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Six Pixels of Separation - Mitch Joel’s weekly conversation with business leaders, thinkers, innovators and cultural icons. The show is about insights and provocations on brands, consumers, technology, business and how connected we’ve all become.

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Six Pixels of Separation - Mitch Joel’s weekly conversation with business leaders, thinkers, innovators and cultural icons. The show is about insights and provocations on brands, consumers, technology, business and how connected we’ve all become.

    SPOS #932 – Nicholas Mattei On AI And The Future Of Smarter Machines

    SPOS #932 – Nicholas Mattei On AI And The Future Of Smarter Machines

    Welcome to episode #932 of Six Pixels of Separation - The ThinkersOne Podcast.
    Nicholas Mattei is an Associate Professor of Computer Science at Tulane University. Nick has dedicated his career to exploring the theory and practice of artificial intelligence, with a focus on decision-making systems for both autonomous agents and humans. He’s been into AI since he was young, influenced by his mother (a program coordinator at a science center, and his father, a professor). His early fascination with computers and programming laid the foundation for a career that has spanned prestigious institutions and cutting-edge projects. Before joining Tulane University, Nick worked as a Research Staff Member at the IBM TJ Watson Research Laboratory, where he tackled complex problems in question answering, natural language inference, decision making, and the ethical implications of AI on society. Prior to his time at IBM, he contributed to the AI & Algorithmic Decision Theory Group at Data61 in Australia. His work there and his involvement in organizing workshops on computational social choice highlight his commitment to advancing AI research. He also spent time at NASA in engineering where he was responsible for the design and implementation of control systems software for multiple small satellites. All cool stuff. At Tulane, Nick is not only advancing AI research but also emphasizing the importance of interdisciplinary collaboration. He works closely with the law school and sociology departments to study the societal impacts of AI. His leadership at the Tulane Center of Excellence for Community-Engaged AI demonstrates his dedication to ensuring that technological advancements benefit the wider community. Nick is passionate about education and mentorship, continually striving to inspire the next generation of AI researchers. His ability to bridge the gap between theoretical AI and practical applications makes him a valuable asset to both the academic and broader communities... and business thinkers like you. If you’re trying to understand the distinctions between traditional coding and AI, the nuances of machine learning, and the evolving landscape of AI technologies, this one is for you. Nick reflects on the challenges and opportunities presented by Generative AI, as well as his thoughts on the ethical deployment of AI systems, offering a nuanced perspective on the future of technology. His pragmatic approach to AI, coupled with his optimism about its potential to create value, provides a balanced view that is both insightful and thought-provoking at a time when we need it most. Enjoy the conversation...
    Running time: 1:06:08. Hello from beautiful Montreal. Subscribe over at Apple Podcasts. Please visit and leave comments on the blog - Six Pixels of Separation. Feel free to connect to me directly on Facebook here: Mitch Joel on Facebook. Check out ThinkersOne. or you can connect on LinkedIn. ...or on Twitter. Here is my conversation with Nicholas Mattei. Tulane University. Tulane Center of Excellence for Community-Engaged AI. Follow Nick on LinkedIn. Follow Nick on X. This week's music: David Usher 'St. Lawrence River'. Takeaways
    Interdisciplinary work, particularly between computer science, law, and sociology, is crucial to understanding the societal impacts of AI. AI is broadly defined as making computers appear intelligent, covering tasks like Google Maps navigation and Netflix recommendations, while machine learning involves training computers to learn from data and make predictions without explicit programming. Traditional AI integrates data across sources, whereas generative AI predicts the next word in a sequence based on large datasets. Generative AI excels at repetitive writing tasks but struggles with truly innovative creativity, as it mimics patterns from its training data. Significant concerns exist about the ethical deployment of AI, particularly regarding data privacy, copyright issues, and potential societal imp

    • 1 hr 6 min
    SPOS #931 – Peter Winick Debates Mitch Joel On The Art And Business Of Thought Leadership

    SPOS #931 – Peter Winick Debates Mitch Joel On The Art And Business Of Thought Leadership

    Here it is: Six Pixels of Separation - The ThinkersOne Podcast - Episode #931. What is a thought leader? What does thought leadership look like? How do you become a thought leader? I’ve spent decades fascinated by people who undertake the job of either creating or building on great ideas (mostly in business). It’s what led me to start ThinkersOne and it’s the same thing that keeps me inspired to show up here - week after week - and have these types of conversations. This week, we’re doing something a little bit different. I reached out to Peter Winick - the founder and CEO of Thought Leadership Leverage and host of the Leveraging Thought Leadership Podcast - and asked him if he would mind leading a conversation on the business of thought leadership. We were both eager to discuss and debate the value of thought leadership, the changing landscape of book publishing, building a personal brand, the power of thought leadership in corporate settings, the role of social proofing and more. We both agree that it’s all about relationship development, balancing vanity metrics and strategic networking, developing thought leadership skills and leveraging thought leadership for business opportunities. We explore the importance of creating mid-tier products, amplifying thought leaders' voices, and democratizing intellectual property. The conversation delves into building a sustainable thought leadership business, using thought leadership as a business generation strategy, and the real money in thought leadership. While we both might not love the title of “thought leader” we both agree on the value of people who chose the importance of lifelong learning, content creation, and balancing creativity with business strategy as a profession. Enjoy the conversation...
    Running time: 1:15:33. Hello from beautiful Montreal. Subscribe over at Apple Podcasts. Please visit and leave comments on the blog - Six Pixels of Separation. Feel free to connect to me directly on Facebook here: Mitch Joel on Facebook. Check out ThinkersOne. or you can connect on LinkedIn. ...or on Twitter. Here is my conversation with Peter Winick. Thought Leadership Leverage. Leveraging Thought Leadership Podcast. Follow Peter on LinkedIn. Follow Peter on X. This week's music: David Usher 'St. Lawrence River'. Takeaways
    Practice and refinement are essential for thought leaders to deliver valuable content. Social media can serve as an R&D lab for testing ideas and gathering feedback. Thoughtful thought leadership focuses on adding value and engaging with the audience, while influencer marketing aims to persuade and sell products. Respecting the publish button and ensuring the quality of content is crucial for thought leaders. Artificial intelligence can be used to enhance thought leadership by improving writing, generating opposing perspectives, and providing new insights. Chapters:
    00:00 - Introduction and Background 01:31 - The Value of Thought Leadership 06:20 - Building Personal Brand and Thought Leadership 10:36 - The Power of Thought Leadership in Corporate Settings 11:36 - The Role of Social Proof in Thought Leadership 15:19 - Balancing Vanity Metrics and Strategic Networking 25:13 - Monetizing Relationships and Thought Leadership 27:10 - Democratizing Intellectual Property and Broadening Offerings 29:21 - Building a Sustainable Thought Leadership Business 30:19 - Thought Leadership as a Business Generation Strategy 31:21 - The Real Money in Thought Leadership: B2B 34:06 - Creating Personalized Experiences and Extending the Event Impact 37:27 - The Limitations of Speaking and the Need for Behavior Change 39:18 - The Importance of Lifelong Learning and Content Creation 47:58 - Experimenting with Different Formats and Reaching the Target Market 49:36 - Practicing in Public and the Challenges of Thought Leadership 53:18 - Using Social Media as an R&D Lab 54:15 Thoughtful Thought Leadership vs. Influencer Marketing 56:52 - Adding Sizzle to Thought Le

    • 1 hr 15 min
    SPOS #930 – Juliette Powell On The AI Dilemma

    SPOS #930 – Juliette Powell On The AI Dilemma

    Welcome to episode #930 of Six Pixels of Separation - The ThinkersOne Podcast.
    Here it is: Six Pixels of Separation - The ThinkersOne Podcast - Episode #930. I’ve known Juliette Powell since she was a famed VJ on MusiquePlus - MuchMusic and I was a music journalist back in the mid-ninties. While we lost touch over the years, we reconnected when she published her book about social media in 2008, 33 Million People in the Room - How to Create, Influence, and Run a Successful Business with Social Networking, and more recently with her latest, The AI Dilemma - 7 Principles for Responsible Technology (co-authored with Art Kleiner). The balance between innovation and ethics with artificial intelligence is becoming increasingly crucial. Juliette, a seasoned consultant at the intersection of technology and business (wit her consultancy, KPI), addresses this challenge head-on in The AI Dilemma. The book is a roadmap for businesses and governments looking to harness AI's potential responsibly. Juliette delves into the pressing issues surrounding AI deployment and the imperative of upholding ethical standards. With her extensive background consulting for multinational companies and her research at Columbia University, Juliette brings a wealth of knowledge and a unique perspective to the AI discourse. She explores the dual nature of AI - its capacity to drive unprecedented progress and its potential to perpetuate harm. She articulates the seven principles outlined in her book, which serve as guidelines for developing AI systems that support human flourishing while minimizing risks. These principles focus on rigorous risk assessment, transparency, data protection, bias reduction, accountability, organizational flexibility, and fostering an environment of psychological safety and creative friction. Juliette's insights are informed by real-world examples and her collaborations with institutions like Intel Labs and governmental bodies, which underscore the complexity of AI’s impact across various sectors. Our discussion also touches on the broader social implications of AI, including the challenges posed by data ownership, the illusion of personalized experiences, and the global divide in data value. Juliette addresses the confusion surrounding the term 'AI' and the critical need for digital literacy to navigate its consequences effectively. We all know that AI presents significant challenges but it also offers remarkable opportunities for those willing to engage with it thoughtfully and ethically. Enjoy the conversation...
    Running time: 1:00:36. Hello from beautiful Montreal. Subscribe over at Apple Podcasts. Please visit and leave comments on the blog - Six Pixels of Separation. Feel free to connect to me directly on Facebook here: Mitch Joel on Facebook. Check out ThinkersOne. or you can connect on LinkedIn. ...or on Twitter. Here is my conversation with Juliette Powell. The AI Dilemma - 7 Principles for Responsible Technology. 33 Million People in the Room - How to Create, Influence, and Run a Successful Business with Social Networking. KPI. Follow Juliette on LinkedIn. Follow Juliette on X. This week's music: David Usher 'St. Lawrence River'. Takeaways
    Understanding the impact of AI requires critical thinking and digital literacy. Data ownership and the responsible deployment of AI are crucial considerations. Government regulation and international cooperation are necessary to address the challenges of AI. The term 'AI' is often misused and misunderstood, leading to confusion in the marketplace. The development and deployment of AI should be driven by ethical considerations and a risk-benefit analysis. The Apex Benchmark. Alignment and Human Values: Ensuring that AI systems align with human values is a complex challenge, as different cultures and individuals have varying moral perspectives.  Creative Friction and Diverse Perspectives: The best products and ideas are often the result of collaboration and diverse perspecti

    • 1 hr
    SPOS #929 – Todd Henry On Cultivating Bravery In Creative Leadership

    SPOS #929 – Todd Henry On Cultivating Bravery In Creative Leadership

    Welcome to episode #929 of Six Pixels of Separation - The ThinkersOne Podcast.
    Here it is: Six Pixels of Separation - The ThinkersOne Podcast - Episode #929. Uncertainty and rapid change have become the business norm. The need for brave leadership is more pronounced than ever. Todd Henry, self-describes as an "arms dealer for the creative revolution," brings this point home in his latest book, The Brave Habit - A Guide To Courageous Leadership. Known for his extensive work with leaders and organizations to foster environments of innovation and creative brilliance, Todd's insights are always invaluable for anyone looking to thrive in creative or challenging industries. Todd’s been a friend for over a decade, and he is the person that I turn to when I think about new ways for human beings to be creative and more effective. Todd explores the evolving dynamics of bravery in the business world, especially in the realms of book publishing and the integration of artificial intelligence into creative processes. As the landscape of publishing shifts and AI begins to play a significant role in creativity, Todd discusses how these tools can be leveraged to enhance creative output without compromising the integrity of artistic expression. The Brave Habit is not just a manual - it's a manifesto for courageous action in times of daunting challenges. Todd emphasizes that bravery isn't an innate trait possessed by a select few but a skill that can be honed. His practical framework for courageous leadership is designed to empower professionals to make tough decisions and lead confidently through times of uncertainty. The conversation also touches on the risks posed by cancel culture and the pervasive fear of judgment that can stifle bold decision-making. Todd argues that creating a balance between homogeneity and creativity is crucial for fostering a culture of innovation. He highlights the role of empathy in understanding diverse perspectives and building a supportive environment where bravery can flourish. According to Todd, bravery involves doing the right thing in the face of fear or personal loss, and it is something that can and should be cultivated daily. Todd is also the author of The Accidental Creative, Die Empty, Herding Tigers, Daily Creative (also the name of his excellent and recently rebooted podcast), and Louder Than Words. Todd is also active on ThinkersOne where you can book him to pop into your next meeting. Enjoy the conversation...
    Running time: 1:09:06. Hello from beautiful Montreal. Subscribe over at Apple Podcasts. Please visit and leave comments on the blog - Six Pixels of Separation. Feel free to connect to me directly on Facebook here: Mitch Joel on Facebook. Check out ThinkersOne. or you can connect on LinkedIn. ...or on Twitter. Here is my conversation with Todd Henry. The Brave Habit - A Guide To Courageous Leadership. Daily Creative. Daily Creative Podcast. The Accidental Creative. Die Empty. Herding Tigers. Louder Than Words. Check out Todd on ThinkersOne. Follow Todd on X. Follow Todd In Instagram. Follow Todd on LinkedIn. This week's music: David Usher 'St. Lawrence River'. Takeaways
    The traditional model of book publishing is evolving, with new formats and publishing options emerging. AI has the potential to enhance creativity by providing new avenues of exploration and inspiration. Creativity is a complex concept, and the impact of AI on creativity is still being explored. Bravery is essential in creative pursuits, as it requires taking risks and challenging the status quo.  Cancel culture and the fear of making missteps can hinder bravery in the workplace. Finding a balance between homogeneity and creativity is crucial for fostering innovation. Empathy plays a significant role in promoting bravery and understanding different perspectives. Bravery is defined as doing the right thing even in the face of fear or personal loss. Being brave in a cowardice situation requires listening to one's cons

    • 1 hr 9 min
    SPOS #928 – Michael Gervais On The First Rule Of Mastery

    SPOS #928 – Michael Gervais On The First Rule Of Mastery

    Welcome to episode #928 of Six Pixels of Separation - The ThinkersOne Podcast.
    Here it is: Six Pixels of Separation - The ThinkersOne Podcast - Episode #928. Let’s explore what it means to master something. Dr. Michael Gervais is a world-renowned high-performance psychologist whose work has revolutionized the way we think about fear, potential, and personal growth. Mike, whose career spans working with top athletes and Fortune 100 leaders, delves into the critical barriers that impede our success and satisfaction in life — chief among them, the Fear Of Other People's Opinions (aka FOPO). His new book, The First Rule of Mastery - Stop Worrying about What People Think of You, dives deep into overcoming this pervasive fear. Mike articulates how FOPO manifests in nearly all aspects of our lives, constricting our actions and dampening our authenticity. From the sports field to the boardroom, the consequences of surrendering to FOPO are universally detrimental, leading us to play it safe and small. During our conversation, Mike shares his personal journey of curiosity, which has fueled his passion for understanding the human mind and its vast capabilities. He emphasizes that the path to mastery isn't just about achieving external success but about engaging in a lifelong process of learning, artistic expression, and embracing the moment. This approach not only enhances personal fulfillment but also drives us to contribute meaningfully to the world around us. We discuss the broader implications of living under the shadow of FOPO in today’s society, where insularity and tribalism often dominate. He highlights the importance of embracing a balanced perspective and the dual recognition of our significance to others while acknowledging our smallness in the grand scheme of things. As someone who splits his time between innovative projects at the Performance Science Institute at USC and his podcast Finding Mastery, Mike embodies the balance between action and reflection, making him an ideal guide for anyone looking to deepen their understanding of themselves and the world through the lens of mastery. Whether you're a leader, educator, or simply someone pursuing personal growth, this conversation will empower you to lead a high-performance life by mastering the art of tuning out the noise and focusing on what truly matters. Enjoy the conversation...
    Running time: 1:03:16. Hello from beautiful Montreal. Subscribe over at Apple Podcasts. Please visit and leave comments on the blog - Six Pixels of Separation. Feel free to connect to me directly on Facebook here: Mitch Joel on Facebook. Check out ThinkersOne. or you can connect on LinkedIn. ...or on Twitter. Here is my conversation with Dr. Michael Gervais. The First Rule of Mastery - Stop Worrying about What People Think of You. Finding Mastery Podcast. Finding Mastery. Follow Mike on LinkedIn. Follow Mike on X. Follow Mike on Instagram. Follow Mike on YouTube. This week's music: David Usher 'St. Lawrence River'. Takeaways
    Fear of other people's opinions (FOPO) can be a major obstacle to personal growth and potential. Setting high standards for oneself is more effective than having expectations. Context and culture play a crucial role in shaping our actions and behaviors. The path to mastery involves a deep commitment to learning, artistic expression, and a love affair with the unfolding moment. Maintaining authenticity and staying true to oneself can be challenging in the face of external expectations and pressures.  The voice inside our heads can either be a protector or a propeller, and it's important to be aware of its influence on our thoughts and actions. Success is a subjective concept that varies from person to person and is influenced by cultural and individual values. The current state of society is characterized by increasing insularity, tribalism, and a focus on superficial metrics of success. To live a good life, it is important to prioritize experiences, relatio

    • 1 hr 3 min
    SPOS #927 – Scott Shigeoka On Unleashing The Power Of Curiosity

    SPOS #927 – Scott Shigeoka On Unleashing The Power Of Curiosity

    Welcome to episode #927 of Six Pixels of Separation - The ThinkersOne Podcast.
    Here it is: Six Pixels of Separation - The ThinkersOne Podcast - Episode #927. Let’s get much more curious in our work (and in our daily lives) to help bring this world closer together. Scott Shigeoka has spent his time exploring the power of curiosity. This has not only won him accolades but also transformed how we think about bridging divides in our increasingly complex world. His new book, Seek - How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World, offers a look into curiosity as a force for positive change, earning praise from thinkers like Malcolm Gladwell and Adam Grant, and recognition as an Amazon Best Book of 2023. Scott’s unique perspective is shaped by a diverse background — from his roots in Hawaii to teaching groundbreaking courses at the University of Texas at Austin, and speaking for brands like Google and Pixar. His journey through curiosity began as a personal quest and has evolved into a universal call to action, underscored by his work at UC Berkeley's Greater Good Science Center. Our conversation also touches on the impact of the pandemic on curiosity, a time when questions and the search for understanding became more critical than ever. Scott discusses how embracing curiosity can empower us to navigate through crises with resilience and hope. He also delves into the challenges of cancel culture and scrutiny, which can stifle curiosity. Beyond individual growth, Scott explores how institutions like universities can serve as incubators for curiosity, promoting an environment where challenging discussions can occur without fear. The role of emotions in fueling or hindering curiosity emerges as a key theme, with Scott advocating for emotional intelligence as a complement to intellectual inquiry. As Scott splits his time between the vibrant San Francisco Bay Area and the tranquil Mojave Desert, he embodies the balance between action and reflection, making him an ideal guide for anyone looking to deepen their understanding of the world through the lens of curiosity. Whether you're a leader, educator, or simply someone looking to foster more meaningful connections, this conversation promises to offer valuable insights into making curiosity a dynamic part of your everyday life. Enjoy the conversation...
    Running time: 1:00:26. Hello from beautiful Montreal. Subscribe over at Apple Podcasts. Please visit and leave comments on the blog - Six Pixels of Separation. Feel free to connect to me directly on Facebook here: Mitch Joel on Facebook. Check out ThinkersOne. or you can connect on LinkedIn. ...or on Twitter. Here is my conversation with Scott Shigeoka. Seek - How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World. Greater Good Science Center. Follow Scott on Instagram. Follow Scott on X. Follow Scott on LinkedIn. This week's music: David Usher 'St. Lawrence River'. Takeaways
    Hope and optimism are essential for fostering curiosity and a vision for the future. Cancel culture and the fear of scrutiny can hinder curiosity and prevent the exploration of different perspectives. Power dynamics play a role in curiosity, with those in positions of power needing to be curious about the perspectives of others. Emotions can impact curiosity, and it is important to create spaces where different perspectives can be shared without fear of judgment. College campuses can serve as laboratories for fostering curiosity and bridging differences. Curiosity has the power to change perspectives and create positive relationships. Chapters:
    00:00 - Introduction and Background 02:15 - The Science of Curiosity 04:54 - The Catalyst for Writing the Book 07:49 - Curiosity During the Pandemic 12:51 - The Importance of Curiosity in Healing 18:36 - The Role of Curiosity in Bridging Differences 19:13 - The Power of Asking Questions 21:31 - The Dive Model 28:38 - Scaling Curiosity and Bridging Differences 43:17 - The Importance of Hope and O

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PS Still catching up on the 300 I've missed...

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