model of Physician Compassion. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0885392413006179
Barriers to Medical Compassion as a Function of Experience and Specialization: Psychiatry, Pediatrics, Internal Medicine, Surgery, and General Practice. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0885392416312209
How Do Health Professionals Maintain Compassion Over Time? Insights From a Study of Compassion in Health. https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2020.564554/full?utm_source=researcher_app&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=RESR_MRKT_Researcher_inbound
Self-compassion as a Stress Moderator: A Cross-sectional Study of 1700 Doctors, Nurses, and Medical Students. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12671-020-01325-6
Compassion in a T-Shirt: In Session With Johannes Graser
Transforming shame with people who have intellectual disabilities: "I'm not all bad with stuff like this. I'm quite good!"
Dr Johannes Graser is a Clinical Psychologist, licensed CBT-Therapist, Researcher and Lecturer based at Witten/Herdecke University in Germany. He has extensive training in CFT and has presented workshops on CFT and Loving Kindness Meditation. His research focuses on CFT for patients with intellectual disabilities and patients with persistent depressive disorder. He is founder of a German volunteering platform to bring together volunteers and social institutions (www.freizeit-helden.de). In his free time, he writes jokes which he loves to perform at rather small standup-comedy clubs.
4.00 Please tell us a little bit about yourself
11.04 Tell us about your PhD, working with persistent depressive disorder using CFT
13.06 CFT with people who have mild to moderate intellectual disability
15.14 What has your research found in terms of process of change for those with persistent depressive disorder?
19.02 What has your research found in terms of process of change for those with intellectual disabilities?
19.46 How might you adapt CFT to work with people who have intellectual disabilities?
25.05 What challenges arrive when working with this group?
31.29 Working with shame with people who have intellectual disabilities.
40.00 How have compassion and self-compassion found their way into your personal life?
43.55 What are three tips you might offer others who are on their own compassionate journey?
46.57 Where can people find you and engage with you and your work?
Harvard Review of Psychiatry Publication:
Graser, Johannes MSc; Stangier, Ulrich PhD Compassion and Loving-Kindness Meditation: An Overview and Prospects for the Application in Clinical Samples, Harvard Review of Psychiatry: 7/8 2018 - Volume 26 - Issue 4 - p 201-215 doi: 10.1097/HRP.0000000000000192
Compassion in a T-Shirt: In Session With Deirdre Fay (Part 2)
Deirdre Fay, MSW, LICSW, integrates trauma and attachment theory with yoga and meditation in embodiment. The founder of the Becoming Safely Embodied Skills, she maintains a private practice working with individuals and groups and presenting around the world. She is the author of several books, most recently "Becoming Safely Embodied: A Guide to Organize Your Mind, Body and Heart to Feel Secure in the World." This is Part 2 of a 2-part conversation with Deirdre. In Part 1, we discussed how she arrived at her approach to becoming safely embodied. In Part 2, she describes the nine becoming safely embodied skills from her recent book: belonging, meditation, internal information flow, separating facts from feelings, addressing parallel lives, working with parts, carving out a new path, telling and retelling, and finding guidance from your older wiser self.
1.22 Skill 1: Belonging
7.05 Skill 2: Meditation
15.33 Skill 3: Internal Information Flow
17.59 Skill 4: Separating Facts from Feelings
22.08 Skill 5: Addressing Parallel Lives
25.59 Skill 6: Working with Parts
27.39 Skill 7: Carving Out a New Path
28.48 Skill 8: Telling and Retelling, and Skill 9: Finding Guidance from Your Older, Wiser Self
32.35 What are three tips you might offer people who are on their own compassionate journey?
Compassion in a T-Shirt: In Session With Deirdre Fay (Part 1)
"What happened to me and how can I put myself back together again?"
Deirdre Fay, MSW, LICSW, integrates trauma and attachment theory with yoga and meditation in embodiment. The founder of the Becoming Safely Embodied Skills, she maintains a private practice working with individuals and groups and presenting around the world. She is the author of several books, most recently "Becoming Safely Embodied: A Guide to Organize Your Mind, Body and Heart to Feel Secure in the World." This is Part 1 of a 2-part conversation with Deirdre. In Part 1, we discuss how she arrived at her approach to becoming safely embodied. Part 2 will discuss the nine becoming safely embodied skills from her recent book.
2.13 How did you arrive at this notion of becoming safely embodied?
4.00 What happened to me and how can I put myself back together again?
5.01 Could this approach work for others too?
6.29 Attachment theory and the importance of scaffolding.
8.03 Becoming Safely Embodied identifies these fundamental skills that help with scaffolding.
12.01 Becoming embodied is scary, and so we have to find a way to do it safely.
15.39 When we are exposed to all the facets to ourselves, it's chaos and overwhelming.
17.20 When the rise, crest and fall gets blocked.
Compassion in a T-Shirt: In Session with Michaela Thomas
“I’m not going to take your ambition away, I’m just going to help you not drown in it.”
Michaela Thomas is a UK-based Clinical Psychologist and couples therapist with over fifteen years' experience. She established and runs The Thomas Connection, and has recently published a couples and compassion book called "The Lasting Connection". Michaela's special interests lie in Compassion Focused Therapy, Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, perfectionism and couples relationships. The original YouTube video can be found here: https://youtu.be/wDgKDSBVUsU
2.24 Tell us a little bit about yourself, your work, your life.
5.05 Perfectionism: I must be perfect; self-criticism: I'm never good enough.
7.59 The three flows, or orientations, of perfectionism.
11.14 What is the definition of clinical perfectionism?
14.04 The potential downsides of perfectionism.
18.10 Tell us a little bit about your journey into compassion and self-compassion.
20.55 Fears, blocks and resistance to compassion and self-compassion.
22.01 The "inner mentor(s)" and the "inner tormentor".
25.34 Introducing the "Goblin Self" in compassion focused couples therapy.
28.16 What are your thoughts about guilt in the context of compassion focused couples therapy?
34.20 Working with forgiveness in compassion focused couples therapy.
36.09 The Lasting Connection by Michaela Thomas.
39.22 Where does tolerance fit in healthy couples relationships?
42.14 How do you differentiate love versus compassion?
48.31 Tell us a bit about any current or future projects that you might have on the go.
52.28 What are three tips you would offer others who are making their way on their own compassionate journey?
54.58 How can people find you, and engage with you and your work?
The Lasting Connection https://thethomasconnection.co.uk/thelastingconnection/
The Multidimensional Perfectionism Scale:
Compassion in a T-Shirt: In Session with Kristy Arbon
Somatic Self-Compassion: checking in with the interoceptive experience, buckets of choice to create safeness, and individualised approaches to soothing.
Kristy Arbon is an experienced mindfulness and mindful self-compassion teacher and trainer. She has had a long association with Drs Kristin Neff and Christopher Germer, and was administrator for the Center for Mindful Self-Compassion. She has worked extensively with mindful self-compassion, teaching and training all around the world. And she has many other strings to her bow, not least developing over recent years her trauma informed and sensitive Somatic Self-Compassion program, which has been evaluated in a recent paper published just this year.
3.01 Tell us a bit about yourself, your work, your life.
5.24 Being introduced to Mindful Self-Compassion.
12.33 What do you notice about people's experience of "backdraft" when they first engage with self-compassion?
14.06 Individual differences in the experience of self-compassion.
30.07 Tell us more about Somatic Self-Compassion.
37.36 Checking in with interoceptive experiences in Somatic Self-Compassion is a learned skill.
42.48 The importance of choice in Somatic Self-Compassion to help create a sense of safeness.
45.34 The third phase of Somatic Self-Compassion is the soothing.
51.33 How can people engage with you and your work?
53.29 What are three tips you would offer others who are making their way on their own compassionate journey?
Somatic Self-Compassion Training Reduces Perceived Stress, Internalized Shame, and Bodily Shame while Increasing Coping Self-efficacy and Self-compassion. http://www.lidsen.com/journals/icm/icm-06-01-011