The Brand Marketing Show

Catherine Langman

Welcome The Brand Marketing Show. The show for the creators. The innovators. The ones who wake up at 3am with an idea that won't let go and refuse to accept "that's just how it's done." Who sketch prototypes on napkins and turn kitchen tables into laboratories. Who look at every "impossible" and whisper back, "watch me." You don't just create products. And you understand that people don't fall in love with features and benefits. They fall in love with the future you're building. The problems you're solving. The way you make them feel when they hold your creation in their hands. And you're determined to make them feel something extraordinary. Some might call you perfectionists. Dreamers. Disruptors. We call you the future. Because while the world is drowning in ordinary, you're busy crafting extraordinary. While mass market settles for mediocre, you're obsessing over every detail that transforms a simple product into an experience people can't stop talking about. I'm Cath Langman, and I'm here to lift the lid on what's possible when innovation meets obsession. When purpose meets profit. When the crazy idea in your head becomes the must-have product in their hands. Are you ready to turn your vision into their obsession? Let's go.

  1. 16 HRS AGO

    Why Temu Is Trying to Become a Premium Brand — And What That Tells You About Yours

    What happens when the world's most famous cheap marketplace shows up at a premium gift fair, trying to convince quality brands to list on their platform?   That's exactly what happened at the REED Gift Fair in Sydney earlier this year — and the implications for premium eCommerce brands are enormous.   In this episode of The Brand Marketing Show, Catherine Langman unpacks what Temu's repositioning attempt reveals about the fatal flaw in the race-to-the-bottom strategy — and why the brand founders who are discounting to compete with cheap platforms are making a catastrophic mistake with their positioning.   You'll also hear what the Australia Post eCommerce Report 2026 actually says about where the money is going — hint: Australians spent a record $82.6 billion online in 2025 — and how to make sure your premium brand is getting its share.   In this episode: The Temu story from REED Gift Fair and what it reveals about sustainable positioning Why the $82.6 billion in online spending is great news for premium brands — if you understand who's spending it The basket size vs purchase frequency insight that explains exactly what's happening in the market right now Why cheap platforms growing is actually an argument FOR stronger premium differentiation, not against it The dupe psychology: what those Kmart dupe conversations reveal about different buyer types What premium brands should be doing during the April quiet period (and why going quiet is the worst thing you can do)   Relevant links and resources mentioned in this episode can be found in the show notes at catherinelangman.com   Connect with Catherine: Instagram: @catherinelangman TikTok: @thebrandmarketingshow Website: productpreneurmarketing.com

    27 min
  2. You Might Also Like: The Oprah Podcast

    16 HRS AGO ·  BONUS

    You Might Also Like: The Oprah Podcast

    Introducing How to Navigate Life’s Big Transitions with Oprah and Bestselling Author Jim Collins from The Oprah Podcast. Follow the show: The Oprah Podcast Oprah talks with the international bestselling author of Good to Great, Jim Collins, to discuss his groundbreaking new book What to Make of a Life. Drawing on ten years of research, Collins offers a data-driven answer to one of life’s most enduring questions: What do we do with this one precious life we’ve been given and how do you know what you’re truly meant to do? Collins explores how to navigate life’s “cliffs”—periods of great transition that leave us disoriented and how to find direction in the midst of mental fog. Oprah shares her own journey through 'the fog' and how she found her way out. Collins also offers practical guidance for anyone confronting a major career transition. This is a conversation for anyone, at any stage of life, seeking greater clarity, direction and meaning. BUY THE BOOK! What to Make of a Life, published by HarperCollins and written by Jim Collins, is available wherever books are sold. https://www.harpercollins.com/products/what-to-make-of-a-life-jim-collins?variant=44343300227106 00:00:00 - Welcome Jim Collins, author of ‘What to Make of a Life’ 00:03:19 - Why Jim started writing the book 00:06:50 - Every life has a cliff 00:10:25 - Cliffs can take many forms 00:14:30 - Self compassion for the cliff 00:19:00 - Oprah’s many revelations while reading 00:22:44 - Oprah on her encoding 00:25:00 - Oprah cold calling Toni Morrison 00:30:20 - How to deal with the fog after the cliff 00:35:22 - What holds people back 00:36:45 - How to embrace the tumult and the calm 00:44:10 - The color of your fire changes 00:47:00 - The relationship between work and money 00:50:40 - The competence-doom loop Follow Oprah Winfrey on Social: https://www.instagram.com/oprahpodcast/ https://www.facebook.com/oprahwinfrey/ Listen to the full podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/0tEVrfNp92a7lbjDe6GMLI https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-oprah-podcast/id1782960381 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices DISCLAIMER: Please note, this is an independent podcast episode not affiliated with, endorsed by, or produced in conjunction with the host podcast feed or any of its media entities. The views and opinions expressed in this episode are solely those of the creators and guests. For any concerns, please reach out to team@podroll.fm.

  3. 2 APR

    Why Premium Buyers Don't Buy From Ads Alone — and What They Do Instead

    If you're running paid ads for a premium eCommerce brand and your ROAS isn't scaling — or you've been posting consistently for years and growth has stalled — this episode is for you. This week I'm talking about something that almost nobody in the marketing world addresses directly: the validation search. It's what premium buyers do in the five minutes between seeing your ad and deciding whether to buy — and it has almost nothing to do with how good your ad was. I also get into a story that will be very familiar to a lot of innovative founders: spending years creating something truly original, only to see a cheap dupe appear at Kmart or Target. And why the reframe you need isn't anger — it's clarity about which customer was ever yours to begin with. In this episode: The psychology of the validation search — what premium buyers actually do after they see your ad Why the Kmart dupe buyer and the premium buyer are completely different customers — and why that's actually great news for your brand The buyer personality that struggles most with premium pricing — and how to recognise if it's you Why the search landscape has shifted and why premium brands have a structural advantage in it A three-question brand audit you can run today to see exactly where you stand   🔗 Search Everywhere Optimisation for Premium eCommerce Brands — $47 https://www.productpreneurmarketing.com/searcheverywhereoptimisation2   Search The Brand Marketing Show wherever you get your podcasts.

    40 min
  4. 27 MAR

    How Smart eCommerce Brands MarketDifferently When Times Are Tough

    If your eCommerce marketing used to work brilliantly and lately it's feeling like you're pushing harder for smaller returns — you're not imagining it. The landscape has genuinely changed. And the instinctive responses most brand owners reach for when results decline are almost always the ones that make things worse.   In this episode, Catherine Langman unpacks what's actually happening — and what smart eCommerce brands do differently when times get tough.   In this episode you'll hear: Why declining ROAS is almost never a creative problem — and where the real issue usually lives Two real brand case studies that illustrate exactly how a slow marketing death spiral begins The three instinctive responses to declining results that all make things worse (and why) What Cameron McEvoy's world-record-breaking training model can teach every eCommerce brand owner right now The practical steps that actually move the needle: product page conversion, compounding channels, and building through a downturn instead of waiting it out   Resources & links mentioned: Customer Intelligence Snapshot — complete before midnight Easter Monday 6 April and receive free access to our High-Converting Product Page Design course (normally $197): https://productpreneur.typeform.com/to/KtROkkMA  High-Converting Product Page Design course: https://www.productpreneurmarketing.com/highconvertingproductpagedesign      Other Ways To Enjoy This Episode: Listen on Apple Podcasts Listen on Spotify Youtube

    31 min
  5. 19 MAR

    Why Scaling Your Ad Spend Breaks Your ROAS (And How to Fix It)

    You scaled your ad spend. Your ROAS had other plans. There's a specific kind of dread that sets in when you bump your Meta budget from $80 a day to $300 and watch your ROAS crater in real time. You do what any reasonable person would do. You blame the ads. New creative. New audiences. Maybe a strongly worded conversation with your ad manager. But here's the thing: your ads aren't the problem. This week on The Brand Marketing Show, I'm pulling apart the real reason scaling kills your ROAS — and it has everything to do with what happens after the click. In this episode, you'll decode: Why warm traffic forgives a mediocre product page, but cold traffic bounces in three seconds flat The compounding cost of running ads to a page that isn't ready (spoiler: it's not just lost sales — it's making your whole ad account worse over time) The five non-negotiable elements that convert cold traffic for premium brands — without resorting to fake countdown timers or desperate discount codes Real numbers from a real client: how restructuring one product page moved conversion rate from 1.8% to 4.1% in six weeks — same traffic, same ads, same product Whether you're currently scaling or planning to, this episode will change how you look at your funnel. ▶ Listen to the episode now     While you're here — a quick note on the $47 thing. If you listen to the episode and think "okay, I need to actually fix my product pages" — I've put together a short course that walks you through exactly how to do it. It's called High-Converting Product Page Design, and it normally sits at $197. This week, it's $47. That's less than most brands spend on ads in a single afternoon. But it could be the difference between bleeding money every time you try to scale, and finally running ads that actually work. → Grab the course for $47 (Don't sit on this one — the price goes back up.)   Links mentioned in this episode: If you'd like help to achieve your goals, I invite you to have a chat to find out how we can make that happen together HERE By booking a Free Growth Strategy https://productpreneurmarketing.com/lets-talk   Other Ways To Enjoy This Episode: Listen on Apple Podcasts Listen on Spotify Youtube

    19 min
  6. 12 MAR

    The Afterpay Day Dilemma: How To Show Up Without Selling Out

    Let's talk about the week you're probably having… Petrol prices have hit $2 a litre – and heading higher – thanks to the US-Israel strikes on Iran disrupting global oil supply. Cost-of-living anxiety is back with a vengeance. And Afterpay Day officially kicks off on the 19th, though half the brands on your feed have already launched early. Your sales data is probably already softening as consumers sit tight and wait for the deals. So the question on every brand founder's lips right now: do I discount? The honest answer isn't yes or no. It's it depends entirely on how you do it. RM Williams runs percentage-off promotions occasionally. Their brand is completely intact. Adore Beauty discounted frequently after their ASX float and watched margins fall to almost nothing. David Jones once had a tuxedo-wearing pianist on a Steinway in their ground floor – and made a deliberate decision to never, ever call their promotions a "Sale." Same tool. Wildly different outcomes. In this week's episode of The Brand Marketing Show, I pull the whole thing apart – the five conditions under which a straight discount is fine for a premium brand, why you lose your best customers to confusion not price, and three ways to play Afterpay Day that protect your positioning while still capturing the revenue opportunity. This one's worth a listen before next Wednesday. And if you'd rather just talk it through for your specific brand before Afterpay Day – margins, offer mechanics, positioning – that's what a Growth Strategy Session is for. BOOK HERE   Catherine x   Links mentioned in this episode: If you'd like help to achieve your goals, I invite you to have a chat to find out how we can make that happen together HERE By booking a Free Growth Strategy https://productpreneurmarketing.com/lets-talk   Other Ways To Enjoy This Episode: Listen on Apple Podcasts Listen on Spotify Youtube

    30 min
  7. 5 MAR

    The ChatGPT Walkout: What 60 Million Angry Users Can Teach You About Your Ecommerce Website

    So there I was, Tuesday afternoon, in the middle of working away — using Claude, which for those who don't know, is the AI tool I'm using extensively throughout my entire business at this point — and it just... stopped.   Completely. Just stopped responding.   Now, the first thing I did (as any completely rational person would 🤓) was assume I had somehow personally broken the internet. Classic. I sat there for a moment, refreshing the page like that was going to help, wondering what on earth I'd done.   And then I did what any self-respecting person does when technology lets them down: I opened social media to see if it was just me.   It was not just me.   What I found instead was this extraordinary wave of conversation: people asking each other if they were switching from ChatGPT to Claude, people posting step-by-step guides on how to cancel their ChatGPT subscriptions, people talking about their values, their ethics, their data. And I'm reading all of this thinking: what is happening right now?   So I dug into it. And what I found was one of the most fascinating, real-time case studies in values-based consumer behaviour I have ever witnessed.   And that, friends, is what today's episode is about.   Today we are talking about what happens when a brand draws a hard line, stands behind its values publicly, and watches its customers do the marketing for it.   And, more importantly, what that means for your eCommerce brand. Because the lesson here isn't about AI wars. It's about the most powerful force in marketing: a customer who buys because they feel seen, not because they found the best price.       Links mentioned in this episode: If you'd like help to achieve your goals, I invite you to have a chat to find out how we can make that happen together HERE By booking a Free Growth Strategy https://productpreneurmarketing.com/lets-talk High Converting Product Page Design      Other Ways To Enjoy This Episode: Listen on Apple Podcasts Listen on Spotify Youtube

    25 min
  8. 25 FEB

    The Platform Everyone's Leaving (And Why You Shouldn't)

    Every year about this time, statistics are published on the state of social media. Over 1,500 marketers worldwide about what they're doing with social media. And every year, the herd moves collectively in the same direction… This year? They're all stampeding toward Instagram and TikTok. Reddit's had a 63% surge in usage. Everyone's excited about the new, the fresh, the platforms that feel like they're going somewhere. And Facebook? Facebook has officially been dumped. It's now 2026's least-loved platform with around 30% of marketers actively reducing their efforts there. The collective breakup is happening in real time. There's just one small problem with this mass exodus… The data doesn't support it. Facebook's ad reach actually grew 5.7% year-on-year. Its potential ad audience? A casual 2.35 billion people. And 53% of consumers still use it to research brands before buying. So let me get this straight. A platform where the audience is growing, the reach is increasing, and more than half the users are actively shopping around... and businesses are leaving? Something doesn't add up here. Either 30% of marketers know something the data doesn't. Or 30% of marketers are making a decision that has nothing to do with what actually works. So in this episode, I unpack why marketers are really leaving Facebook, which of those reasons are legitimate and which are just noise, and why this exodus might be the biggest opportunity you'll see this year. Because I think there's a real danger in following the crowd here. The marketing industry has a tendency to move as a herd — everyone chasing the same platforms, the same tactics, the same trends. And when the herd moves, it often creates opportunity for those willing to go the other direction. Links mentioned in this episode: If you'd like help to achieve your goals, I invite you to have a chat to find out how we can make that happen together HERE By booking a Free Growth Strategy https://productpreneurmarketing.com/lets-talk   Other Ways To Enjoy This Episode: Listen on Apple Podcasts Listen on Spotify Youtube

    35 min
5
out of 5
21 Ratings

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Welcome The Brand Marketing Show. The show for the creators. The innovators. The ones who wake up at 3am with an idea that won't let go and refuse to accept "that's just how it's done." Who sketch prototypes on napkins and turn kitchen tables into laboratories. Who look at every "impossible" and whisper back, "watch me." You don't just create products. And you understand that people don't fall in love with features and benefits. They fall in love with the future you're building. The problems you're solving. The way you make them feel when they hold your creation in their hands. And you're determined to make them feel something extraordinary. Some might call you perfectionists. Dreamers. Disruptors. We call you the future. Because while the world is drowning in ordinary, you're busy crafting extraordinary. While mass market settles for mediocre, you're obsessing over every detail that transforms a simple product into an experience people can't stop talking about. I'm Cath Langman, and I'm here to lift the lid on what's possible when innovation meets obsession. When purpose meets profit. When the crazy idea in your head becomes the must-have product in their hands. Are you ready to turn your vision into their obsession? Let's go.

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