#206: Drive | How to Build an AI-Powered $0 CAC Strategy with Kyle Coleman, CMO at Copy.ai

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This episode is from Drive 2024, our first-ever in-person event for B2B marketers in Burlington, Vermont. Kyle Coleman, CMO at Copy AI and former SVP of Marketing at Clari, hosted a session on leveraging AI to create a $0 CAC strategy that drives demand generation. With a career spanning leadership roles in B2B SaaS, Kyle brings a wealth of experience in building high-performing teams and transforming go-to-market strategies.

Kyle covers:

  • Why developing a provocative point of view is critical to differentiate your brand
  • How to build a content flywheel that aligns operations, drives consistency, and improves velocity.
  • Strategies to reduce “go-to-market bloat” and streamline processes for sustainable growth.

Timestamps

  • (00:00) - - Intro to Kyle
  • (05:36) - - Content is strategy, but most companies have bad content
  • (06:47) - - Force a choice, not a comparison
  • (09:49) - - Book recommendations for thinking about your company differently
  • (12:44) - - Identifying core problems and target audience
  • (16:03) - - What is GTM Bloat?
  • (20:07) - - Beat the friction out of your process
  • (22:11) - - How to create a demand flywheel
  • (28:44) - - Non-negotiable content types
  • (30:07) - - Real thoughts from real subject matter experts
  • (34:51) - - Harness the power of the internet
  • (36:44) - - Always-on ways to capture the demand you create
  • (40:02) - - Q&A

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