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The Gray Area with host Sean Illing is a philosophical take on culture, politics, and everything in between. We don’t pretend to have the answers, but we do offer a space for real dialogue. Resist certainty, embrace ambiguity, and get some cool takes on a very hot world. Formerly the Vox Conversations podcast. New episodes drop every Monday.

The Gray Area with Sean Illing Vox

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The Gray Area with host Sean Illing is a philosophical take on culture, politics, and everything in between. We don’t pretend to have the answers, but we do offer a space for real dialogue. Resist certainty, embrace ambiguity, and get some cool takes on a very hot world. Formerly the Vox Conversations podcast. New episodes drop every Monday.

    3,000 years of The Iliad

    3,000 years of The Iliad

    Constance Grady, a culture writer at Vox, is joined by Emily Wilson to discuss her bestselling translations of The Iliad and The Odyssey. They unpack the buzz surrounding them and the significance of The Iliad today. 

    Host: Constance Grady, (@constancegrady), culture writer, Vox
    Guest: Emily Wilson, classics professor and translator of The Iliad and The Odyssey
    References: 
    The Iliad by Homer, translated by Emily Wilson (W.W. Norton, 2023)
    The Odyssey by Homer, translated by Emily Wilson (W.W. Norton, 2018) 

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    • 36 min
    Late-stage liberalism

    Late-stage liberalism

    Sean Illing is joined by John Gray, political philosopher and author of the new book, The New Leviathans: Thoughts After Liberalism. They discuss Thomas Hobbes and the origins of liberalism, the current state of democracy, and the very uncertain future of the global liberal order.
    Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), host, The Gray Area
    Guest: John Gray, author and political philosopher
    References: 
    The New Leviathans: Thoughts After Liberalism by John Gray (Farrar, Straus and Giroux, 2023)
    Leviathan by Thomas Hobbes (1651)
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    • 53 min
    The case against free will

    The case against free will

    Sean Illing speaks with Robert Sapolsky, a professor of biology and neurology at Stanford University and the author of a new book called Determined: A Science of Life Without Free Will. They discuss the concept of free will, whether it actually exists in the way we think it does, and what it means for society if free will is indeed an illusion.
    Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), host, The Gray Area
    Guest: Robert Sapolsky, author, Determined: A Science of Life Without Free Will
    References: 
    Determined: A Science of Life Without Free Will by Robert M. Sapolsky (Penguin Random House, 2023)
    Behave by Robert M. Sapolsky (Penguin Random House, 2018)
    “Robert Sapolsky Doesn’t Believe in Free Will. (But Feel Free to Disagree.)” by Hope Reese (New York Times, October 2023)
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    • 58 min
    A Jew and a Muslim get honest about Israel and Gaza

    A Jew and a Muslim get honest about Israel and Gaza

    Zack Beauchamp, a Vox senior correspondent who writes about democracy and Israel, speaks with Shadi Hamid, a columnist at The Washington Post, research professor of Islamic studies at Fuller Seminary, and author of The Problem of Democracy: America, the Middle East, and the Rise and Fall of an Idea. They discuss the October 7 attack, the subsequent war in Gaza, what it means for Israelis and Palestinians, and how Jews and Muslims in the United States can find common ground amidst their communities’ grief.
    This conversation was recorded on November 2, 2023.
    Host:  Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent at Vox 
    Guest: Shadi Hamid, (@shadihamid), columnist and Editorial Board member at The Washington Post, research professor of Islamic studies at Fuller Seminary, and author of The Problem of Democracy: America, the Middle East, and the Rise and Fall of an Idea. 
    References: 
    “Reducing Hamas’s terrorism to a problem of ‘evil’ is a mistake” by Shadi Hamid (The Washington Post, Oct. 2023)
    The Problem of Democracy: America, the Middle East, and the Rise and Fall of an Idea by Shadi Hamid (Oxford University Press, 2022)
    “Everything you need to know about Israel-Palestine: A comprehensive guide to the basics of the world’s most controversial conflict” by Zack Beauchamp (Vox)

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    • 1 hr
    How to keep panic from attacking

    How to keep panic from attacking

    Sean Illing is joined by Matt Gutman, the chief national correspondent for ABC News, to talk about his new book, No Time to Panic: How I Curbed My Anxiety and Conquered a Lifetime of Panic Attacks. They discuss their personal experiences with panic, the evolutionary roots of it, and how Matt has gained control over his feelings of panic and anxiety.
    Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), host, The Gray Area
    Guest: Matt Gutman (@mattgutmanABC), author, No Time to Panic: How I Curbed My Anxiety and Conquered a Lifetime of Panic Attacks.
    References: 
    No Time to Panic: How I Curbed My Anxiety and Conquered a Lifetime of Panic Attacks by Matt Gutman (Penguin Random House, 2023)
    “The brutal mirror: What the psychedelic drug ayahuasca showed me about my life” by Sean Illing (Vox, February 2018)
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    • 49 min
    We Are What We Watch

    We Are What We Watch

    Guest host Alissa Wilkinson speaks with Walt Hickey about his new book, You Are What You Watch: How Movies and TV Affect Everything. They discuss how entertainment affects the physical and mental states of viewers — from blood coagulation during horror movie screenings to an increase in Dalmatian adoptions after 101 Dalmatians was released in theaters — and why our responses to what we watch are worth celebrating.
    Host: Alissa Wilkinson (@alissamarie), senior culture writer, Vox
    Guest: Walt Hickey, (@walterhickey) author, You Are What You Watch: How Movies and TV Affect Everything
    References: 
    You Are What You Watch: How Movies and TV Affect Everything by Walt Hickey (Workman Publishing Company, 2023)
    “How to Use Math to Crush Your Friends at Monopoly Like You've Never Done Before” by Walt Hickey (Business Insider, Jun. 2013)
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    • 56 min

Customer Reviews

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719 Ratings

Wendy from Alberta ,

Good - here’s how to be better

I appreciate the depth and breadth of Vox interviews. Still listen to Ezra Klein’s new podcast too, and like them both.

I just listened to the latest interview about the new podcast “70 over 70”. With parents in this age range, now facing impending end of life due to serious medical issues, it’s been surprising to me how they do seem afraid to talk about it. This despite the fact that they are people of faith, who have practiced it their whole lives. I’ll be checking out the podcast.

One thing that seems like it’s been on the increasing trend is the use of profanity in podcasts that I listen to, particularly American ones like this one and “Political Gabfest”. I guess it’s meant to impart being grounded and down to earth, “keeping it real” so to speak, or perhaps to emphasize emotions or just being more emphatic in what’s being commented on. But I do find it off putting and it does make me less impressed with whomever is using those choices, as in, “Really, your verbal fluency couldn’t have led you to a better word than that? Or is it a maturity issue?”
Maybe it’s me - I’m a 50 year old Canadian healthcare professional, and perhaps my views don’t reflect the majority of listeners on this. But maybe they do...

grantlsimpson ,

Thank you

For your great work and for keeping us thinking.

goorooo ,

It was a great listen before….

And now it is even better. The new more philosophical approach and a excellent hosting make this show really stand out.

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