Breaking Beauty Podcast

Breaking Beauty Podcast

Get ready with us! We’re Jill and Carlene, two longtime beauty editors who have seen it all and swatched it all, and now we’re here to tell you what’s good. Whether you’re searching for the latest insider-fave foundation, building a gimmick-free skincare routine, or interested in exploring culture through a beauty lens, tune in every Wednesday for epic guests like Makeup By Mario, Dr. Pimple Popper and Jonathan Van Ness (say what?!) Plus, don’t miss our monthly #DamnGood reviews of trending drugstore and spendy finds that are worth the $$$ – you’re glowing already!

  1. Ashley Tisdale On Tackling Anxiety, Why She Has Zero Regrets About Breast Explant Surgery and Exclusive Details on Her New, Under $15 Hair Care Range, Being Frenshe

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    Ashley Tisdale On Tackling Anxiety, Why She Has Zero Regrets About Breast Explant Surgery and Exclusive Details on Her New, Under $15 Hair Care Range, Being Frenshe

    *Recorded in advance of the Los Angeles Wildfires, we’re welcoming actress, singer, mother and entrepreneur Ashley Tisdale. The triple threat has been working in entertainment since she was just three years old, notably as “Sharpay Evans” in High School Musical and as “Maddie Fitzpatrick” in Disney Channel’s The Suite Life of Zack and Cody.   As the nostalgia Queen expands her accessible, clean, lifestyle brand – Being Frenshe –  into haircare, we get the scoop on the difference-making self-care practices that Ashley abides by as part of her daily routine, the tools that help to best manage her anxiety and what creative projects Ashley is planning next. Plus, you’ll hear about:Plastic surgery – How Ashley really feels about her breast explant surgery nowStory time! Why the star’s daughter thinks that Zac Efron might be her dad?!  Celebrity secrets! The beloved skincare musts on Ashley’s topshelf… and the *one* discontinued mascara that she wishes would come backEntrepreneurship real talk. Why a previous failed business venture had her thinking twice before diving in a second timeSupport our LA community! Join us in helping those affected by the 2025 California Wildfires by visiting redcross.org, calling 1-800-RED CROSS (800-733-2767) or texting the word CAWILDFIRES to 90999 to make a donation.  Watch this episode on our YouTube channel and Subscribe Get social with us and let us know what you think of the episode! find us on Instagram, Tiktok, Twitter. Join our private Facebook group. Or give us a call and leave us a voicemail at 1-844-227-0302.   Sign up for our newsletter here    For any products or links mentioned in this episode, check out our website: https://breakingbeautypodcast.com/episode-recaps/    Related episodes like this: Hailey Bieber on What She’ll Glaze Next, Nail Secrets and The One Thing That No One Knows About HerKate Hudson’s Secrets to Glowing From The Inside-Out Tracee Ellis Ross Shares Her Ageless Skincare Secrets, Deets On The New Hair Tales Documentary and The Skincare That’s on her Top Shelf      PROMO CODES:  When you support our sponsors, you support the creation of Breaking Beauty Podcast!   Quip The new Quip 360 Oscillating Toothbrush literally revolves around you. Just for Breaking Beauty listeners, Quip is offering 20% off sitewide and a FREE travel case and countertop stand at Getquip.com/beauty  Firs​​t Aid Beauty ​​Visit firstaidbeauty.com/beauty to get 20% off our First Aid Beauty favourites, like the Facial Radiance Pads, The KP Bump Eraser Body Scrub and more.  Nutrafol Nutrafol is the #1 dermatologist-recommended hair growth supplement brand, trusted by over 1 million people. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code BREAKING.  *Disclaimer: Unless otherwise stated, all products reviewed are gratis media samples submitted for editorial consideration.*    Hosts: Carlene Higgins and Jill Dunn  Theme song, used with permission: Cherry Bomb by Saya
  Produced by Dear Media Studio  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    52 min
  2. Future of Beauty: A Chemist Predicts The Next Niacinamide, What The Beauty Biz Change-Makers Are Banking On Now and The Reason “Inflammaging” Will Be The Word on Everyone’s Lips This Year

    8 JANV.

    Future of Beauty: A Chemist Predicts The Next Niacinamide, What The Beauty Biz Change-Makers Are Banking On Now and The Reason “Inflammaging” Will Be The Word on Everyone’s Lips This Year

    In partnership with our friends at Deinde, we’re getting the ultimate insider intel on what the future of beauty will really look like. Joshua Britton is the scientist and CEO of Debut Biotech, a San Diego-based, vertically integrated brand incubator that earned $40 million in Series B funding led by L’Oréal. Find out about the next-level skincare innovation that L’Oréal brands is banking on next, why we should all be tuned into “inflammaging” and our skin – zillennials included! – plus, everything to know about the first skincare range to launch with the patented technology, Deinde. Tune in to learn: What is “inflammaging”? Plus, how to reset your skin to neutral Too good to be true? Meet “naringenin,” the scientifically-proven, powerhouse polyphenol that promises to be 15x as effective as niacinamideWhy Joshua believes that “longevity skincare” is the next big thing in beauty What does biotech really mean? Will small-scale farmers go out of business? And will vegan skincare become a thing of the past?Why Deinde’s Moisture-Locking Face Stick might be your new winter must  Get social with us and let us know what you think of the episode! Find us on Instagram, Tiktok, Twitter. Join our private Facebook group, or give us a call and leave us a voicemail at 1-844-227-0302.     For any products or links mentioned in this episode, check out our website: https://breakingbeautypodcast.com/episode-recaps/    Related episodes like this: “Chaotic Skin,” Grading Your Skin Age & Are Single-Ingredient Serums Over? With Olay Principal Scientist Dr. Rolanda WilkersonHow-To Find a Sunscreen You Can Really Trust With Dr. Michelle Wong, AKA Lab Muffin Beauty ScienceThe Ultimate Guide to Face Serums With Dr. Sam Bunting: Find The Right One for Your Skin Type, Layering Tips and How Much $$$ You Should Spend!   PROMO CODE:  When you support our sponsors, you support the creation of Breaking Beauty Podcast!   DEINDE DEINDE is the first and only skincare line to harness Naringenin through biotechnology in their four products - Purifying Whipped Cleanser, Skin-Strengthening Serum, Moisture-Locking Face Stick, Barrier-Building Moisture Cream.For listeners based in the US, visit DEINDE.com and use code BEAUTY for 15% off your next purchase. For listeners in Canada, visit rennai.com to purchase DEINDE products.  Nutrafol Nutrafol is the #1 dermatologist-recommended hair growth supplement brand, trusted by over 1 million people. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code BREAKING.  *Disclaimer: Unless otherwise stated, all products reviewed are gratis media samples submitted for editorial consideration.*    Hosts: Carlene Higgins and Jill Dunn  Theme song, used with permission: Cherry Bomb by Saya
  Produced by Dear Media Studio See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    45 min
  3. The Top 12 #DamnGood Esthetician-Formulated Skincare Products For Every Step of Your Routine, Tested!

    1 JANV.

    The Top 12 #DamnGood Esthetician-Formulated Skincare Products For Every Step of Your Routine, Tested!

    Happy New Year! We’re kicking off 2025 with an ode to facialists, as we put esthetician-developed skincare lines to the test. Listen in to find out which formulas really work - from the best hyperpigmentation serums to acne-busting treatments, at-home resurfacing peels and more.  Tune in to hear about:The made-in-Korea Vitamin C serum designed by ”Paris’ Most-Wanted Facialist,” whose clients include Caroline de Maigret and Lou DoillonStraight from the UK, a cashmere-like SPF favoured by Victoria BeckhamThe skincare “polish” reboot developed by a Gen Z esthetician/influencer with over one million followersThe Sabrina-Carpenter-approved gentle exfoliating mask that’s like a shot of espresso for our face, ha!A glycolic-acid based cleanser that Hollywood celebs have relied on to keep skin clear since 1994 (including Kendall Jenner, most recently)The $$$ sheet mask developed by Queen of Estheticians, Joanna Czech  Get social with us and let us know what you think of the episode! Subscribe to our YouTube channel and find us on Instagram, Tiktok, Twitter. Join our private Facebook group. Or give us a call and leave us a voicemail at 1-844-227-0302.   Sign up for our newsletter here    To shop this episode, click here: https://breakingbeautypodcast.com/episode-recaps/    Related episodes like this: “Take It To The Tits!” & More Healthy Skin Commandments With Caroline HironsThe Grown-Up’s Guide to Treating Adult Acne (Cystic Breakouts + Fine Lines + Scarring, Ugh!) With Celebrity Esthetician Renée RouleauHow a K-Beauty Esthetician Gets Her Skin So Glassy with Peach & Lily Founder Alicia Yoon  PROMO CODES:  When you support our sponsors, you support the creation of Breaking Beauty Podcast!   Medik8 Medik8 is a clinically proven British skincare brand known for age-defying results. Visit Medik8.us for 20% off your first order with code BEAUTY at checkout.    *Disclaimer: Unless otherwise stated, all products reviewed are gratis media samples submitted for editorial consideration.*    Hosts: Carlene Higgins and Jill Dunn  Theme song, used with permission: Cherry Bomb by Saya
  Produced by Dear Media Studio  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    53 min
  4. 2024-12-25

    Replay! Are You Applying Your Foundation The Right Way? How-to Find the Perfect Shade, Formula, Layering Tips and More With Beyonce’s Makeup Artist Sir John

    Replay! The go-to makeup artist to Beyonce, Sir John is the legend responsible for some of her most iconic beauty looks, including her historical Vogue cover and showstopping Bey-chella performance. Today, the Creative Director at Killian is spilling all of his base-perfecting secrets, from how-to avoid patchy, separating foundation, why he isn’t a fan of “baking” and he reveals which foundations he *personally* stocks in his makeup kit. Plus, you’ll discover: Sir John’s fave skincare products to prep skin before foundation - whether you’re oily or dryThe key to unlocking the best performance from your foundation brushes (it’s all about those fluffy shapes, baby!)His number one, surprising tool for lifting excess oil from your faceThe drugstore foundation shopping tip we didn’t know we needed Get social with us and let us know what you think of the episode! Find us on Instagram, Tiktok, Twitter. Join our private Facebook group, or give us a call and leave us a voicemail at 1-844-227-0302.  For any products or links mentioned in this episode, check out our website: https://breakingbeautypodcast.com/episode-recaps/ Related episodes:Are You Applying Your Concealer the Right Way? Celeb Makeup Artist Jamie Greenberg Shares Her Best Tips For Disguising Puffiness, Covering Acne & Finding Your Magic PotionLessons in Eye Makeup Magic with Olivia Wilde’s Makeup Artist Jo BakerMakeup by Mario Shares the New Makeup Rules  PROMO CODES:  When you support our sponsors, you support the creation of Breaking Beauty Podcast!  Masterclass Masterclass always has great offers during the holidays, sometimes as much as 50% off. Head over to MASTERCLASS.com/BEAUTY for the current offer. Heliocare Heliocare Daily Use Antioxidant Formula is a clinically proven, plant-derived supplement recommended by dermatologists across the country. Visit LovelySkin.com/HCBB15 and use code HCBB15 at checkout for 15% off your Heliocare purchase. *Disclaimer: Unless otherwise stated, all products reviewed are gratis media samples submitted for editorial consideration.* Hosts: Carlene Higgins and Jill Dunn Theme song, used with permission: Cherry Bomb by Saya
 Produced by Dear Media Studio See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    47 min
  5. Live Podcast! Dupe Culture, Wellness Musts, Skincare That Makes a Difference and *The* Colour We’ll All Be Wearing in 2025 with Tastemaking Style and Beauty Founders Jenny Bird and Laney Crowell

    2024-12-18

    Live Podcast! Dupe Culture, Wellness Musts, Skincare That Makes a Difference and *The* Colour We’ll All Be Wearing in 2025 with Tastemaking Style and Beauty Founders Jenny Bird and Laney Crowell

    Live from NYC, it’s our very first *live* podcast! Direct from the buzzing, beautiful and chestnut-walled Jenny Bird pop-up shop in NoLita, welcome to our fireside chat with Jenny Bird, the creative force, CEO and founder of the eponymous jewelry and lifestyle brand, Jenny Bird, and the founder of clean beauty brand, Saie, Laney Crowell.  Listen in as these two powerhouse thought leaders share their secrets to creating aspirational, ageless and sustainable brands, dealing with dupe culture and finding balance as busy moms and super-entrepreneurs in the process. Plus, we discuss: Holiday dressing – the creative new way to update your LBD for a totally fresh spin this yearThe piercing-free way to rock ear cuffs this seasonThe crowd-pleasing gifts topping the tastemakers’ shopping lists The top three beauty essentials that Jenny and Laney find make the most difference in their personal beauty routines What the founders are most looking forward to for 2025 A special thanks to Jenny Bird who hosted us at the brand’s first-ever retail location, The Shop in New York at 21 Spring Street. The Shop is open until December 22, 2024 so there’s still time to come and check it out in person, and of course you can always shop online at jenny-bird.com. And thank you to our audience who turned up in person – it was the best holiday gift ever meeting all of you!  Subscribe and watch this episode on our YouTube channel  Get social with us and let us know what you think of the episode! Subscribe to our YouTube channel and find us on Instagram, Tiktok, Twitter. Join our private Facebook group. Or give us a call and leave us a voicemail at 1-844-227-0302.   Sign up for our newsletter here    For any products or links mentioned in this episode, check out our website: https://breakingbeautypodcast.com/episode-recaps/    Related episodes like this: Saie Founder Laney Crowell On What Clean Beauty Means Now, Building Best-In-Class Formulas & Introducing “The Concealer From The Future”Tata Harper Skincare Founder Tata HarperCaudalie Skincare Founder Mathilde Thomas PROMO CODES:  When you support our sponsors, you support the creation of Breaking Beauty Podcast!   Nutrafol Nutrafol is the #1 dermatologist-recommended hair growth supplement brand, trusted by over 1 million people. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code BREAKING.   Quince Gift luxury this holiday season without the luxury price tag. Go to Quince.com/beauty for 365-day returns, plus free shipping on your order.   *Disclaimer: Unless otherwise stated, all products reviewed are gratis media samples submitted for editorial consideration.*    Hosts: Carlene Higgins and Jill Dunn  Theme song, used with permission: Cherry Bomb by Saya
  Produced by Dear Media Studio  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    43 min
  6. Why This Under $30 Skincare Keeps Going Viral, pH Matters & The Lore of Brandon Truaxe with Indeed Labs co-Founder Dimitra Davidson

    2024-12-11

    Why This Under $30 Skincare Keeps Going Viral, pH Matters & The Lore of Brandon Truaxe with Indeed Labs co-Founder Dimitra Davidson

    This week, we’re sharing the lore behind a sleeper hit brand that keeps going viral for its affordable, effective skincare, Indeed Labs. Sit in as Co-founder, President and CEO, Dimitra Davidson reflects on 15 years in the biz, taking us back to where it all began, with the late Brandon Truaxe, before an incident that would lead to his departure, and his own entrepreneurial journey with Deciem and The Ordinary. You’ll discover: The story behind Indeed Labs’ very first product, a pioneering blurring cream created 15 years ago, that’s still going viral with beauty influencers todayDimitra’s candid take on the company’s early split from controversial figure Brandon Truaxe, on the cusp of an upcoming documentary on his lifeDetails on the founder’s sophomore skincare brand, pH-in, and why its approach to acne care is unmatched – and free of harsh actives like benzoyl peroxide What the Indeed Labs president has up her sleeve for 2025  Get social with us and let us know what you think of the episode! Subscribe to our YouTube channel and find us on Instagram, Tiktok, Twitter. Join our private Facebook group. Or give us a call and leave us a voicemail at 1-844-227-0302.   Sign up for our newsletter here    For any products or links mentioned in this episode, check out our website: https://breakingbeautypodcast.com/episode-recaps/    Related episodes like this:  Deciem and The Ordinary Founder Brandon Truaxe, In His Own WordsHow-To Break Out of a Makeup Rut With Euphora Makeup Artist Donni DavyQueen of the 60-Second Review, Glamzilla   PROMO CODES: Support our show by supporting our sponsors! OUAI Get on your OUAI to save for the holiday. Go to theouai.com for 15% off site wide and enter promo code BEAUTY15. HILL HOUSE HOME Get 15% off your order of $100 or more at hillhousehome.com with code BEAUTY15.  QUIP Free your mouth today and save 20% site wide, plus, a FREE travel case and countertop stand at getquip.com/beauty.  HELIOCARE Heliocare Daily Use Antioxidant Formula is a clinically proven, plant-derived supplement recommended by dermatologists across the country to provide an extra layer of skin defense and help maintain healthy skin. Visit LovelySkin.com/HCBB15 and use code HCBB15 at checkout for 15% off your Heliocare purchase. *Disclaimer: Unless otherwise stated, all products reviewed are gratis media samples submitted for editorial consideration.*    Hosts: Carlene Higgins and Jill Dunn  Theme song, used with permission: Cherry Bomb by Saya
  Produced by Dear Media Studio  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    51 min
  7. The Ultimate Sensitive Skin Girls’ Guide: Transitioning to a Winter Skincare Routine, “Barrier Bulking” and The Ingredients That *Really* Make a Difference with First Aid Beauty’s Jenna Haley

    2024-12-06

    The Ultimate Sensitive Skin Girls’ Guide: Transitioning to a Winter Skincare Routine, “Barrier Bulking” and The Ingredients That *Really* Make a Difference with First Aid Beauty’s Jenna Haley

    This week's uninterrupted bonus episode is brought to you in partnership with First Aid Beauty. Barrier-boosting szn is here and the sensitive skin girlies are gathering to share our secrets for maintaining peak skin barrier health all winter long.  Joining us is First Aid Beauty Global Brand Educator, Jenna Haley, who struggled with rosacea and eczema since childhood before learning to manage her routine successfully as a beauty insider at Estée Lauder and Birchbox before landing at sensitive skin authority, FAB. You’ll hear about:How to transition to a winter skincare routine that will protect your skin barrier all season long What “colloidal” oatmeal is exactly, and why this humble soothing ingredient has stood the test of timeWhy Jenna has us re-thinking silicone as an effective soothing ingredientHow to treat acne, hyperpigmentation and signs of aging effectively, while keeping sensitivity at bayThe skincare habits that really make a difference, beyond creams and lotions  For any products or links mentioned in this episode, check out our website: https://breakingbeautypodcast.com/episode-recaps/  Housekeeping note: You’re invited to join us in New York City on Monday December 9th for a live podcast recording featuring the Founder of Jenny Bird Jewellery, Jenny Bird, and the founder of Saie Beauty, Laney Crowell. Hear an inspiring conversation - and take home a gift bag of beauty and style goodies worth $150! Click here for more details and to RSVP (space is extremely limited!)    Related episodes like this: The Sensitive Skin Must-Have Products We Use OurselvesWatch on Youtube! The Skincare Products to Save and Splurge on According to Celebrity Esthetician Candace Marino Derm Terms Decoded: “Peau D’Orange,” “Microdosing” Accutane and “Demodex”?! Dermatologist Dr. Samantha Ellis Shares What You Need to Know Before Your Next Appointment   PROMO CODES:  When you support our sponsors, you support the creation of Breaking Beauty Podcast!     First Aid Beauty Upgrade your moisturizer with First Aid Beauty’s iconic Ultra Repair Cream – shop online and learn more about all of their products made for sensitive skin!  Visit FirstAidBeauty.com/BEAUTY and use our promo code BEAUTY to get 20% off.  Get social with us and let us know what you think of the episode! Find us on Instagram, Tiktok, Twitter. Join our private Facebook group, or give us a call and leave us a voicemail at 1-844-227-0302.   *Disclaimer: Unless otherwise stated, all products reviewed are gratis media samples submitted for editorial consideration.*    Hosts: Carlene Higgins and Jill Dunn  Theme song, used with permission: Cherry Bomb by Saya
  Produced by Dear Media Studio  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    39 min
  8. How-To Build The Perfect 2025 Capsule Wardrobe (Plus, The Essential Beauty Products To Match!) With Liv Perez

    2024-12-04

    How-To Build The Perfect 2025 Capsule Wardrobe (Plus, The Essential Beauty Products To Match!) With Liv Perez

    Housekeeping note: Join us in New York City on Monday December 9th for a live podcast recording featuring the Founder of Jenny Bird Jewellery, Jenny Bird, and the founder of Saie Beauty, Laney Crowell. Click here for more details and to RSVP (space is extremely limited!)  Liv Perez is a style aficionado, content creator and host of the chart-topping style podcast Let’s Get Dressed. Known for her impeccable taste, Liv is also a style contributor to NBC’s Today Show and a regular in the front row at fashion weeks around the world.  This week, Liv is coaching us on how-to build the perfect capsule wardrobe in 2025 – the shoes, the bag, the jeans – expertly blending her signature, high/low mix. Plus, we find out what’s on Liv’s top shelf, everything from her 365-day signature manicure shade to the brow product she never leaves home without. You’ll find out: The denim that Liv is living in all week long, along with our picks on the goes-with-everything “blue jeans of makeup”What to wear to work in the year ahead: the tailored black pant, the blazer, the essential white tee and more essentials that Liv lovesThe “it” shoe of the moment, mercifully still comfortable as we stride into 2025What to wear to all of those cocktail parties this holiday season – we link to Liv’s exact fave festive staplesThe blush shade that Liv wore to her wedding, her brow musts and the everyday lipstick she uses non-stop Tune in to hear us on Let’s Get Dressed podcast on Monday, December 9th when we’ll be chatting about our favourite people, products and moments in beauty this year, and what we’re looking forward to most in 2025 For any products or links mentioned in this episode, check out our website: https://breakingbeautypodcast.com/episode-recaps/    Related episodes like this:  Everyday Elegant Makeup With Molly Sims and Emese Gormley of Lipstick On The Rim PodcastEverything Matilda Djerf Touches Turns to GoldFashion Content Creator & Phlur Founder Chriselle Lim  PROMO CODES:  When you support our sponsors, you support the creation of Breaking Beauty Podcast!   Hill House Home Hill House Home invented the viral Nap Dress. Get 15% off your order of $100 or more at hillhousehome.com with code BEAUTY15.  Heliocare Heliocare Daily Use Antioxidant Formula is a clinically proven, plant-derived supplement recommended by dermatologists across the country. Visit LovelySkin.com/HCBB15 and use code HCBB15 at checkout for 15% off your Heliocare purchase. Masterclass Masterclass always has great offers during the holidays, sometimes up to as much as 50% off. Head over to MASTERCLASS.com/BEAUTY for the current offer. Get social with us and let us know what you think of the episode! Find us on Instagram, Tiktok, Twitter. Join our private Facebook group, or give us a call and leave us a voicemail at 1-844-227-0302.     *Disclaimer: Unless otherwise stated, all products reviewed are gratis media samples submitted for editorial consideration.*    Hosts: Carlene Higgins and Jill Dunn  Theme song, used with permission: Cherry Bomb by Saya
  Produced by Dear Media Studio  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Get ready with us! We’re Jill and Carlene, two longtime beauty editors who have seen it all and swatched it all, and now we’re here to tell you what’s good. Whether you’re searching for the latest insider-fave foundation, building a gimmick-free skincare routine, or interested in exploring culture through a beauty lens, tune in every Wednesday for epic guests like Makeup By Mario, Dr. Pimple Popper and Jonathan Van Ness (say what?!) Plus, don’t miss our monthly #DamnGood reviews of trending drugstore and spendy finds that are worth the $$$ – you’re glowing already!

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