Coffee & Flowers: A podcast about The National Christopher Hooton and David Rapson

A warm welcome to Coffee & Flowers, explaining who, what and why.

We begin exploring 'Boxer' with a tiptoe through the album's melancholic first track, exploring the real, the fake, and the big opener that almost wasn't.

We consider the unmagnicifcent lives of adults and the reluctant deal we all make with the world as we leave youth.

We follow the footsteps of two people in a game of cat and mouse with help from Brainy herself, Carin Besser.

We consider the unheavenly travails of white-collar employment in a track that, for Matt, was all about restraint.

This episode we find a tender exploration of humans, their objects, and the connections we form.