The Business of Dance MENINA FORTUNATO

Episode Summary:

Meisha Goetz, a seasoned professional and current director of the dance department at Clear Talent Group, shares her comprehensive journey and insights into the dance industry. Born and raised in Los Angeles, Meisha started dancing at the age of three and eventually transitioned from a performer to a significant player on the business side of dance.

Throughout the episode, Meisha discusses the evolution of her career, from early training to becoming an agent at Clear Talent Group after completing her studies in performing arts at Cal State University Channel Island. Her shift from performing to focusing on the business aspects of dance has led her to a fulfilling career managing and representing dancers.

Key topics covered include the pathways into the dance industry such as networking, open calls, and online submissions. Meisha elaborates on the audition processes at her agency, which are selective and invitation-based, underscoring the importance of versatility and the right presentation in materials submitted by dancers. Common pitfalls in these submissions include outdated photos, missing information, and poor self-taping practices.

The conversation also touches on significant industry changes prompted by the pandemic, such as the move towards online auditions and the evolving needs of virtual presentation skills. Meisha emphasizes the ongoing relevance of in-person auditions despite these changes.

Marketing oneself effectively as a dancer is another focus area, with Meisha advising on the necessity of a strong online presence and professional headshots to increase visibility and booking potential. She shares practical tips on creating a compelling casting profile that captures personality and versatility, which are crucial for standing out in a competitive market.

Overall, this episode provides valuable advice and real-world insights for dancers at any stage of their career, emphasizing adaptability, professionalism, and the importance of personal branding in achieving success in the ever-evolving dance industry.

Show Notes:




(0:03) Becoming an agent in the dance industry with a focus on personal story and professional experience.


(5:08) Entry points into the dance industry, including networking, online submissions, and open calls.


(9:36) Dance agency audition process and versatility as key to marketability.


(14:37) Changes in the dance industry due to COVID-19, including shift to online auditions and reduced need for in-person auditions.


(20:37) Marketing and promoting oneself as a dancer to increase visibility and bookings.


(25:30) Dance industry post-strike, tips for young dancers.


(30:12) Headshots, resumes, and what makes a dancer stand out.


(34:41) Dance exams, research during slow periods, and inspiration.


(38:51) Auditioning for dance agencies, resubmitting materials, and individuality in the industry.


(44:28) Dance industry, auditions, and special skills for success.


(53:26) Career advice for dancers with industry.



Biography:

Born and raised in Los Angeles, Meisha Goetz found passion in the industry at a young age. At the age of three her parents signed her up for dance classes at the local studio to where her passion for dance was to begin. After attending numerous dance competitions and conventions, key relationships were established with some of the best dancers and choreographers in the country.

Meisha graduated from Cal State University Channel Islands with a Bachelors in Performing Arts and a Minor Certification in Communication. Coupling her education with her experience as a dancer makes working at Clear Talent Group in the Dance Department the perfect match. Meisha’s dedication to her clients and nurturing personality makes her a great mentor for young talent.



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Webpage

http://www.cleartalentgroup.com/

Episode Summary:

Lucas McFarlane, a seasoned dance professional, shares his journey from Calgary to becoming a prominent figure in London's dance scene. Lucas discusses his early training in Calgary, his move to London at 18 without connections, and his rapid ascent, including winning a “Got to Dance” - a TV show that propelled him to fame in the UK.

The conversation highlights the unique opportunities and challenges within the London dance market, contrasting it with other major cities like Los Angeles. He also touches on the complexities of navigating agency relationships in London, where multiple agency representations are permitted, unlike in the US.

Additionally, Lucas and Menina discuss the critical role of work ethic, the benefits of shadowing industry professionals, and the necessity for dancers to vocalize their aspirations. They address practical aspects such as obtaining work visas.

The episode is rich with advice for young dancers, emphasizing the need to embrace individuality and the importance of patience and long-term thinking in building a sustainable career. This installment of the Business of Dance podcast offers valuable insights for anyone looking to navigate the complexities of a dance career, particularly in the vibrant and competitive London dance industry.



Show Notes:


(0:03) Dance career development with industry expert.


(2:16) Lucas´s unconventional dance career path from Calgary to London, UK.


(9:27) Benefits of living and working as a dancer in London, insights on the industry, competition, and job opportunities.


(15:33) The value of assisting and shadowing in the entertainment industry.


(17:50) Dance industry standards and highlights of speaker's career.


(22:29) Patience and longevity in the entertainment industry.


(26:47) Enjoying the dance journey, not just the destination.


(29:03) Dance careers, advice from industry professionals.


(34:28) Dance careers, challenges, and opportunities.


(39:59) Qualities desired in dancers for TV performances


(43:08) Challenges faced by male dancers in an industry dominated by females.


(48:42) Overcoming dance injuries and finding opportunities for teens in London.


(53:38) Dance career advice from industry professionals.



Biography:

Lukas McFarlane is a Creative/Choreographer from Canada. His career was skyrocketed when he was crowned the UK and Ireland’s best dance act, winning Sky1’s hit TV show, ‘Got to Dance’ at just 19 years old.

Even prior to this he had worked with such artists such as Carly Rae Jepson, Taylor Swift and Celine Dion early on in his career. Lukas’s passion however, always lied in creation and he is now a well-known and widely respected Creative/Choreographer.

He works consistently in tv and film on projects like 'The X Factor', ITV’s 'The Voice’ and Netflix’s new show ‘Dance Monsters’, and most recently worked closely with actress Julia Garner on the new Paramount film “Apartment 7A”

Lukas has also choreographed for Strictly Come Dancing. He has worked with global brands such as GAP, LYNK&CO and UNIQLO and for international artists such as James Arthur, Pink, Vance Joy and Rita Ora.

He worked on So You Think You Can Dance in 4 countries including the USA and is also well versed in creating live shows to audiences of more than 60 thousand at events like 'British Summer Time Hyde Park', 'Eurovision Song Contest', and The Queens Platinum Jubilee Celebration.

Lukas has also created for The West End as associate choreographer on the Sadler’s Wells and Universal Group production ‘Message In A Bottle’ which he also starred in.

He regularly shares his passion for teaching all over the world having taught in 5 of the 6 continents and is Founder and Creative Director of London based dance company UnTitled Dance Company who have performed their work to sold out audiences internationally.



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Episode Summary:

Heather Laura Gray recounts her evolution in dance, tracing back to her family's influence and the decisive moments that shaped her path. Heather shares tales of overcoming adversity and self-doubt during her rigorous ballet training and the subsequent transition to a broader performing arts career in Toronto. 

Emphasizing the power of versatility, Heather discusses expanding her repertoire beyond dance to singing and acting, and how her experience as a certified Pilates instructor enriched her career. She gives practical advice on financial sustainability and career longevity for dancers, encouraging them to embrace continuous reinvention.

Highlighting the intricacies of the film industry, Heather speaks to the collective importance of various roles and maintaining high professional standards within her teaching and creative endeavors. Her experiences underscore the value of emotional intelligence when guiding non-dancer performers.

As a mentor, Heather’s engagement with her Business of Dance program mentees illustrates the podcast's interactive approach to professional development. She advocates for lifelong learning and industry networking as key components of a successful dance career.

This episode serves not just as a reflection of Heather's journey but also as a guidepost for emerging talents in the performing arts, emphasizing resourcefulness, resilience, and the importance of a multi-disciplinary approach in crafting a fulfilling artistic career.



Show Notes:




00:00:58 - Early Life and Family Influence


00:05:47 - Turning Point and Encouragement


00:07:57 - Singing and Multi-Talent


00:21:59 - Roles and Responsibilities in Film


00:26:43 - Career Evolution and Reinvention


00:27:47 - Don't Limit Yourself


00:29:59 - Supporting Yourself in Dance


00:38:12 - Understanding Professional Standards


00:38:37 - The Business of Dance Mentorship Q&A session



Biography:

Heather Laura Gray in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, is a name that resonates deeply within the realms of dance, choreography, and the performing arts. Her journey into the world of arts and entertainment began at a young age through acting. Represented by Characters Talent Management in Vancouver, Heather worked in Film & TV, Voice Over, and Print.

Her love for dance soon took center stage, leading her to train with prestigious institutions like Arts Umbrella in Vancouver, L'Ecole Superieur de Danse du Quebec in Montreal, and Goh Ballet Academy in Vancouver. Here, she honed her skills in various dance forms including Ballet, Flamenco, Chinese Fan Dancing, and Russian Character Dance. Her talent was so exceptional that she toured China and France with the Goh Ballet, performing full-length ballets.

The city of Toronto became her next stage, where she expanded her repertoire to include musical theatre and street style dance skills. Heather landed roles in original musicals for Disney Cruise Lines, playing iconic characters like Cinderella and Belle. Her multidisciplinary approach also led her to act in independent films and popular TV shows like "Dead Like Me" and "The Chris Isaak Show."

Returning to Vancouver after five years in Toronto, Heather continued to diversify her portfolio. She took an interest in the art of choreography and began producing plays, directing, and choreographing stage shows. She immersed herself in street style training, focusing on dance forms like Popping, B-girling, House, Waacking, and Vogueing. 

Heather's choreographic brilliance has been showcased in six seasons of the CW series "Riverdale," Academy Award winner John Ridley's feature film "Needle In A Time Stack," and Jojo Siwa's movie musical "The J Team," for which she was nominated for a Children's & Family Emmy Award.



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Webpage

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Episode Summary:

We explore the journey of JJ Villar, a dancer turned motivational speaker and life coach. JJ recounts how dance served as a sanctuary and later became his driving force, and how he now applies his understanding of the human psyche to help others achieve greatness.

JJ imparts crucial advice about self-worth and integrity in one's career, highlighting the value of investing in mentorship and self-improvement. He addresses the competitive nature of the industry and the importance of authentic connections, portraying oneself as a business-savvy entrepreneur.

Navigating through industry challenges, JJ provides insight into overcoming professional obstacles and personal blockages. He advocates for the removal of toxicity from one's life and emphasizes ongoing personal development.

Concluding the episode, JJ offers actionable advice through a visualization exercise, inspiring listeners to envision and actualize their success. Full of wisdom and energizing guidance, JJ's conversation is a must-listen for artists and entrepreneurs alike, offering tools for personal and professional empowerment.

Disclaimer: This podcast episode contains discussions of sensitive topics, including suicide, which may trigger some listeners.



Show Notes:




00:03:13 - Introduction and Personal Journey


00:07:31 - Personal Development and Coaching


00:15:03 - Industry Insights and Integrity


00:17:27 - Importance of Investing in Oneself


00:19:01 - Self-Awareness Exercise


00:20:09 - Visualization and Emotional Resonance


00:27:41 - Leadership and Career Relevance


00:30:11 - Exposure and Business


00:40:38 - Industry Challenges


00:42:33 - Building Relationships


00:43:05 - Entrepreneurial Mindset


00:50:56 - Eliminating Toxicity


00:57:00 - Visualization and Final Words



Biography:

JJ Villar, born in Colombia, is a Transformational Peak Performance Coach, Motivational Speaker, Author, and Creative Artist. His early life was marred by an abusive childhood, but he found an escape and a form of self-expression through dance. This initial passion for dance served as a stepping stone for a career that would span multiple disciplines and make a significant impact on many lives.

As he matured, JJ expanded his interests into the study of human behavior and psychology. This led him to become a licensed Neuroencoding Specialist, a role in which he helps individuals transform negative self-talk into a driving force for success. His expertise in human behavior also paved the way for him to become a motivational speaker and author, roles in which he continues to inspire and guide people towards personal and professional development.

In the realm of performance, JJ is an Award-Winning World Champion performer. His talents and contributions to the arts have not only garnered him accolades but also provided a platform for him to share his insights into the entertainment industry. He is a staunch advocate for knowing one's worth and maintaining integrity, principles he applies both in his own career and in his advice to others.

JJ is also the founder of The Little Inner Critic Bootcamp, an initiative aimed at helping people overcome self-destructive behaviors and thought patterns. His approach to coaching and personal development is holistic, combining elements of psychology, performance, and business acumen.

Over the years, JJ has built a reputation for being more than just a coach or performer; he is seen as a force of resilience and determination. His work transcends the boundaries of any single discipline, making him a multifaceted asset in various fields. Whether one is an artist, an entrepreneur, or simply someone looking to unlock their full potential, JJ Villar offers a wealth of knowledge and experience.



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https://www.instagram.com/therealjjvillar/



Websites:

JJ Villar Official Website: https://jjvillar.com/

JJ Villar Coaching: ht

Episode Summary:

Jessica's story begins with her humble & late start in New York City at 19, where she discovered her passion for dance and forged meaningful connections within the dance community. Despite initially navigating the industry without an agent, Jessica's talent and perseverance led her to work with esteemed choreographers like Tina Landon and Hi Hat, paving the way for her growth as a dancer.

As Jessica reflects on her career trajectory, she emphasizes the pivotal role in the movie ´´Honey´´ as Jessica Alba’s dance double and courage in navigating the industry's challenges. 

She shares memorable moments dancing in two Super Bowls with Janet Jackson & Beyonce, The Greatest Showman, In the Heights. Amidst the glitz and glamour, Jessica emphasizes the significance of kindness, professionalism, and trust in maintaining longevity in the industry.

As the conversation delves into Jessica's transition from dancer to choreographer and educator, she offers insights into the responsibilities and qualities sought in dancers.Her journey from young dancer to choreographer, educator, and mother underscores the multifaceted nature of success in the industry, inspiring listeners to pursue their artistic ambitions with determination and authenticity.



Show Notes:




00:03 - Dance career development with industry professionals.


05:24 - Career growth in the entertainment industry.


09:22 - The importance of unity and standing up for what's right in the entertainment industry.


14:37 - Film and dance experiences with memorable moments.


19:46 - Career and life changes as an artist and dancer.


25:13 - Challenges and rewards of a career in the entertainment industry.


29:27 - The importance of professionalism and trust in the entertainment industry.


37:40 - Being a choreographer, responsibilities, and qualities sought in dancers.


41:36 - Navigating the New York dance industry, with tips on classes and studios.


47:35 - Artistic inspiration and responsibility.


53:34 - Longevity and success in the dance industry 





Biography:

Jessica Castro is an internationally acclaimed dancer and choreographer whose formal training began in New York City at the prestigious Alvin Ailey American Dance program.

She has graced stages all across the world including Superbowl Halftime Shows with Janet Jackson and Beyoncé, The World Cup in Africa, and appearing on film in the blockbuster hit “The Greatest Showman”.

Jessica has built a successful career as both a dancer and choreographer working with the likes of Jonas Brothers, Alicia Keys, Doja Cat, Rosalia, Ciara, Jennifer Hudson, Janet Jackson, Jennifer Lopez, Ricky Martin, Pharell, The Black Eyed Peas, Rihanna, Mariah Carey, Kelly Rowland, Will Smith and Mary J Blige.

From her work on the Jonas Brothers’ “What A Man Gotta Do” video to their subsequent Grammy’s Performance, to working on CBS’s new dance show, “Come Dance with Me”, and the Netflix romantic comedy, “Christmas With You”. Whether it’s film, TV, music videos, live performances, tours or artist development.

Some of Jessica’s most recent TV credits include Law & Order Organized Crime, Harlem on Amazon Prime, Step-Up Series, and The Best Man: Final Chapters on Peacock. Additionally, she has worked on a number of beauty and commercial campaigns which include M.A.C. Cosmetics “Powder Kiss” and “Love Me” campaigns as well as commercials for Kohl’s and Nine West starring Ciara. Jessica also served as assistant choreographer for the Netflix series, “The Get Down”.

Recently, Jessica was chosen as one of three contributing choreographers by the 50th annual Dance on Camera festival presented by Dance Films association and Film at Lincoln Center for “Women of The Ghetto” in collaboration with Wonderland Magazine.



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https://www.instagram.com/iliajessicacastro

https://www.facebook.com/jessica.castro.7140 

Episode Summary:

Anastasia Miller Burns offers a captivating narrative of her journey through the dance industry trenches. From her humble beginnings in studio competitions to her tenure as a talent agent and publisher, she shares invaluable insights into the multifaceted world of dance careers.

The episode kicks off with Anastasia delving into the nuances of dance industry career development, providing a roadmap for aspiring dancers looking to make their mark. Drawing from her wealth of experience, she emphasizes the importance of professionalism and business acumen in navigating the competitive landscape.

As the conversation unfolds, she reflects on her transition from dancer to executive, shedding light on her role as Vice President of Inside Dance magazine. From pitching stories to fostering face-to-face connections, she unveils the intricacies of magazine publishing and the digital transformation reshaping the industry.

The episode wraps up with a focus on career paths in dance, with insights on opportunities between LA and New York. From internship opportunities to the qualities sought in clients and employees, Anastasia leaves listeners inspired and empowered to pursue their passions in the dynamic world of dance.

Show Notes:




00:03 - Dance industry career development with insights from professionals.


01:59 - Dance career journey from studio to talent agent to magazine publisher.


05:20 - Professionalism and business skills for dancers.


08:26 - Professionalism, marketing assets, and work life as a dance industry executive.


14:37 - Building a career in the dance industry through networking and reputation.


17:33 - How to pitch stories and feature dancers in a magazine.


21:23 - Dance career development, networking, and skill-building.


28:47 - Magazine's digital transformation and international expansion.


31:58 - The fast-paced and unpredictable nature of the entertainment industry.


34:55 - Trusting oneself and continuing education in the dance industry.


43:16 - Career paths in commercial dance between LA and New York, with insights on opportunities and skills required.


46:39 - Qualities sought in clients and employees, including professionalism, passion, and creativity.


49:11 - Internship opportunities in the dance industry with a focus on hands-on training and industry insights.



Biography:

Anastasia is a former graduate and dance team captain from The Ohio State University. After graduation, Anastasia moved to Los Angeles and became a talent agent booking choreographers, dancers, actors, athletes, and models in feature films, television, commercials, music videos, Broadway productions, and world artist tours.

She was a senior agent and department director at BLOC Talent Agency LA, BLOC NYC and Clear Talent Group NYC.

For the past decade, she has joined the team at Inside Publications in Atlanta, GA as Executive Vice President and Co-Publisher of the all-access dance magazine, INSIDE DANCE. 

Anastasia has been a keynote speaker at multiple talent/teacher conventions across the US and internationally.

She’s had the honor of judging and directing for multiple talent and dance events over the past 20 years. Starting in 2010 she became part of the USASF & IASF Dance World Championships Dance Director team where she took on the role of Jazz Director overseeing the genre’s judges for jazz divisions, and as of 2013 until present, is one of the Hip Hop Directors for hip hop divisions at the Dance World Championships.

Working closely with industry professionals through the pages and media outlets of INSIDE DANCE has brought all of the years of her dance and talent business experience full circle!



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