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True crime, legends, folklore, dark history and other creepy topics from the perspective of real live Canadians.

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True crime, legends, folklore, dark history and other creepy topics from the perspective of real live Canadians.

    Summer Tragedy: The 2018 Fredericton Shooting

    Summer Tragedy: The 2018 Fredericton Shooting

    Episode 321: On August 10, 2018, the city of Fredericton, New Brunswick, was rocked by a horrific shooting that left four people dead. A man armed with a legally obtained assault-style rifle opened fire in a residential neighbourhood, killing two police officers and two civilians. Constables Robb Costello, 45, and Sara Burns, 43, were gunned down as they responded to reports of shots being fired. The civilian victims were 42-year-old Donnie Robichaud and his girlfriend, 32-year-old Bobbie Lee Wright.
    The perpetrator, 48-year-old Matthew Vincent Raymond, was arrested at the scene after exchanging gunfire with other officers. He was charged with four counts of first-degree murder. Raymond was charged with four counts of first-degree murder. At his 2020 trial, two psychiatrists testified that he had a mental disorder that rendered him incapable of understanding his violent actions at the time they were committed. On November 20, 2020, after a nine-week trial, a jury found Raymond not criminally responsible due to a mental disorder. Many members of the public, including some members of the victims’ families, feel justice was not served.
    Sources:
    City of Fredericton
    237 Brookside Dr · 237 Brookside Dr, Fredericton, NB E3A 1V3
    A summary of the Matthew Raymond quadruple murder trial
    ‘I am just shaking:’ What people saw and heard during Fredericton shooting
    Canada Police Say at Least 4 Dead in Shooting
    How the Fredericton shooting unfolded | CBC News
    A timeline of the deadly shooting in Fredericton
    Police update on Fredericton shooting
    Cst. Lawrence Robert “Robb” Costello
    Cst. Sara Mae Helen Burns
    Donnie Robichaud, father of 3, identified as victim in Fredericton shooting
    Obituary information for Bobbie Lee Wright
    Fredericton pair killed in shooting spree had just begun dating, friends and relatives say
    Thousands attend funeral service for Fredericton officers who made ‘the ultimate sacrifice’
    ‘It was hard to calm him down,’ says former colleague of alleged Fredericton shooter
    Husband of slain Fredericton officer Cst. Sara Burns bids tearful goodbye | YouTube
    Fredericton police chief chokes up remembering her fallen officers | YouTube
    RCMP officers describe chaotic moments after they burst into Fredericton shooter’s apartment
    Jury finds Fredericton shooter Matthew Raymond not criminally responsible
    https://publications.gc.ca/Pilot/LoPBdP/BP/prb9922-e.htm
    http://criminalnotebook.ca/index.php/Not_Criminally_Responsible_Due_to_Mental_Disorder
    https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/csj-sjc/jsp-sjp/rr06_1/p1.html
    https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/rsrcs/pblctns/2023-r001/index-en.aspx
    https://educaloi.qc.ca/en/capsules/not-criminally-responsible-mental-illness/
    https://www.canlii.org/en/commentary/doc/2023CanLIIDocs2081?resultId=8be757e84fed4313b03096185340c5fe&resultIndex=1&searchId=bc7cff8923204edf99f182a027c5a315
    https://www.legalline.ca/legal-answers/firearm-possession-and-acquisition-licence-pal/
    https://ottawafirearmsafety.ca/pal-application/
    https://fseso.org/courses/
    https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firearms/canadian-residents
    Matthew Vincent Raymond | News, Videos & Articles | Global News
    2018 Fredericton shooting
    A Legal History of the Regulation of Assault-Style Rifles in Canada
    Chinese SKS Semi-Automatic Rifle
    Firearms expert says rifle used in Fredericton shooting designed 'to kill,' mostly used for hunting | CBC News
    Man who killed four people in Fredericton denied new privileges by review board
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    • 1 hr 21 min
    All That Remains: The Murder of Mary-Lynn Breeden

    All That Remains: The Murder of Mary-Lynn Breeden

    Episode 320: In 1991, the city of Vancouver was rocked by the brutal murder of 29-year-old Mary-Lynn Kimberly Breeden. Friends and family called her Lynn. The charred remains of her body were discovered in a dumpster, with a single bullet wound to the skull. What followed was a complex investigation that would uncover a web of deceit, greed, and cold-blooded violence.
    Through witness accounts, advances in forensic evidence, and detailed police work, detectives were able to piece together the chilling details of Breeden's final moments. Their investigation led them to a suspect named Christian Albert Cruz, a male stripper with a history of violence.
    As the case unfolded, a tragic tale of betrayal and desperation began to emerge, shedding light on the dark motivations that drove one man to commit such a heinous act. Join us as we delve into the story of the murder of Lynn Breeden and explore the complex human emotions and societal factors that can lead to such senseless violence.
    Sources:
    Mary-Lynn Breeden - Search - Newspapers.com™
    Mary-Lynn Kimberly “Lynn” Breeden (1960-1991) -...
    No5 Orange - Dance and Pub Showroom - Vancouver’s famous Gastown
    Fraser Arms Hotel
    Watch V6A - A feature documentary by Ruggero Romano Online | Vimeo On Demand
    1995 CanLII 523 (BC CA) | R. v. Cruz | CanLII
    1998 CanLII 5951 (BC CA) | R. v. Cruz | CanLII
    The Murder of Mary Lynn Breeden
    The Use of Forensic Odontology to Solve a Forensic Science Case - Free Essay Example - Edubirdie
    Biography - Linda Agostini - Australian Dictionary of Biography
    The Charred Remains of Lynn Breeden
    Dental color measurement to predict DNA concentration in incinerated teeth for human identification. - Abstract - Europe PMC
    Saferstein, Richard. Criminalistics: an Introduction to Forensic Science. Pearson, 2017 edition.
    "Forensic Files" Charred Remains (TV Episode 1997)
    Forensic Files - Season 2, Episode 8 - Charred Remains - Full Episode
    Forensic Wheels: Christian Albert Cruz' 1980 Oldsmobile Omega (Lynn Breeden Death Car)
    Mary-Lynn Kimberly “Lynn” Breeden (1960-1991) -...
    Effect of Fire on DNA and its profiling in homicide cases
    Identifying Maui fire victims will depend heavily on DNA
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    • 1 hr 7 min
    Shadows of Deception (Part 3): The Murder of Wayne Millard

    Shadows of Deception (Part 3): The Murder of Wayne Millard

    Episode 319: In the first two parts of our Shadows of Deception series, we delved into the abysmal depths of depravity exhibited by Dellen Millard and Mark Smich through the heinous murders of Tim Bosma and Laura Babcock.
    With Millard and Smich already incarcerated for their previous atrocities, a new investigation was launched into the 2012 death of Dellen's father, Wayne Millard, a wealthy aviation businessman. Initially presumed to be a suicide, the circumstances surrounding his demise came under intense scrutiny after his son's sensational arrests for the Bosma and Babcock murders.
    After their investigation, authorities arrested Dellen Millard and charged him with the first-degree murder of his father. This shocking twist cast a sinister shadow over the already grim narrative, painting Dellen Millard as a far more depraved criminal than initially realized – one willing to extinguish even the life of his own flesh and blood. It appears that Dellen Millard is a cold-blooded individual who would stop at nothing to get what he wanted.
    Sources:
    Search: Dellen Millard | Canadian Legal Information Institute | CanLII
    2018 ONSC 5602 (CanLII) | R. v. Millard | CanLII
    CBC News | Wayward Son
    Dellen Millard | News, Videos & Articles | GlobalNews
    Letters Between Dellen Millard and Christina Noudga | PDF
    Serial killer Dellen Millard found guilty in prison stabbing incident
    Serial killer Dellen Millard gets one year in prison for role in prison stabbing | CBC News
    Ontario's top court dismisses Millard, Smich conviction appeals in murder of Hamilton's Tim Bosma | CBC News
    Serial killer Dellen Millard says he's too smart a crook to commit 'sloppy' Tim Bosma murder
    Rosie DiManno: Dellen Millard, convicted of first-degree murder in killing of Tim Bosma, Laura Babcock, is now on trial in the death of his father
    Millard murder ruled a suicide inside two days
    The Case of Serial Killer Dellen Millard
    In jailhouse interview, Dellen Millard admits for first time he had a part in Tim Bosma’s murder
    Killer Mark Smich’s move to medium-security prison outrages victims’ families
    Ann Brocklehurst, Dark Ambition: The Shocking Crime of Dellen Millard & Mark Smich. 
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    • 1 hr 11 min
    Shadows of Deception (Part 2): The Murder of Laura Babcock

    Shadows of Deception (Part 2): The Murder of Laura Babcock

    Episode 318: In the previous episode, we explored the shocking murder of Tim Bosma and the subsequent trial that brought two killers to justice. However, their trail of violence did not end there. In this second installment of our three-part series, we delve into the tragic case of Laura Babcock, 23, whose July 2012 disappearance from Toronto was eventually attributed to Dellen Millard and Mark Smich. We'll learn a bit about Laura’s life and examine the circumstances surrounding her vanishing and the painstaking yet unsuccessful search efforts to uncover her remains. You’ll hear disturbing details that emerged during the trial for her murder, shedding even more light on the twisted dynamics between Millard, Smich, and their unfortunate victim. This episode serves as a prelude to the final chapter, where we'll explore the most shocking revelation of all, that Dellen Millard also killed his father, Wayne, for his money.
    Sources:
    Search — Laura Babcock | Toronto Star
    Laura Babcock had an intense fear of death since childhood, court hears in murder trial for Dellen Millard and Mark Smich
    Laura Babcock had intense fear of death since childhood, court hears
    Toronto family receives death certificate years after daughter was murdered
    Who was Laura Babcock? A look into her life as the trial into her presumed death continues | CBC News
    Dellen Millard, Mark Smich found guilty of murder in Laura Babcock’s death
    What the jury didn't hear in the Laura Babcock murder trial
    Laura Babcock, horoscope for birth date 12 February 1989, born in Etobicoke, with Astrodatabank biography
    Dec 12, 2019, page A30 - Red Deer Advocate at Newspapers.com
    Dec 07, 2017, page 2 - The Toronto Star at Newspapers.com
    2015 ONSC 6206 (CanLII) | R. v Millard and Smich | CanLII
    2017 ONSC 7584 (CanLII) | R. v. Millard | CanLII
    R. v. Ward-Jackson, (2018) O.J. No. 163 | PDF | Sentence (Law) | Crime & Violence
    2018 ONSC 178 (CanLII) | R. v. Ward-Jackson | CanLII
    2018 ONSC 5602 (CanLII) | R. v. Millard | CanLII
    2023 ONCA 418 (CanLII) | R. v. Millard | CanLII
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    • 1 hr 2 min
    Shadows of Deception (Part 1): The Murder of Tim Bosma

    Shadows of Deception (Part 1): The Murder of Tim Bosma

    Episode 317: Tim Bosma, a 32-year-old family man from Ancaster, Ontario, went missing in May 2013 after taking two men for a test drive of his truck. The two men were later identified as Dellen Millard, a 27-year-old heir to a Canadian aviation empire, and Mark Smich, a 24-year-old drug dealer and aspiring rapper. This case would expose the disturbing reality of Millard and Smich's cold-blooded violence and web of deceit.
    The investigation into Bosma's disappearance was just the beginning of uncovering the harrowing events surrounding Millard and Smich. In 2012, before Bosma's murder, they had killed Millard's 23-year-old ex-girlfriend, Laura Babcock. Later that same year, they shockingly took the life of Dellen's father, Wayne Millard.
    As the details of the Tim Bosma case unfold, the stage is set for the equally horrific events of the murders of Laura Babcock and Wayne Millard to come to light in parts 2 and 3 of this true crime series. The disturbing stories of these two killers, Dellen Millard and Mark Smich, reveal a chilling trail of devastation left for the families and communities impacted by their callous acts of violence.
    Sources:
    Tim Bosma: A timeline of the police investigation and murder trial
    Cellphone records to play big role in Tim Bosma murder trial | CBC News
    The Murder of Tim Bosma : The Devil Had a Name | CBC News
    Kijiji Statement
    Millard roommate testifies about visiting hangar on day Bosma disappeared | CBC News
    Hundreds attend Tim Bosma memorial service
    Wife of Tim Bosma pleads for his safe return - Toronto
    Clairmont: Whatever it takes to find Tim Bosma
    Hamilton will always remember Tim Bosma
    Tim Bosma remembered: father, husband, son and friend | CBC News
    Everything We Learned at the Tim Bosma Murder Trial
    Tim Bosma: The beginning. and the end
    ‘We have waited for justice’: Tim Bosma’s widow speaks Millard, Smich guilty verdict | Watch News Videos Online
    Tim Bosma Found Dead | Global News | YouTube
    Bosma Murder Charge | Global News | YouTube
    Search: Dellen Millard | Canadian Legal Information Institute | CanLII
    2015 ONSC 6206 (CanLII) | R. v Millard and Smich | CanLII
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    • 1 hr 5 min
    Morning Run Cut Short: The Murder of Marguerite Telesford

    Morning Run Cut Short: The Murder of Marguerite Telesford

    Episode 316: On January 18, 1987, 20-year-old University of Victoria student Marguerite Telesford disappeared during a morning jog in Saanich, British Columbia. Her bloody earmuffs, bloodstains, a discharged shotgun shell, and a pry bar were found, suggesting foul play, but her body was never located. In 1989, Scott Ian MacKay was convicted of second-degree murder concerning Telesford's death despite maintaining his innocence. MacKay had a history of violent assaults on women. Recently, after serving a life sentence, MacKay was controversially granted day parole, raising concerns from the community and victim advocates about public safety risks and his lack of remorse.
    Sources:
    Marguerite Telesford - Mount Doug Alumni Association
    Archive dive: The 1987 murder of a UVic student who vanished on her morning run
    The 35th Anniversary of the Saanich Indian Territorial Declaration
    Neighbourhood History Tillicum
    "Marguerite Telesford" - Search - Newspapers.com™
    1988 CanLII 2888 (BC SC) | B.C. (A.G.) v. Pac. Press Ltd. | CanLII
    1992 CanLII 5990 (BC CA) | R. v. MacKay | CanLII
    Dead Ends: B.C. Crime Stories
    CANADA - Marguerite Telesford, Missing since January 18, 1987 from Saanich, Victoria, BC; 2nd degree murder conviction
    Jack Knox: Marguerite Telesford murder a story without end
    Jan 20, 1987, page 1 - The Vancouver Sun at Newspapers.com
    Jan 20, 1987, page 3 - The Province at Newspapers.com
    Jan 21, 1987, page 8 - The Leader-Post at Newspapers.com
    Jan 22, 1987, page 4 - The Province at Newspapers.com
    Jan 23, 1987, page 3 - Times Colonist at Newspapers.com
    Apr 14, 1988, page 1 - Times Colonist at Newspapers.com
    Apr 21, 1988, page 1 - Times Colonist at Newspapers.com
    Jan 19, 1989, page 12 - The Province at Newspapers.com
    Jan 19, 1989, page 1 - Times Colonist at Newspapers.com
    Jan 19, 1989, page 9 - The Vancouver Sun at Newspapers.com
    Jan 25, 1989, page 5 - The Province at Newspapers.com
    Jan 25, 1989, page 13 - The Vancouver Sun at Newspapers.com
    Jan 26, 1989, page 11 - Times Colonist at Newspapers.com
    Jan 28, 1989, page 9 - The Vancouver Sun at Newspapers.com
    Feb 02, 1989, page 3 - Times Colonist at Newspapers.com
    Feb 04, 1989, page 3 - Edmonton Journal at Newspapers.com
    Feb 05, 1989, page 8 - The Province at Newspapers.com
    Feb 06, 1989, page 3 - Times Colonist at Newspapers.com
    Feb 08, 1989, page 1 - Times Colonist at Newspapers.com
    May 15, 1993, page 1 - Times Colonist at Newspapers.com
    Jan 27, 1998, page 2 - The Province at Newspapers.com
    Mar 17, 2024, page A4 - The Province at Newspapers.com
    Man convicted of murdering UVic student 37 years ago gets day parole
    ‘Baffling’: B.C. murderer who killed university student granted day parole - BC
    High-risk offender to reside in Vancouver - Vancouver Police Department
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    • 59 min

Customer Reviews

4.6 out of 5
3.4K Ratings

3.4K Ratings

Marsands ,

May 27, 2024

I love how you add your own commentary and phrases when describing certain people, for example “douche bag”, “he’s just a dick”, etc. I laughed out loud today when I heard Matthew say “tits up” as well. Thanks again for an amazing podcast! You guys are great.

Rrebbell ,

Former listener

Used to love the show, used to look forward to the next episode. Scott was getting annoying after a while, Matthew doesn't seem to add much, but my final straw was when they stopped using the term "away game". It was what you called it right from the start, using some Canadian heritage. But the snowflake overpowered the logical, and here we are. Reading the other reviews, I am not alone in my general opinion of the show now.

K Willms ,

Fantastic

Engaging and funny hosts that present true crime in a way that truly respects the victims. Well Done!

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